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1. 12:08 AM - Rotax 912 - Air Cooling baffles (Gerry Holland)
2. 12:39 AM - Re: Teflon 666 hose (Nigel Charles)
3. 02:35 AM - Re: Teflon 666 hose (KarkelB@aol.com)
4. 06:04 AM - KZ fly in (Graham Singleton)
5. 06:04 AM - VP props (Graham Singleton)
6. 06:45 AM - Re: Variometer instead of ROC (Fred Fillinger)
7. 07:45 AM - Re: Variometer instead of ROC (Peter Zutrauen)
8. 08:23 AM - Re: Teflon 666 hose (Fred Fillinger)
9. 09:01 AM - Off Subject, Recording altimeter watch for $40 (Ronald J. Parigoris)
10. 09:53 AM - Engraved registration plate (bizzarro@easynet.co.uk)
11. 10:06 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 04/29/03 (Paul Atkinson)
12. 10:18 AM - Re: Engraved registration plate (R.C.Harrison)
13. 11:34 AM - Re: Engraved registration plate (bizzarro@easynet.co.uk)
14. 12:56 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (R.C.Harrison)
15. 01:23 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (Ami McFadyean)
16. 02:32 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (Davidghillam@aol.com)
17. 02:48 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (Miles McCallum)
18. 11:51 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (Richard)
19. 11:53 PM - Re: Engraved registration plate (bizzarro@easynet.co.uk)
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| Subject: | Rotax 912 - Air Cooling baffles |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Hi!
I'm in process of fitting an overhauled 912 Engine.
I'm about to order Rotax parts: 975795 & 975796 Air Cooling Baffles but
thought it might be worth posting to this forum just in case someone
has a surplus or unused set. I'm willing to purchase and collect.
Anyone?
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
mailto://gnholland@onetel.com
+44 7808 402404
Europa XS 384
G-FIZY
The greatest enjoyment from existence is living dangerously....
Friedrich Nietzsche
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon 666 hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
For those who are interested in another alternative, I have just completed
replacing all my hoses aft of the firewall with stainless ribbed tubing and
JIC fittings. I have also completed an update on my parallel fuel system
which now dispenses with the mechanical pump. The reason for this was to
eliminate the hoses that cross the engine twice greatly reducing the vapour
lock risk. This allows most of the senders to be aft of the firewall which
also reduces heat transfer. To prevent total electrical power loss to the
pumps, the two pumps have a total of three busbars available for power
source and a crowbar unit prevents the regulator from bringing the whole
system down. To enable the tubing to start from the tank outlets replacement
threaded outlets were supplied by Graham Singleton.
The stainless tube has the following advantages:
1. It should never need replacing. Rubber hoses should be replaced every 5
years.
2. It is much lighter than any other hose or tube.
3. It is easily cut with a tube cutter leaving no swarf.
4. In conjunction with the JIC fittings it is designed to take up to 14bar
pressure which is way above what we need.
5. Unlike rigid steel tube it can be bent easily by hand and is impossible
to kink. This eases initial installation and enables removal of a section of
the system. It also avoids the critical length problems associated with
rigid tube.
The one disadvantage is the JIC fittings cost about 8($12) each so it pays
to design the system with the minimum number of joints.
My parallel system has now been greatly simplified having gone all electric
and with the reduced amount of hoses/tubing I have saved about 4lb in weight
some of which is due to changing to the stainless tube. I estimate that my
system went from being about 3lb heavier than the standard system to 1lb
lighter. The only remaining hose is the short length from the firewall to
the carburettors as this needs to be a little more flexible.
I am just about to test fly the new set-up but don't anticipate any
problems. If there are any I will report back.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon 666 hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com
Hi Paul,
my fuel system is all teflon 666. I almost got a coronary when told the
price of the fittings, but luckily a friend at aeroquip came to the resque.
Hopefully it should last the lifetime of the plane. The aeroquip guys are
doing the joining work for a proper fit. I doubt one can use clips to hold
the hoses. There is not enough "meat" for the clip to give a tight seal.You
will have to use JIC fitting to get a tight seal.
regards Karim.
# 420 Xs mono 914
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 29/04/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Does anyone have any information about the KZ Fly-in at Stauning in June
>this year
>- web site etc?
>The phone number in the PFA mag. is merely an answerphone with airfield normal
>opening times.
>It could be a good one to combine with the Europa fly-in at Stade,
>recently promoted
>on this forum. Just a thought.
>Roger. G-BXTD
Roger
You could try Kai Christensen, he's the Opus designer, (nice looking 3 seat
Long EZ) and a leading light in Denmark,
<flyverkai@christensen.nu>
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 29/04/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>but I have been looking at the Arplast PV50 with the constant
>speed controller. I thought the broader blades of the Arplast may soak up
>the power from the 914 better than the Airmaster
Simon
The PV50 absorbs the power less harshly than the Warp Drive blades. More
inherent damping in the layups I think, they aren't solid graphite like the
latter, they have graphite torsion layups but S glass tension layups. (S
glass is much higher modulus than the E glass normally used for structures
but not as hi as graphite)
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Variometer instead of ROC |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Fillinger <fillinger@ameritech.net>
> Hi All,
>
> We have a vario replacing the VSI in our monowheel. As a vario is just a
> faster, more responsive VSI, you can use it in place of the standard VSI.
> However, you can not compensate it for total energy, as it will no longer be
> a VSI. Also, it will not be as useful for instrument flying as it will be
> more sensitive that you would like. It will jump around a lot since it does
> not have the dampening built in that the typical VSI has.
>
> Happy Building!
>
> John Hurst
> Europa Aircraft
Another option is the RMI uEncoder. The VSI sensitivity, damping, and
display range are programmable to suit. Can tweak thus for IFR also,
but the VSI display is tiny. Ditto for EFIS panels in MS Flight
Simulator, without being able to adjust sensitivity, if one wants to see
what it's like "on the gauges."
Best,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Variometer instead of ROC |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Hi Dave,
Is it possible to set the damping high enough to make is usable as a normal VSI?
How's the flying going? When do we get to see more pics on your website :-)
Cheers,
Pete
A239
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Sent: Wed 4/30/2003 12:42 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Variometer instead of ROC
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 4/29/2003 5:52:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
europajim@juno.com writes:
> There is available a VSI that is called an IVSI. It is very
> sensitive and reacts right now. They are used in military helicopters
> and I used them for years and trained many pilots for instrument flying.
> I have one in my Europa and it works great. I'm sure it is cheeper than
> a variometer for sail planes. Its a good option for thoes who want to
> have it both ways.
>
The Tasman variometer goes for $495 - a pretty good devise.
Dave A227
Mini U2
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon 666 hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Fillinger <fillinger@ameritech.net>
Approved aircraft should last a long time, but for maintenance when
under FAA rules, the recommendation is replacement at 5 years. FAA says
also that in removing Teflon hose during maintenance, do not bend them
as Teflon takes a set. Thus one advantage of automotive fuel hose is
the ease/cost of replacement during maintenance. Removal from barbed
fittings eventually gets tough anyway, so partially slice through the
hose end and toss it in the trash. Fresh rubber, renewed seal at a hose
clamp fitting. Maybe all things considered it kind of all nets out?
Best,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Off Subject, Recording altimeter watch for $40 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Do Not arcive
Hey Guys
For what it is worth, I use one of these to measure height on Models. Not top of
the line, but works OK.
I never dealt with these folk, so let buyer beware:
http://store.yahoo.com/a-1watches/casforfttwin.html
Took one up in a balloon and it more or less follows altimeter, plus or minus 20
feet sounds bout right.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Hi All
I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate to go
inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and has to
contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in big
letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of the
plate?
What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality and
price?
Cheers
Eddie
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 27 Msgs - 04/29/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Atkinson <paul@theatkinsons.demon.co.uk>
On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 07:56 , Europa-List Digest Server wrote:
>> I guess that what was happening was that the
>> skin over the foam was flexing in a downward direction whilst being
>> sanded and
>> the spar wasnt, hence the discrepancy in the curve.
>>
Eddie
It could be that you are pressing too hard. If you use fresh sandpaper
very little downward pressure is needed to do the job, alternatively you
could try using a wider sanding block that will "bridge" the dip.
Paul
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| Subject: | Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Eddie.
There was some messages recently on this subject have a look in the
archives.
Why would you want UNITED KINGDOM when the "G" tells all? Or is this the
latest bullshit out of Europe?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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Subject: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Hi All
I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate to
go
inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and has
to
contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in
big
letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of the
plate?
What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality and
price?
Cheers
Eddie
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| Subject: | Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
I don't know if it is a requirement from Europe or not. It was just what was
written on the PFA paperwork as a requirement. I wouldn't complain too much as
the requirement used to be to have the name and address of the owner engraved
on the plate too!
Who did yours?
Ed
Quoting "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Eddie.
> There was some messages recently on this subject have a look in the
> archives.
> Why would you want UNITED KINGDOM when the "G" tells all? Or is this the
> latest bullshit out of Europe?
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
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> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
>
> Hi All
>
> I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate to
> go
> inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and has
> to
> contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in
> big
> letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
>
> I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of the
> plate?
>
> What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality and
> price?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Eddie
>
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| Subject: | Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Eddie.
I'm afraid I can't remember but probably RAF Leeming! It's back to the
archives ,I'm sorry.
Bob H G-PTAG
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bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
I don't know if it is a requirement from Europe or not. It was just what was
written on the PFA paperwork as a requirement. I wouldn't complain too much
as
the requirement used to be to have the name and address of the owner
engraved
on the plate too!
Who did yours?
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Of more interest is where you are going to mount a plate of that size! Or
did you mean 50mm x 25mm?
A fallback option is to use a centre punch to punch a series of "dots" to
form the letters.
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From: <bizzarro@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
> --> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
>
> Hi All
>
> I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate
to go
> inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and
has to
> contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in
big
> letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
>
> I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of
the
> plate?
>
> What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality
and
> price?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Eddie
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Davidghillam@aol.com
Try "Labels 'n' Signs"
254 Rake Lane, Stroudes Corner, Wallasey, Wirral, CH45 1JR
Tel: 0151 630 2337
www.labelsnsigns.co.uk
They did mine (and other placards, including a matching plastic "Maximum
baggage 80 lbs") for a very modest price.
Incidentally G-SHSH took to the air for the first time about 3 weeks ago in
the very capable hands of David Hunter at Kemble. He was so pleased with it
on the first flight that he took it out of the circuit and only came back
when he began suffering from hypothermia - those faulty NACA vents again!
On the 2nd flight, the U/C tended to drop in turbulence, so minor adjustment
to the lever arm needed. Also required was adjustment to the idle speed. We
had blocked off the NACA vents and he then complained of the heat! There's
no pleasing these test pilots!
I have been in USA for the last couple of weeks, so further progress has been
delayed.
David
G-SHSH
>
>
>
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> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
>
> I don't know if it is a requirement from Europe or not. It was just what
> was
> written on the PFA paperwork as a requirement. I wouldn't complain too much
> as
> the requirement used to be to have the name and address of the owner
> engraved
> on the plate too!
>
> Who did yours?
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum" <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
Bill Bailey, 0208 953 1979 at Elstree aerodrome. Instructed on Tigers during
the war, was instructing up to the end of last year if not this year, and
his engraving is as good as his piloting skills. Done some tricky stuff for
me (superbly) for the Auster, and always seems too cheap...
M
>
> Hi All
>
> I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate
to go
> inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and
has to
> contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in
big
> letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
>
> I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of
the
> plate?
>
> What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality
and
> price?
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Eddie
>
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| Subject: | Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
Following advice on the forum, I just got a local key cutting booth to
engrave my reg. on a spare piece of stainless left over from the firewall.
I pop riveted this inside the engine bay. In addition I got a nice posh
looking aluminium plate made by a trophy maker to attach to the panel inside
the cockpit.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of R.C.Harrison
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Eddie.
I'm afraid I can't remember but probably RAF Leeming! It's back to the
archives ,I'm sorry.
Bob H G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engraved registration plate
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
I don't know if it is a requirement from Europe or not. It was just what was
written on the PFA paperwork as a requirement. I wouldn't complain too much
as
the requirement used to be to have the name and address of the owner
engraved
on the plate too!
Who did yours?
Ed
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| Subject: | Re: Engraved registration plate |
--> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk
Thanks guys, I shall give them all a call.
And yes, I did mean 50 x25mm, I am loosing the plot!!
Cheers
Ed
Quoting Miles McCallum <milesm@avnet.co.uk>:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum" <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
>
> Bill Bailey, 0208 953 1979 at Elstree aerodrome. Instructed on Tigers during
> the war, was instructing up to the end of last year if not this year, and
> his engraving is as good as his piloting skills. Done some tricky stuff for
> me (superbly) for the Auster, and always seems too cheap...
>
> M
>
>
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > I looking for a recommendation of a company to do our registration plate
> to go
> > inside the cockpit. The one that has to be made from stainless steel and
> has to
> > contain the registration letters and state of registration, ie "G-SELF" in
> big
> > letters and "United Kingdom" in small letters.
> >
> > I figured that we should make it 500x250mm. Any thoughts on the size of
> the
> > plate?
> >
> > What companies have you guys used. Have you have been happy with quality
> and
> > price?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Eddie
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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