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1. 04:28 AM - Historical note - Europa NACA ducts (Steve Hagar)
2. 07:50 AM - Re: Historical note - Europa NACA ducts (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
3. 08:32 AM - Re: Historical note - Europa NACA ducts (STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2)
4. 09:13 AM - KIT FOR SALE (Ray M. Knapp)
5. 09:36 AM - Re: Throttle Cables (Terry Seaver)
6. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style? (Ami McFadyean)
7. 01:47 PM - Re: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style? (Richard Holder)
8. 05:39 PM - Sternpost top rebates????? (Graham Singleton)
9. 06:13 PM - Re: Sternpost top rebates????? (Fergus Kyle)
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| Subject: | Historical note - Europa NACA ducts |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
For those of you who have joined the list within the last year and a half
or so I figured I will bring this up again for the new guys since I just
had to deal with it. The NACA ducts supplied by Europa aren't worth the
price of the plastic baggie they come packaged in. Do not install them as
you recieve them! Here's the routine: Perform operational check of the
opening/closing widgit knob once or twice, good, now its broken so you
don't have to worry about it any more. If not push on something so a seam
or joint detaches. Now you don't have to worry about it happening after you
spent the time to bond it in.
Recovery:
Pull the stud off of the moveable door and bond it back in, in the open
position. Make some nice white dry micro fillets along the 2 sides down
the throat for good airflow. Get a block blue foam, a saw, and a sanding
block and a small piece of 1/8" ply and make a form to fab a housing to
attach one of those eyeball vent gaspers to direct and close off your fresh
air.
I believe that's that's the SOP if I left anything out the older timers can
comment as necessary.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa, AZ
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Historical note - Europa NACA ducts |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
In a message dated 7/7/2003 7:28:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hagargs@earthlink.net writes:
> I believe that's that's the SOP if I left anything out the older timers can
> comment as necessary.
>
Steve,
Check out Aircraft Spruce's "Ultimate Ventilators". I put a set in my
Citabria and they are great! I'm planning a set for my Europa. A bit pricey, but
they
provide excellent ventilation.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245
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| Subject: | Historical note - Europa NACA ducts |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2" <garrys@att.com>
I strongly agree with John Lawton. I installed the "Ultimate
Ventilators" two weeks ago, and absolutely love them! I installed mine,
one on each side, in the lower, aft most corners of the windscreen. I
can adjust the flow to blow right on my face which is refreshing in the
Florida sun
Garry V. Stout A060 N4220S
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Steve,
Check out Aircraft Spruce's "Ultimate Ventilators". I put a set in my
Citabria and they are great! I'm planning a set for my Europa. A bit
pricey, but they
provide excellent ventilation.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ray M. Knapp" <rmkhomes@charter.net>
Hi All,
Well, I got all excited, purchased a kit, planned to complete it in
a hurry - and - CHANGES. My business has boomed - I simply have no
time. Will have to stick with Cessna. So I've got Kit # A196 for sale
- $22,000. Full monowheel kit, fast build options, long range fuel tank
& speed kit. No work done except all steel parts are Cadmium plated.
Wings still shrink-wrapped. Located in Medford, Oregon. E-mail is
best: rmkhomes@charter.net or call 541-899-4041.
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle Cables |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Paul,
Do cut the cables back to an appropriate length, re-using the fitting in the outers
at the carb
end. Cut the ends of the inner (carb end) with a dremel wheel after first soldering
at the place
to be cut, to prevent frayed ends.
We had the throttle cables get very 'sticky' just before first flight. No amount
of lube would
make it better. We took the outer part of the cable to the local bike shop and
got a replacement
outer, which lasted about 150 hours. We then got another outer, teflon lined this
time, which
will hopefully last longer.
regards,
Terry Seaver
Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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> Hi All,
>
> I am installing my throttle cables and they seem very long. Where does all of
the excess go?
>
> Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Yes.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Subject: FW: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Steve Hagar <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> > To: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
> > Date: 7/6/03 9:04:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style?
> >
> > Has anyone out there attached a standard vernier type throttle instead
of
> the Europa detailed throttle lever? Phoenix Composits out here put one in
> a Europa they are building. The installation looks very sanitary. Though
> there is no history on it yet.
> >
> > Steve Hagar
> > A143 Mesa,Az
> > (Panel and ineterior wiring, hope to hang the engine before the summer
is
> out. (Typical summer that is - the normal summer here lasts till October))
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
> > > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > > Date: 7/6/03 1:38:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable attachment to the Carburetor
> > >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder
<rholder@avnet.co.uk>
> > >
> > > It is called a "solderless nipple".
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
> > > Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
> > > Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
> > > SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
> > > Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, EGSG (Stapleford)
> > > PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
> > > >
> > > > Yup!
> > > > Paul, there is a small cylinder shaped device that is inserted
> in
> > > > the throttle lever. The cable is inserted into the cylinder unit
and
> the
> > > > cable is fastened in position by way of a screw that "jams" the
cable
> and
> > > > holds it there. It is the correct method.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jim Nelson
> > > > N15JN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 5 Jul 2003 14:32:48 -0500 "Paul McAllister"
> > > > <paul.mcallister@qia.net> writes:
> > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> > > >> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi All,
> > > >>
> > > >> This would be a question for the factory if it wasn't a weekend.
> > > >> The engine manual does not give much indication as to how the cable
> > > >> is fastened to the carburetor. I have tried clamping it under the
> > > >> flat washers, however this does not allow the cable to pivot as the
> > > >> carburetor arm rotates from open to closed. This causes the cable
> > > >> to bend a bit in the closed position. Am I missing something here
> > > >> ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Paul
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> > --- Steve Hagar
> > --- hagargs@earthlink.net
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> --- Steve Hagar
> --- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Each to their own, but one of the many reasons I used to fly a PA28 rather
than a 152 or 172 was that it had a proper quadrant throttle. The push-pull
thing in Cessnas is so crude. The Europa throttle is much more
sophisticated.
Of course the Cessna has its wings in the wrong place too !
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, EGSG (Stapleford)
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Yes.
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> To: "europa-list-matronics" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: FW: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style?
>
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>>
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Steve Hagar <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>>> To: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>>> Date: 7/6/03 9:04:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle cable attachment, alternate style?
>>>
>>> Has anyone out there attached a standard vernier type throttle instead
> of
>> the Europa detailed throttle lever? Phoenix Composits out here put one in
>> a Europa they are building. The installation looks very sanitary. Though
>> there is no history on it yet.
>>>
>>> Steve Hagar
>>> A143 Mesa,Az
>>> (Panel and ineterior wiring, hope to hang the engine before the summer
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| Subject: | Sternpost top rebates????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 06/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Sternpost top rebates?????
Tony,
I guess you are using an XS sternpost and you are a Classic?
The recesses are probably for the top rib of the XS rudder. Suggest you
just grind them away and repair with a couple of plies of BID.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Sternpost top rebates????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Sternpost top rebates?????
| --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
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| At 23:56 06/07/2003 -0700, you wrote:
| >Sternpost top rebates?????
|
| Tony,
| I guess you are using an XS sternpost and you are a Classic?
| The recesses are probably for the top rib of the XS rudder. Suggest you
| just grind them away and repair with a couple of plies of BID.
| Graham
Tony,
GraSing has described my state, and I did just that. It works
quite well.
Ferg
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