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1. 12:20 AM - Re: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
2. 01:08 AM - Re: First flight of Europa mono G-EORJ (Andy Draper)
3. 06:27 AM - Re: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? (Steve Hagar)
4. 08:20 AM - Re: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? (Jim McAvoy)
5. 09:25 AM - Re: Stab pin hole caps (DvdPar@aol.com)
6. 09:53 AM - Re: Stab pin hole caps (Rob Housman)
7. 10:21 AM - Motorglider Insurance (Ronald J. Parigoris)
8. 10:29 AM - Airspeed Calibration (Ronald J. Parigoris)
9. 01:23 PM - Re: Airspeed Calibration (Chuck Popenoe)
10. 02:29 PM - Re: Stab pin hole caps (DvdPar@aol.com)
11. 03:20 PM - Re: Stab pin hole caps (kbcarpenter@comcast.net)
12. 03:55 PM - Door latch (Graham Singleton)
13. 05:23 PM - Re: Motorglider Insurance (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
14. 05:31 PM - Re: Araldite 420 - (how much for cockpit module) (Darren Turner)
15. 05:36 PM - Re: Stab pin hole caps (Robert Berube)
16. 07:30 PM - Re: Door latch (J R \(Bob\) Gowing)
17. 10:22 PM - Re: Motorglider Insurance (DJA727@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Look up Ciba.
If you are lucky Qantas will use it and Ciba will be able to supply it
in single packs.
Ciba NZ will supply it providing I'm willing to buy 10 packs at a time
because that's how Air NZ buy it.
I would add that if it's not being used in a mission critical
application it sticks just as well 4 years after expiry date.
Tony
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Turner
Cc:=09
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier?
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Darren Turner"
<Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
Hi All,
Our Araldite 420 has gone out of date.
Would like to buy some more locally to save on freight but cant find a
supplier in Australia.
Anyone got any ideas?
Many Thanks,
Darren Turner
Europa #351 Mono
Aeroclub of Southern Tasmania Syndicate
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| Subject: | Re: First flight of Europa mono G-EORJ |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
CONGRATULATIONS Philip on getting your Europa into the air. I'm sure that you'll
have many great experiences with the aircraft. Take good care, especially
in the early hours of test flying and, most of all, have fun. Hope to see you
at Kemble.
Regards
Andy Draper
On behalf of us all at Europa
I am very pleased to announce the first flight today 28 th. of Europa mono
G-EORJ , at 13.11 local at Tatenhill in the safe hands of John Price,
behaving as it should and with no adjustments required . what a feeling
after six years in the making , now the fun begins.
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| Subject: | Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Darren:
Make a sample lap joint coupon and do a pull test on it till failure. If
the fiberglass breaks before the adhesive joint the material should still
be serviceable, especially if it is stored in a cool dry place. Just make
sure you build up enough layers of fiberglass to represent what you are
bonding to. Then just use what you have.
Steve Hagar
A143 Mesa, AZ
> [Original Message]
> From: Darren Turner <Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 5/28/03 11:26:57 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier?
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> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Darren Turner"
<Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
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> Hi All,
>
> Our Araldite 420 has gone out of date.
> Would like to buy some more locally to save on freight but cant find a
> supplier in Australia.
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Darren Turner
>
> Europa #351 Mono
> Aeroclub of Southern Tasmania Syndicate
>
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>
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim McAvoy" <jimca@ozemail.com.au>
Darren,
The Australian supplier is MEURY p/l in Melbourne.
Call Felix Wenzel on 03 9560 7744 or Sydney on 02 9676 8699
Good luck
Jim McAvoy
Europa Kit Planes Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Turner" <Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420 - Australian Supplier?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Darren Turner"
<Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Our Araldite 420 has gone out of date.
> Would like to buy some more locally to save on freight but cant find a
> supplier in Australia.
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Darren Turner
>
> Europa #351 Mono
> Aeroclub of Southern Tasmania Syndicate
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stab pin hole caps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
whats the email address for flight crafters?
Thanks Dave Park
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| Subject: | Stab pin hole caps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
http://www.geocities.com/flightcrafters/ shows Bberube@Tampabay.rr.com or
RLaviation@aol.com
Best regards,
Rob Housman
A070
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DvdPar@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stab pin hole caps
--> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
whats the email address for flight crafters?
Thanks Dave Park
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| Subject: | Motorglider Insurance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
I was talking to Falcon Ins (EAA) today, about builders risk insurance and
other insurance.
They will accomodate builders risk, and first flight provided you follow the
EAA Flight Advisory Program.
They do not offer Glider, or Motor Glider insurance.
Who offers Motor Glider insurance in the States (NY)?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Airspeed Calibration |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
I was reading an article on airspeed today.
It talks about most likely having to calibrate your pitot static system, and
calibrate your airspeed indicator.
I understand, why you may need to do this.
What do you physical change/do to pitot static system and or airspeed
indicator?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Airspeed Calibration |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Chuck Popenoe" <cpops@verizon.net>
Hi Ron-
I calibrate the ASI on my Avid Flyer by placing an O-ring on the static
probe. Moving the O-ring aft of the static port causes the indicated
airspeed to increase, and if forward of the static port the indicated
airspeed will decrease. A few runs in both directions over a measured or
known course will converge on the best position for the O-ring. Of course,
nowadays with GPS it's a bit easier!
Pops
A036
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ronald J.
Parigoris
Subject: Europa-List: Airspeed Calibration
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
--> <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
I was reading an article on airspeed today.
It talks about most likely having to calibrate your pitot static system, and
calibrate your airspeed indicator.
I understand, why you may need to do this.
What do you physical change/do to pitot static system and or airspeed
indicator?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Stab pin hole caps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
In a message dated 29/05/2003 17:54:34 GMT Standard Time,
RobH@hyperion-ef.com writes:
>
> Best regards,
Thanks Rob,
Regards Dave Park Manchester UK
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| Subject: | Re: Stab pin hole caps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: kbcarpenter@comcast.net
Try :
RLaviation@aol.com
E-mail Address(es):
RLaviation@aol.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <DvdPar@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stab pin hole caps
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
>
> whats the email address for flight crafters?
> Thanks Dave Park
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
23:56 28/05/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Would it not be much easyer to just forget about this egg thing - and other
>elaborate locking system - and just glue on strips of carbon fibre to the
>underside of the lower door sill to stiffen this erea? Have seen it on the
>net, but can't recall who did it. I for one intend to try this.
Put a blob of modelling clay on the door sill, where you plan to put the
third shoot bolt, then close the door and reveal the space between door and
sill.
Now sketch a suitable latch, which can be a wedge of nylon riveted to the
sill and a similar latching wedge riveted to the door so that they can
latch (relying on the flex in the door). You don't need to drill the door
frame or the door (except for the rivets) so there will be no strength
compromisation.
I saw this neat idea on Mal McLure's very nice Europa just north of Sydney.
I can confirm that the compressive strength of the fuselage is worth having
in a crash situation. It saved me from a severely broken back.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Motorglider Insurance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
In a message dated 5/29/2003 1:22:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes:
> Who offers Motor Glider insurance in the States (NY)?
>
Try Costello Insurance Associates in Tempe, AZ. 800-528-6483 Sue Fassett is
who I usually deal with. They insure my glider and towplane. It stands to
reason they would do a motor glider.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245
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| Subject: | Re: Araldite 420 - (how much for cockpit module) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Darren Turner" <Darren.Turner@utas.edu.au>
Thanks to those who pointed me to Australian suppliers, I am following up
these leads.
A further question if I may.
Some people commented that the out of Araldite 420 was fine to use if it was
non-structural or if when tested it seems to stick fine. Well our 420
expired last June so it is not that far out of date. It looks okay and
seems to glue well and we have tested it on aluminium and fibreglass. I am
looking for some more as we are close to bonding in the cockpit module which
I guess you could call a structural joint. Also I am not sure we have
enough. It talks about 800 grams in the manual, I think we have about 700
grams.
Can people tell me how much they needed?
And give me their opinion on using slightly out of date 420 on the cockpit
module bond?
Many thanks,
Darren Turner
Europa #351 Mono
Aeroclub of Southern Tasmania Syndicate
> Hi All,
>
> Our Araldite 420 has gone out of date.
> Would like to buy some more locally to save on freight but cant find a
> supplier in Australia.
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> Many Thanks,
> Darren Turner
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| Subject: | Re: Stab pin hole caps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
Dave,
You can reach Flight Crafters at bberube@tampabay.rr.com
Regards,
Bob Berube
----- Original Message -----
From: <DvdPar@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stab pin hole caps
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DvdPar@aol.com
>
> whats the email address for flight crafters?
> Thanks Dave Park
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "J R \(Bob\) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
Graham S
Can you explain a little further please? Do the layers of nylon fit one on
top of the other to fill the crack between door and sill or side by side and
somehow hook to gether please; or do I have it all topsy turvy?
J R (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Door latch
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>
> 23:56 28/05/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >Would it not be much easyer to just forget about this egg thing - and
other
> >elaborate locking system - and just glue on strips of carbon fibre to the
> >underside of the lower door sill to stiffen this erea? Have seen it on
the
> >net, but can't recall who did it. I for one intend to try this.
>
> Put a blob of modelling clay on the door sill, where you plan to put the
> third shoot bolt, then close the door and reveal the space between door
and
> sill.
> Now sketch a suitable latch, which can be a wedge of nylon riveted to the
> sill and a similar latching wedge riveted to the door so that they can
> latch (relying on the flex in the door). You don't need to drill the door
> frame or the door (except for the rivets) so there will be no strength
> compromisation.
> I saw this neat idea on Mal McLure's very nice Europa just north of
Sydney.
> I can confirm that the compressive strength of the fuselage is worth
having
> in a crash situation. It saved me from a severely broken back.
> Graham
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Motorglider Insurance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 5/29/2003 10:22:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us writes:
> I was talking to Falcon Ins (EAA) today, about builders risk insurance and
> other insurance.
>
> They will accomodate builders risk, and first flight provided you follow the
> EAA Flight Advisory Program.
>
> They do not offer Glider, or Motor Glider insurance.
>
> Who offers Motor Glider insurance in the States (NY)?
>
I joined SSA (Soaring Society of America) and got my liability insurance
through Costello. I had very low time in the airplane at the time I started the
insurance (basically zero!) but now have about 60 hours.
Dave
A227
Mini U2
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