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     1. 08:57 AM - Re: Outrigger mod (craig ellison)
     2. 09:44 AM - Re: Static Charges and how to avoid them (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     3. 12:04 PM - Microair transponder (Kevin Taylor)
     4. 02:29 PM - Re: Microair transponder (Tim Ward)
     5. 02:44 PM - bonding top wing panel (Mike)
     6. 03:00 PM - Re: Spar Pins (DvdPar@aol.com)
     7. 03:52 PM - Re: Spar Pins (Kevin Klinefelter)
     8. 04:30 PM - Re: Spar Pins (DvdPar@aol.com)
     9. 06:33 PM - Re: Static Charges and how to avoid them (Fred Fillinger)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Outrigger mod | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "craig ellison" <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
      
      Hi Ferg,
      
      I would be interested in the outrigger pivot mod.  Please send me necessary
      info and cost.
      
      thanks
      
      craig ellison
      A205
      Silverton, OR
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      Subject: Europa-List: Outrigger mod
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      >
      > Hi,
      >             I sent out a message advising that I had produced the two
      tubes
      > necessary for the recommended oturigger pivot mod. Of the several
      > correspondents contacted, only one replied - and he was surprised I was
      > still at it. The mod involves beefing up the pivot to reduce inevitable
      > 'play' and Nigel Charles provided scarce tubing bits because the
      acquisition
      > involved considerably more minimal tubing than needed by one person.
      >             I have done the same (for those of North American persuasion)
      as
      > far as the tubing is concerned. The other mod parts are more easily
      acquired
      > locally - and the cost is negligible.
      >             So this is general message to request those who were
      interested
      > to confirm I can send out the kits.
      > Cheers,
      > ferg
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Static Charges and how to avoid them | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
      
      So am I to conclude that there should be two separate electrical bonds in the 
      plane? One for all the regular things that need electrons to operate (lights, 
      engine, instruments, etc.) and a separate one that bonds the various 
      nonoperating parts of the fueling systems to a single point that one can attach
      a ramp 
      ground wire to and the container that the fuel is presently in when 
      refueling.
      
      For those people that drive up to a fuel pump at a gas station and insert a 
      fuel nozzle to fill the tank, anyone have any special safety tips for this 
      procedure?
      
      Mike Duane A207
      Redding, California
      XS Trigear
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Microair transponder | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
      
      Tried fitting a microair transponder to my plane but appear to have problem. 2
      transponders both new both do the same.
      
      All the segments are black on the display and if you look from the side you can
      just see the number underneath. But it just isn't useable.
      
      I'm not using alt encoder etc so have connected just the 2 live pins and 2 ground
      pins.
      
      And Aerial of course
      
      Regards
      
      Kev T
      
      Anyone any ideas
      
      
      ---
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Microair transponder | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
      
      Kevin,
      Use the backlight by pressing the ON button lightly once for the first level of
      backlighting, and twice for the second level of backlighting.
      In the instructions.
      Cheers,
      Tim
      
      Kevin Taylor wrote:
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Taylor" <kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
      >
      > Tried fitting a microair transponder to my plane but appear to have problem.
      2 transponders both new both do the same.
      >
      > All the segments are black on the display and if you look from the side you can
      just see the number underneath. But it just isn't useable.
      >
      > I'm not using alt encoder etc so have connected just the 2 live pins and 2 ground
      pins.
      >
      > And Aerial of course
      >
      > Regards
      >
      > Kev T
      >
      > Anyone any ideas
      >
      > ---
      >
      
      --
      Timothy P Ward
      12 Waiwetu Street,
      Fendalton,
      Christchurch,
      NEW ZEALAND
      
      Ph. 0064 3 3515166
      email  ward.t@xtra.co.nz
      Mobile 025 2649325
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | bonding top wing panel | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Does everybody have 2x12ft sections of 1inch section steel tube?
      If not then how did you weight the panel for the bonding process?
      Thanks
      Mike Gamble
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
      
      Thanks kevin, second look and you are correct, but still have a second 
      washer?
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
      
      Dave, figure 10 on page 27-12 shows both washers location. Step 14 tells how
      the second one goes in.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DvdPar@aol.com
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar Pins
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
      
      Thanks kevin, second look and you are correct, but still have a second
      washer?
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
      
      Kevin, thanks I,ve read it properly now. 
      Dave
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Static Charges and how to avoid them | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Fillinger <fillinger@ameritech.net>
      
      DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
       > So am I to conclude that there should be two separate electrical bonds
       > in the plane? One for all the regular things that need electrons to
       > operate (lights, engine, instruments, etc.) and a separate one that
       > bonds the various nonoperating parts of the fueling systems to a
       > single point that one can attach a ramp ground wire to and the
       > container that the fuel is presently in when refueling.
      
      There is no need for the A/C's electrical system ground be involved, but 
      a practical consideration is that airport fueling personnel will attach 
      the bonding wire to the exhaust pipe. One need minimally only bond the 
      metal filler opening, so I suppose one could placard the filler to that 
      effect and provide a means of attaching the clip.
      
      If by "bonding the various nonoperating parts of the fueling system" 
      means other than the filler cap, then I believe that's more hazardous. 
      What will happen is that any static accumulating in the vicinity of 
      those metal parts will be sent to the filler cap, unnecessarily raising 
      its voltage potential.  If the filler cap is also earthed in some way, 
      then there's no hazard.  Even one's body can drain off the charge if the 
      conditions are right.  However, it's best to leave any static deep 
      inside the system, and this is the reason that filling an ungrounded 
      metal can is more hazardous than a plastic container, where static 
      charges tend to remain where they accumulate.
      
      Regards,
      Fred F.
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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