---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/05/03: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:21 AM - europa club seminar (Rowland & Wilma Carson) 2. 12:58 AM - Re: Navaid Auto Pilot Advice (Nigel Charles) 3. 12:58 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 05/03/03 (Nigel Charles) 4. 01:44 AM - Re: Flairing Tool Advice (John Cliff) 5. 09:18 AM - Re: Rocky Mountain Instruments (Dale Hetrick) 6. 09:19 AM - Re: Navaid Auto Pilot Advice (Alan) 7. 12:58 PM - Outrigger wheels (Terry Seaver) 8. 01:21 PM - Re: Outrigger wheels (Peter Zutrauen) 9. 02:05 PM - Refused Europa Factory messages (Fergus Kyle) 10. 02:15 PM - Spring Connector Clips... (Fergus Kyle) 11. 03:12 PM - Re: Outrigger wheels (KarkelB@aol.com) 12. 04:14 PM - Re: Refused Europa Factory messages (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) 13. 05:16 PM - Re: Spring Connector Clips... (Kevin Klinefelter) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:09 AM PST US From: Rowland & Wilma Carson Subject: Europa-List: europa club seminar --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland & Wilma Carson I've rather late in the day decided I can get to the Europa Club seminar at Frimley in a fortnight, but haven't yet booked a room. I gather all the rooms have at least 2 beds - would anyone already booked care to reduce their accomodation costs by sharing their room with me? If I don't hear anything in a couple of days I'll book one for myself, but just thought someone might be happy to combine forces to our mutual advantage. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary | Europa 435 G-ROWI (540 hours building) PFA #16532 EAA #168386 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:34 AM PST US From: "Nigel Charles" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Navaid Auto Pilot Advice --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" >Before I glue in the Cock-pit Module I'd like to fit the leaver arm for the Navaid Auto Pilot. Has any one retro-fitted this after finishing the torque tube and could advise how they made the bracket to clamp to it. I'm following Mod 10507 from the Europa Club.< Having written this mod I thought I had better offer some input. Assuming you are happy to buy an extra CS03 an easy way to retrofit the mod is to cut it in half longitudinally, attach the arm to it and then rivet and Redux the assembly to the torque tube. There is plenty of strength in the CS03 for this and minimises fabrication. Some other builder might be glad of the remaining half of the CS03 for his/her build. Regards Nigel Charles Europa Club Modifications Rep ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:34 AM PST US From: "Nigel Charles" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 05/03/03 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles" >Funny that.... I have had the same experience recently. Ron blamed it on my email address. His spam blocker was picking "demon" as something that should be rejected. Were yours being rejected as spam ? Ron has generally responded to my faxes though. I think he is due for another one :-)< Thanks Paul. Yes my emails are being blocked by a spam blocker as well. I am still awaiting a reply to my fax. Probably best to ring. Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:33 AM PST US From: "John Cliff" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flairing Tool Advice --> Europa-List message posted by: "John Cliff" I endorse what TonyK said about using a tube cutter. AC43.13-1B gives the tightening torques for AN-818 nuts on alloy tubing as 50 to 65 pound inches for the -4 size (1/4" tube) and 110 to 130 pound inches for the -6 size (3/8" tube) . Not having a low-range torque wrench I resorted to a spring balance pulling on the free end of the spanner. The figures for -6, at least, turned out to be a firm but not hard pull on the length of spanner normally encountered for this size of hexagon. Sealing compound is not needed, though make sure the flare is clean and burr-free both inside and outside and the fittings are clean. The only tip I would pass on (except for remembering to slide the nut and sleeve onto the tube before you make the flare ..... :-) ) is, as it says on the tool, to clean and oil the flaring roller every time before you use it. Then the roller will slide over the tube without picking up. The oil gets everywhere, but that is better than a scuffed flare. John Cliff #0259 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:14 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rocky Mountain Instruments From: Dale Hetrick --> Europa-List message posted by: Dale Hetrick Nigel, I just talked with Ron Mower who said that his Email address has not changed. I just pulled up his web page RONMOW@RKYMTN.com and note that another Email address is Webmaster@RKYMTN.com. If all else fails, let me know your question(s) and I'll contact him for you. Regards, Dale ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:52 AM PST US From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Navaid Auto Pilot Advice --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan" Thank you all your comments, ideas and photos, I know where I'm going now. Alan #303 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:03 PM PST US From: Terry Seaver Subject: Europa-List: Outrigger wheels --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver Does anyone have a recommendation for outrigger wheels, something a little higher quality than those included in the kit? Terry Seaver A135 / N135TD ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:45 PM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Outrigger wheels From: "Peter Zutrauen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" LOL .... yip, "Dennis Vories, P.E" sure does.... but he won't tell anyone. :-) From his article at: http://www.europa-usa.com/enhancements.htm To quote: "Items marked with " ** " are my proprietary designs and require additional documentation including drawings, parts lists, sources of supply, instructions, etc. Such items may be adopted by Europa Aircraft as a part of the kit or alternatively may be made available to builders as a second source detailed documentation and product. 2. **Outrigger and tail wheels have been changed to gray compound sealed ball bearing wheels of the same size as original wheels. This has eliminated excessive bearing wear from contamination, need for repack and slinging of grease. Also gone is the annoying outrigger resonance in wing and tail wheel echo in fuselage during taxi. The elimination of wheel rattle heard by observers during taxi greatly improves the perception of a quality aircraft." Cheers, Pete A239 -----Original Message----- From: Terry Seaver [mailto:terrys@cisco.com] Subject: Europa-List: Outrigger wheels --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver Does anyone have a recommendation for outrigger wheels, something a little higher quality than those included in the kit? Terry Seaver A135 / N135TD ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:57 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Refused Europa Factory messages --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Cheers, Today I tried to email Neville and it was refused, so I directed same to Andy, and got the same reaction: "This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: Reason: (BHST) Unknown host/domain name in "andy@europa-aircraft.com" Anybody else had this reply? Hope it's not a sober event........ Ferg A064 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:15:22 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Spring Connector Clips... --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" While I'm trying to make contact with the chaps at Europa (see previous email), does anyone know what cane safely replace the "rings" which came with the Compression springs at the back of the rudder cables? They are on page 220 of ACS 2002-2003 as P/N 06-15400 and extend the cable length by about 7/8". I am looking for a smaller replacement of about 3/8 - 1/2" extension.......... Cheers, Ferg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:00 PM PST US From: KarkelB@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Outrigger wheels --> Europa-List message posted by: KarkelB@aol.com ......you can say that again.!!! Karim. # 420 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:14:36 PM PST US From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Subject: Re: Europa-List: Refused Europa Factory messages 05/05/2003 07:14:14 PM --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu This is most likely a glitch in your name server. Ira To: "EUROPALIST" cc: bcc: Subject: Europa-List: Refused Europa Factory messages "Fergus Kyle" Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 05/05/2003 05:07 PM AST --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Cheers, Today I tried to email Neville and it was refused, so I directed same to Andy, and got the same reaction: "This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server.The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: Reason: (BHST) Unknown host/domain name in "andy@europa-aircraft.com" Anybody else had this reply? Hope it's not a sober event........ Ferg A064 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:52 PM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Spring Connector Clips... --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" I bought a couple AN115-21 cable shackles. But they are about 3/4" long. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle Subject: Europa-List: Spring Connector Clips... --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" While I'm trying to make contact with the chaps at Europa (see previous email), does anyone know what cane safely replace the "rings" which came with the Compression springs at the back of the rudder cables? They are on page 220 of ACS 2002-2003 as P/N 06-15400 and extend the cable length by about 7/8". I am looking for a smaller replacement of about 3/8 - 1/2" extension.......... Cheers, Ferg