---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/28/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:29 AM - EAA Centennial Homebuilt of the Week (ScramIt@aol.com) 2. 05:11 AM - Re: Keeping 914 Fuel Pump running (Fred Fillinger) 3. 11:33 AM - Re: Keeping 914 Fuel Pump running (Jos Okhuijsen) 4. 01:47 PM - [ Jim & Heather Butcher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 5. 02:50 PM - Jim Butcher-blue Mountain EFIS (Alan Stills) 6. 11:36 PM - Eine Nachricht von Karl Heinz Topp (Karl Heinz Topp) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:01 AM PST US From: ScramIt@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: EAA Centennial Homebuilt of the Week --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com Congratulations Dave, EAA Centennial Homebuilt of the Week http://www.eaa.org/homebuilders/list/Europa%20XS_Anderson.asp#TopOfPage ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:35 AM PST US From: Fred Fillinger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Keeping 914 Fuel Pump running --> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Fillinger Ronald J. Parigoris wrote: > Thanks for the info. ((the pump is 3A for planning purposes). > > Do you know gross amp draw when you are starting? The starter relay is max 75A, but whatever greater current pulses caused by compression strokes I don't know. The voltage across a lead acid battery drops significantly under high current draw; on a NiMH it does not. In parallel it's going to appear to it as a partial dead short, drawing very high current. My Makita cordless drill has a circuit breaker to prevent the abuse if you stall the motor. Can you then rely on this battery as emergency backup for the fuel pump? It seems at least there will be insufficient time in flight to recharge it. Fred F. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:16 AM PST US From: Jos Okhuijsen Subject: Re: Europa-List: Keeping 914 Fuel Pump running --> Europa-List message posted by: Jos Okhuijsen Just a few remarks, In case of 2 batteries in parellel with different internal resistance, like in the case with a lead acid and a NiMH, the current will be delivered by the one with the lowest internal resisctance, in this case the NiMH. Simply said: the lead battery does nothing at all. Furthermore there will be complications during charging. These type of batteries can not be connected in parellel, not without extra circuits like diodes or relays. Furthermore, starters are calculated with the normal powerdrop in mind, in other words, feeding them with 12 V at "unlimited" current could burn the starter, especially in cold conditions. Looking a bit further at the advertised method of assembling the NiMH packs on http://flydma.com/batteries/index.html it seems, that they are soldered together, and i very much wonder how long the joints will stay reliable in vibrating conditions. If these kind of battery packs would be used for redundancy (=safety?) they could fail at the worst moment. Not such a problem in a model plane maybe, but surely not advisably for manned aircraft. Jos Okhuijsen ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: [ Jim & Heather Butcher ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Europa-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Jim & Heather Butcher Subject: Blue Mtn EFIS1 in XS Monowheel http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/europa@triton.net.06.28.2003/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:06 PM PST US From: "Alan Stills" Subject: Europa-List: Jim Butcher-blue Mountain EFIS --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" Jim, I too am thinking about an EFIS system in my Europa. I'm curious how you came to your decision, using an EFIS as a primary system "without" a lot of backup instruments. Please e-mail me off the list at astills785@earthlink.com on your ideas on this subject. Al Stills A095 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:30 PM PST US From: "Karl Heinz Topp" Subject: Europa-List: Eine Nachricht von Karl Heinz Topp --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heinz Topp" Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, heutzutage spielen Kontakte und Adressdaten eine immer wichtigere Rolle. Aus diesem Grunde habe ich Ihre Adresse in mein privates WEB.DE Adressbuch eingetragen und bitte Sie, diese zu prfen und zu vervollstndigen. Mit Hilfe der zentralen Verwaltung und dem weltweiten Zugriff auf mein WEB.DE Adressbuch werde ich Adressen und Telefonnummern immer zur Hand haben. 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