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1. 12:49 AM - Pilot Conversations (Jeremy Davey)
2. 12:54 AM - Re: Stickey tailpalne (Jeremy Davey)
3. 03:30 AM - Brit Building a Europa in France (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
4. 03:38 AM - Re: Pilot Conversations (Nigel Graham)
5. 07:55 AM - Negative billing (Fergus Kyle)
6. 08:20 AM - Re: Stickey tailpalne (ira.rampil@sunysb.edu)
7. 04:36 PM - Re: Re: Re: Subaru Engine Mount design (tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au)
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| Subject: | Pilot Conversations |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
The following aren't _exactly_ Europa-related, but I couldn't resist passing
them on :-)
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
It's good to know that some pilots have a sense of humour. Here are some
conversations that airline passengers normally don't hear. The following are
actual exchanges between airline pilots and control towers from around the
world:
While taxiing at London Gatwick, the crew of a US Air flight departing for
Ft. Lauderdale made a wrong turn and came nose to nose with a United 767.
An irate female ground controller lashed out at the US Air crew, screaming:
"US Air 2771, where the hell are you going? I told you to turn right onto
Charlie taxiway! You turned right on Delta! Stop right there. I know it's
difficult for you to tell the difference between Cs and Ds, but get it
right!" Continuing her tirade to the embarrassed crew, she was now shouting
hysterically: "God, you've screwed everything up! It'll take forever to sort
this out! You stay right there and don't move till I tell you to! You can
expect progressive taxi instructions in about half an hour and I want you to
go exactly where I tell you, when I tell you, and how I tell you! You got
that, US Air 2771?"
"Yes ma'am," the humbled crew responded. Naturally the ground control
frequency went terribly silent after the verbal bashing of US Air 2771.
Nobody wanted to engage the irate ground controller in her current state.
Tension in every cockpit at LGW was running high.
Then an unknown pilot broke the silence and asked: "Wasn't I married to you
once?"
_________________
A DC-10 had an exceedingly long rollout after landing with his approach
speed a little high.
San Jose Tower: "American 751 heavy, turn right at the end of the runway, if
able. If not able, take the Guadalupe exit off Highway 101, make a right at
the lights and return to the airport."
***********************************
Unknown aircraft: "I'm f...ing bored!"
Air Traffic Control: "Last aircraft transmitting, identify yourself
immediately!"
Unknown aircraft: "I said I was f...ing bored, not f...ing stupid!"
***********************************
Tower: "Eastern 702, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7"
Eastern 702: "Tower, Eastern 702 switching to Departure. By the way, after
we lifted off we saw some kind of dead animal on the far end of the runway."
Tower: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, contact Departure on 124.7.
Did you copy that report from Eastern 702?"
Continental 635: "Continental 635, cleared for takeoff, roger; and yes, we
copied Eastern and have already notified our caterers"
***********************************
The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a
short-tempered lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking
location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was
with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following
exchange; between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call
sign "Speedbird 206":
Speedbird 206: "Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway."
Ground: "Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven.";
The BA747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop.
Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?"
Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now."
Ground (with arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to
Frankfurt before?"
Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944 but it was dark and I didn't
stop."
**********************************
A PanAm 727 flight engineer waiting for start clearance in Munich Overheard
the following:
Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground
(in English): "If you want an answer you must speak English." Lufthansa (in
English): "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany. Why must I
speak English?" Unknown voice (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you
lost the bloody war!"
_____
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| Subject: | Stickey tailpalne |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Ron,
Please see the previous thread about a month ago on this topic! And yes, I
believe your kit was done with Aeropoxy - when I saw it in Florida it did
look like one of the US-produced ones.
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ronald J.
Parigoris
Subject: Europa-List: Stickey tailpalne
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Inspecting my accelerated tailplanes, one of them has a stickeyness to it. i
think it was done with aeropoxy.
How can you remove this? Denatured alcohol? acetone/ sanding (with what
grit?)?
oTHER?
Thanks
Ron Parigoris
A-265
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| Subject: | Brit Building a Europa in France |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
Hi All,
I live in Switzerland (Monday - Friday anyway) and have just bought a
farmhouse 3 hours away in the Vosges (NE France) which, purely
coincidentally of course, has a large hayloft that would be ideal for
building a Europa... :)
So, realistically, how difficult is it going to be for a Brit with O
Level French to build a Europa to French standards mainly at the
week-end?
I'd be very pleased to receive comments from anyone with experience of
building in France. I am not so concerned about the language as other
logistic issues such as inspections and so on.
Also, I would really appreciate any advice about setting up my workshop
as I have pretty much a blank sheet to work on at the moment. I have
gathered some information from the Build Guide but all suggestions
would be very welcome.
Finally, any Europa builders in the vacinity of Xertigny 88220 (or
Zurich for that matter) who would care to show me how it's done over a
beer or bottle of red, please get in touch.
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Ian MacPhee
ianmacphee@yahoo.co.uk
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| Subject: | Re: Pilot Conversations |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btclick.com>
....and in a similar vein:
Airport unknown - but anecdote runs:
BA 747 joining a busy taxiway for departure is asked by the controller
to hold for a previously delayed Virgin Atlantic aircraft.
The lady controller requests (without considering her words):
"Speedbird blah blah blah........give way to the Virgin with a tight
slot"
Nigel ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Pilot Conversations
It's good to know that some pilots have a sense of
humour...............................
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| Subject: | Negative billing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Jeremy,
I know you enjoy comedy and wish to share it with us, but after
50-odd years of flying, I cannot fail to note the trend in these "urban
myths". The "effing"-word joke was purported to have arisen in the night
circuit of training B-25 pilots in postwar RCAF station Winnipeg (say,
1948).
You will note that most of these acorns point out the error of
aviators and the crisp beartrap minds of TRAFFIC controllers (God controls
the air). Too busy with life to point out the foibles of others, aviators
see more and more of these 'humorous' events as tools to advance the roles
of people who are on the periphery of aviation and who have access to the
inner workings of others. For instance when I left the airlines, the book
showed 33 different methods of docking an airliner to what is variously
described as "Jetways, airdocks" and so forth. Every one of these ingenious
devices is described as "Standard". Hello?
Is it any wonder outsiders revel at the sound of a confused flyer?
One of my early bosses took the mike and said, "Why don't you
come up here and wrestle this monster onto the gray wiggly thing and I'll
come down there and yell into the grill for you?" You could hear buttons
clicking all the way to the horizon.
Cheers, Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Stickey tailpalne |
06/13/2003 11:20:30 AM,
Serialize complete at 06/13/2003 11:20:30 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: ira.rampil@sunysb.edu
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris"
<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Inspecting my accelerated tailplanes, one of them has a stickeyness to it.
i
think it was done with aeropoxy.
How can you remove this? Denatured alcohol? acetone/ sanding (with what
grit?)?
oTHER?
Thanks
Ron Parigoris
A-265
Ron,
I would suggest that you call the tailplane contractor directly and
preserve the
chain of responsibility. I think they are easily accessible and will give
you
sound advice.
Ira, N224XS in paint shop :-)
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| Subject: | Re: Subaru Engine Mount design |
--> Europa-List message posted by: tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au
Rowland,
The conversion figures are called "the denial system". I started work at 150 lbs,
and it is near there that I still mentally perceive myself, even though I am onto
my
third larger belt hole. You mustnt have to worry about these weight issues,
otherwise you might have gleaned my "deceit". :-)
Reg
Tony Renshaw
> Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil@clara.net> wrote:
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> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland & Wilma Carson
> <rowil@clara.net>
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> At 10:50 +1000 on 12-06-03, tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au wrote:
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> >I am 80
> >kg/175cm (160 lb/5'9"), I could probably go OK in a Subaru powered
> a/c.
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> Tony - that's an interesting conversion scale you're using!
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> I make 160 lb to be 72.58kg (80kg is 176.37 lb). Just make sure the
> engine people aren't using tricky conversions too!
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> regards
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> Rowland
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