Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:23 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for rudder cables (Brian Davies)
2. 01:46 AM - Re: Postcuring Aussie Style (Bill & Sue Sisley)
3. 05:48 AM - Re: Mods needed for glider wings? (J R \(Bob\) Gowing)
4. 06:09 AM - Re: Pilot Conversations (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
5. 06:16 AM - Re: Batteries (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
6. 07:21 AM - Re: Turnbuckles for rudder cables (Jeff Roberts)
7. 01:35 PM - Re: UK Fly-in at Lydeway Strip, Wiltshire (J. R. Jones)
8. 05:21 PM - Re: UK Fly-in at Lydeway Strip, Wiltshire (Dale Hetrick)
9. 06:34 PM - Fly-in at Marysville (MYV) Northern California (Dean Wiegand)
10. 09:39 PM - Re: Fly-in at Marysville (MYV) Northern California (DJA727@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for rudder cables |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
There is an error in the part numbers quoted in my manual (XS Mono issue 2
page 22-5 , dated 1 October 1999) for the aerospace standard turnbuckle
parts..
The cable eye end with right hand thread should be MS21255-3RS- not as
quoted in the manual MS21251-3RS.
Brian Davies kit 454.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Turnbuckles for rudder cables
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
>
> I would like to hear anyone thoughts on using a turnbuckles on the rudder
> cables and which ones have worked best. I have been told the ones with the
> clips are easy. Can anyone tell me which one should be ordered as they are
> measured in strength in pounds? A part number for Wicks or ACS would be
> nice. Has anyone had success with the part you make in the manual?
> Jeff Roberts
> Nashville,
> A258
> Tri gear
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Postcuring Aussie Style |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
I did the same. Worked a treat in my garage roof.
Sue and Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Postcuring Aussie Style
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> Well I have this theory that the roof of my house will be an excellent
post
> curing oven in summer. The important aspects of postcuring is the ramping
> up and down of the temperature, and if it really important to some to know
> why, well I will hunt my e-mails to acknowledge. Nevertheless, I believe
it
> is the ramping down that is the most important. So, back to the roof. Well
> I know the day heats up at a gradual rate, and therfore the roof, and the
> ramp down is very controlled, better than any workshop homemade oven I
> would be as bold as to say. My smaller components are going up there next
> summer, supported on broomstick for torque tube, and wire through
> flap/aileron hinge. A digital thermometer with high and low memory will
> validate what time of the season is most suitable. Penny for my thoughts.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
>
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<keith@europa-aircraft.com>,
<andy@europa-aircraft.com>
| Subject: | Re: Mods needed for glider wings? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "J R \(Bob\) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
Neville at Europa
If indeed Neville has "The Cunning Plan" for standardising the fitting of
wing guides and bushings such that both glider wings and ordinary wings
might be interchangeable (and the value of our ships thus increased) then:-
1, We all want to know the details!
2. All of us who have not yet fitted our wings ought to have access to the
tools for loan or hire!
Our factory representative in Australia, Jim McAvoy, ought to have a set to
loan to as yet wingless Aussies who could then return them for others to use
and similar arrangements made in the UK and US.
Can we hear something more about it very soon please Europa?
J R (Bob) Gowing, Kit 327 in Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mods needed for glider wings?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre"
<Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Hi All,
> With regards to retro fitting the Motor Glider Wings to an existing
Classic or XS fuselage, we do indeed have a cunning plan!
> The Manual has the full description and the required drilling
guides/bushes are supplied in the Kit. This operation is actually easier
than the original procedure described in the Classic Manual for the
installation of the lift/drag pins.
> I will be at Kemble and Oshkosh, and will be glad to run through the
operation to anyone willing to buy me a pint!
> Cheers,
> Nev.
>
> >>> "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> 05/28/03 04:13am >>>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Bob,
>
> I did ask Neville at the factory the same question and they have a method
> for doing this for the earlier Europa's that did not have pre drilled
holes.
> I can't recollect the exact details but the approach was pretty cunning.
If
> its something you want to pursue send him an email.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J R (Bob) Gowing" <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mods needed for glider wings?
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "J R \(Bob\) Gowing"
> <gowingjr@acr.net.au>
> >
> > Thank you Tony,
> > It has had me intrigued but have not seen any explanation published in
> > Europa Aricraft News where one would expect to see such informantion; or
> > anywhere else.
> >
> > Now I can permanently forget glider wings!
> >
> > J R (Bob) Gowing, Kit 327 in Oz
> > do not archive
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mods needed for glider wings?
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski"
> <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
> > >
> > >
> > > >>> I have thought that it would be abit of ajob to get the lift pins
in
> > > exactly
> > > the same position on the second pair of wings. Anyone done this easily
> > > yet?
> > >
> > > I think that was one of the drivers behind the factory predrilling and
> > > tapping the lift pin holes in the XS short wings and glider wings.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pilot Conversations |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
still another one: Female first officer on a BA flight checking in on TWR
frq: "Speedbird 123 approaching holding RW 24". TWR - with an eye on
aircraft on long final: "Speedbird 123 are you ready for a quicky"? -
"Ooh yes, but I have to go to London first" - was the prompt reply!!
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btclick.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pilot Conversations
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Graham"
<nigel_graham@btclick.com>
>
> ....and in a similar vein:
>
> Airport unknown - but anecdote runs:
> BA 747 joining a busy taxiway for departure is asked by the controller
> to hold for a previously delayed Virgin Atlantic aircraft.
> The lady controller requests (without considering her words):
> "Speedbird blah blah blah........give way to the Virgin with a tight
> slot"
>
> Nigel ;-)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Pilot Conversations
>
> It's good to know that some pilots have a sense of
> humour...............................
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Subject: Europa-List: Batteries
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>
> Cheers,
> Having regretfully decided not to install the diesel, I am now
> looking at the Rotax 914, so this is aimed at those who already have. In
> considering where to plant two 7"x3"x6-1/2" batteries, I am wondering if
> there is room ahead of firewall for one or both. With two alternators, I
> only need one battery, but will make provision for two and hoped to keep
> both close together.
> Am also begging for info as to where fuel and engine
instrument
> lines should go, as well as electric power cables.
> Am building Classic mono.
> Thanks in advance,
> Ferg # A064
Hi Ferg and all.
I have a 914 nearing installation - I'm also begging for the same info!
Hans.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Turnbuckles for rudder cables |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
on 6/17/03 2:34 AM, Brian Davies at bdavies@dircon.co.uk wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
>
> There is an error in the part numbers quoted in my manual (XS Mono issue 2
> page 22-5 , dated 1 October 1999) for the aerospace standard turnbuckle
> parts..
>
> The cable eye end with right hand thread should be MS21255-3RS- not as
> quoted in the manual MS21251-3RS.
>
> Brian Davies kit 454.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
> To: "Europ Lists" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Turnbuckles for rudder cables
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
>>
>> I would like to hear anyone thoughts on using a turnbuckles on the rudder
>> cables and which ones have worked best. I have been told the ones with the
>> clips are easy. Can anyone tell me which one should be ordered as they are
>> measured in strength in pounds? A part number for Wicks or ACS would be
>> nice. Has anyone had success with the part you make in the manual?
>> Jeff Roberts
>> Nashville,
>> A258
>> Tri gear
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Thanks Brian, for the numbers on the Turnbuckle's.
Jeff
A258
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| Subject: | Re: UK Fly-in at Lydeway Strip, Wiltshire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "J. R. Jones" <jronjones@lineone.net>
More details, please, Nigel !
Please add my name to the list.
Best regards,
Ron Jones.
(G-RJWX Mono XS No. 359)
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| Subject: | Re: UK Fly-in at Lydeway Strip, Wiltshire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dale Hetrick <gdale2@juno.com>
Nigel,
Sorry, I won't be able to make it due to a prior commitment. :-)
Dale (in USA)
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 05:15:12 +0100 "Nigel Charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Charles"
> <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> I will be holding a fly-in at my strip (Lydeway, near Devizes) on
> the first weekend in August. As this is the first year and I wish to
> be careful not to annoy the neighbours this will be limited to
> Europas only and a maximum of 8 aircraft. I plan to hold the event
> on Saturday 2nd August with the 3rd being a backup date if the
> weather proves to be unsuitable. The strip will be open from 11am
> onwards and a BBQ will be provided. The only request I have is that
> pilots are prepared to take a local resident for a flight if asked.
>
> As this is a limited event it will be strictly PPR and bookings will
> be on a first come first served basis. Anyone wishing to come should
> reply to this e-mail for more details.
>
> Nigel Charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fly-in at Marysville (MYV) Northern California |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Wiegand" <dwiegand@surewest.net>
Just a reminder,
for those of you on the West coast of the US, this weekend is the EAA Golden
West fly-in at Marysville California (MYV)
the page of information is:
http://www.goldenwestflyin.org
hope to see you there,
Dean Wiegand
Sacramento CA USA
dwiegand@surewest.net
kit A259
www.dwiegand.dnsalias.com/europa/
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| Subject: | Re: Fly-in at Marysville (MYV) Northern California |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 6/17/2003 6:35:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
dwiegand@surewest.net writes:
> http://www.goldenwestflyin.org
Maybe an overnight camping adventure - Sunday and Monday? Maybe Saturday and
leaving Sunday morning - I have to go to a play on Sunday at 2PM, come to
think of it.
Europa flight time over is 47 minutes, 2.6 gallons.
Dave
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