Europa-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/10/03


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:23 AM - Virus Warning (Carl & Dot)
     2. 02:28 AM - SmartTool Calibrating (Tony Renshaw)
     3. 02:35 AM - Re: SmartTool Calibrating (Alan)
     4. 03:02 AM - Re: SmartTool Calibrating (R.C.Harrison)
     5. 03:44 AM - SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd (Tony Renshaw)
     6. 07:32 AM - Re: Bob and Prince P tip props (Rob Housman)
     7. 07:52 AM - Re: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd (RK Hallett III)
     8. 09:05 AM - Re: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd (Jeremy Davey)
     9. 09:22 AM - Re: Throttle Cables (Carl & Dot)
    10. 12:54 PM - Re: Throttle Cables (Fergus Kyle)
    11. 01:10 PM - Re: Ultimate Ventilator Pics (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
    12. 01:35 PM - to all eCharts customers (Aircraft Technical Book Company)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:23:30 AM PST US
    From: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Virus Warning
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> Today I received a suspicious email in several of my emailboxes subjectline "movie". Just to be sure I updated my virusscanner before attempting to open it (attachment was titled "your details"). As I suspected it was a virus (virus name W32/Sobig.e@MM) I noticed the same message on my incoming matronics europa mail however the attachment had been removed (no doubt matronics automatically scans for viruses)


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    Time: 02:28:45 AM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: SmartTool Calibrating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday, I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... Reg Tony Renshaw


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    Time: 02:35:25 AM PST US
    From: "Alan" <aopd37@dsl.pipex.com>
    Subject: Re: SmartTool Calibrating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan" <aopd37@dsl.pipex.com> You don't need to press Hold Alan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating > --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > > Gidday, > I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could > remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the > Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, > then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a > step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I > need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... > Reg > Tony Renshaw > >


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    Time: 03:02:49 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: SmartTool Calibrating
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Tony. I've lent my unit out but I'll be surprised if the method isn't printed on the side of the unit? Try going to bed earlier! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday, I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... Reg Tony Renshaw


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    Time: 03:44:33 AM PST US
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
    Subject: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Now it mightn't have been to Smart to ask a question about a SmartTool with court jesters lurking.............but I have looked to see if there are any instructions "On" the level. I used to keep the instructions buried within the level, in the battery compartment, but I must have been remiss at returning them after use. Its not such a big deal, simply I am wondering at what point it is appropriate to move the level after it displays "Calibrate 1". It flashes the whole time until you repress calibrate, which is a bit incongruous if it is taking a reading. One might choose to think that it would stop flashing once it had made its first registering of the level. I have left my guard down to be asking questions about a SmartTool.........maybe there is a message there ;-) Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 11:10 AM 7/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > >Hi! Tony. >I've lent my unit out but I'll be surprised if the method isn't printed on >the side of the unit? >Try going to bed earlier! >Regards >Bob Harrison G-PTAG > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw ><tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > >Gidday, >I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could >remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the >Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, >then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a >step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I >need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... >Reg >Tony Renshaw > >


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    Time: 07:32:05 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
    Subject: Bob and Prince P tip props
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com> Here's what a quick web search found on that prop: http://www.tntlandinggear.com/store/shop/prince_aircraft.htm Best regards, Rob Housman Europa XS Tri-Gear A070 Airfarame complete Irvine, CA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Bob and Prince P tip props --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Gidday, I too would like to congratulate Bob. As for this Prince P prop, never heard of it until today, but my superficial searching makes me believe that it may be a fixed pitch. Is this so??? If anyone knows of a good website to have a look at this prop I'd be really interested in getting it. Surprising these days for someone to "not go Airmaster", but maybe the blades could go into an Aimaster hub. In anticipation. Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia


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    Time: 07:52:04 AM PST US
    From: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Tony, Here you go, per the manual. Place level on flat surface. Wait 10 seconds. Push and hold the Calibrate button for 2 seconds, CAL1 will appear on the display. Rotate end for end. Wait 10 seconds. Push Cal button again, Cal2 will appear. You are done. Ralph Motorglider Reno, NV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd > --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > > Now it mightn't have been to Smart to ask a question about a SmartTool with > court jesters lurking.............but I have looked to see if there are any > instructions "On" the level. I used to keep the instructions buried within the > level, in the battery compartment, but I must have been remiss at returning > them after use. Its not such a big deal, simply I am wondering at what point it > is appropriate to move the level after it displays "Calibrate 1". It flashes > the whole time until you repress calibrate, which is a bit incongruous if it is > taking a reading. One might choose to think that it would stop flashing once it > had made its first registering of the level. I have left my guard down to be > asking questions about a SmartTool.........maybe there is a message there ;-) > Reg > Tony Renshaw > Sydney Australia > > > At 11:10 AM 7/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > > >Hi! Tony. > >I've lent my unit out but I'll be surprised if the method isn't printed on > >the side of the unit? > >Try going to bed earlier! > >Regards > >Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw > >To: europa-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating > > > > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw > ><tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > > > >Gidday, > >I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could > >remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the > >Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, > >then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a > >step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I > >need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... > >Reg > >Tony Renshaw > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:05:10 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
    Subject: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com> It flashes to say it has taken a reading and is patiently waiting for you to offer it the next one... A wee tip: it doesn't work with all the 'other label' ones SmartTool do (e.g. Bosch), but if you don't rotate through 180 degrees it allows you to 'tare' the level to the surface you are working on (provided it is within 5 degrees of true horizontal or vertical). A word for anyone in the UK wanting one: the cheapest source by far is Harry Hopkins at Gloster Air Parts. He's also very useful for numbered drills and AN fittings. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating Cont'd --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> Now it mightn't have been to Smart to ask a question about a SmartTool with court jesters lurking.............but I have looked to see if there are any instructions "On" the level. I used to keep the instructions buried within the level, in the battery compartment, but I must have been remiss at returning them after use. Its not such a big deal, simply I am wondering at what point it is appropriate to move the level after it displays "Calibrate 1". It flashes the whole time until you repress calibrate, which is a bit incongruous if it is taking a reading. One might choose to think that it would stop flashing once it had made its first registering of the level. I have left my guard down to be asking questions about a SmartTool.........maybe there is a message there ;-) Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Australia At 11:10 AM 7/10/2003 +0100, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > >Hi! Tony. >I've lent my unit out but I'll be surprised if the method isn't printed on >the side of the unit? >Try going to bed earlier! >Regards >Bob Harrison G-PTAG > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: SmartTool Calibrating > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw ><tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au> > >Gidday, >I seem to have misplaced my instructions and was wondering if someone could >remind me how to calibrate it. It shouldn't be hard, just press the >Calibrate button, press hold, turn it through 180 degrees, press Calibrate, >then press Hold, and that should be that. Well I think I have forgotten a >step or two, or maybe added one with the hold button. Suffice to say, I >need a brain awakener. Standing by.................................... >Reg >Tony Renshaw > >


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    Time: 09:22:09 AM PST US
    From: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Throttle Cables
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> This subject is probably now yesterdays news but we had a lot of problems with kinked cables before I found out the problem. Unfortunately if the outer sleeves are not routed right, the cable in the throttle box kinks and thats the end of it (ie: the cable has to be replaced). This is in my opinion a major weakness of this particular design.The first 6 inches of the cables should be rigid and not flexible as in the current setup. We found the supplied cable sleeves (including the replacements) to be too long for our installation. This simply results in an unacceptable number of bends and the inevitable jamming and kinking of the inner cable. Our best solution was to cut through the cable sleeves about 1 inch from the carburettor ends and to cut out a portion of the outer sleeving. The remaining ends are then joined back together by gluing them inside a short alumiinum tubing sleeve (as found in model shops - brass would be ok too). An added advantage is that without the screw ends to get in the way, the cable outers can easily be passed from the tunnell end through the narrow gap between the undercarriage frame and the top of the tunnel. We found this nearly impossible with the screw ends attached (NB they cannot be removed at the cable ends). It is essential that the cables are routed in a very lazy S shape with no tight bends whatsoever (ie: straight out from throttle box, bending gently outwards & upwards, passing through top of tunnel then back inwards past the carb filters to the carb attachment points). We used some strategically shaped tiewraps at the engine compartment ends to keep the cable paths exactly as we wanted them. Ours have to route outboard of the rotax filters but this will be different if a plenum box is fitted. Having replaced two cables even before our first flight had always been a worry and we always look and check inside the throttle box as part of our pre start up checks to make sure there is no sign of kinking. However after 6 months flying and no problems to date we are confident we have got things right. Of course the occasional squirt of light oil helps too. Hopefully this hasnt confused too much. Carl & Dot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Seaver" <terrys@cisco.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle Cables > --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com> > > Hi Paul, > > Do cut the cables back to an appropriate length, re-using the fitting in the outers at the carb > end. Cut the ends of the inner (carb end) with a dremel wheel after first soldering at the place > to be cut, to prevent frayed ends. > We had the throttle cables get very 'sticky' just before first flight. No amount of lube would > make it better. We took the outer part of the cable to the local bike shop and got a replacement > outer, which lasted about 150 hours. We then got another outer, teflon lined this time, which > will hopefully last longer. > > regards, > Terry Seaver > > Paul McAllister wrote: > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > > > Hi All, > > > > I am installing my throttle cables and they seem very long. Where does all of the excess go? > > > > Paul > > > >


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    Time: 12:54:27 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: Throttle Cables
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> Gee, I hope this is all 914 info.......... Cheers, Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle Cables | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com> | | This subject is probably now yesterdays news but we had a lot of problems | with kinked cables before I found out the problem. Unfortunately if the | outer sleeves are not routed right, the cable in the throttle box kinks and | thats the end of it (ie: the cable has to be replaced). This is in my | opinion a major weakness of this particular design.The first 6 inches of the | cables should be rigid and not flexible as in the current setup. | | We found the supplied cable sleeves (including the replacements) to be too | long for our installation. This simply results in an unacceptable number of | bends and the inevitable jamming and kinking of the inner cable. | | Our best solution was to cut through the cable sleeves about 1 inch from the | carburettor ends and to cut out a portion of the outer sleeving. The | remaining ends are then joined back together by gluing them inside a short | alumiinum tubing sleeve (as found in model shops - brass would be ok too). | An added advantage is that without the screw ends to get in the way, the | cable outers can easily be passed from the tunnell end through the narrow | gap between the undercarriage frame and the top of the tunnel. We found this | nearly impossible with the screw ends attached (NB they cannot be removed at | the cable ends). | | It is essential that the cables are routed in a very lazy S shape with no | tight bends whatsoever (ie: straight out from throttle box, bending gently | outwards & upwards, passing through top of tunnel then back inwards past the | carb filters to the carb attachment points). We used some strategically | shaped tiewraps at the engine compartment ends to keep the cable paths | exactly as we wanted them. Ours have to route outboard of the rotax filters | but this will be different if a plenum box is fitted. | | Having replaced two cables even before our first flight had always been a | worry and we always look and check inside the throttle box as part of our | pre start up checks to make sure there is no sign of kinking. | | However after 6 months flying and no problems to date we are confident we | have got things right. Of course the occasional squirt of light oil helps | too. | | Hopefully this hasnt confused too much. | | Carl & Dot | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Terry Seaver" <terrys@cisco.com> | To: <europa-list@matronics.com> | Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle Cables | | | > --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com> | > | > Hi Paul, | > | > Do cut the cables back to an appropriate length, re-using the fitting in | the outers at the carb | > end. Cut the ends of the inner (carb end) with a dremel wheel after first | soldering at the place | > to be cut, to prevent frayed ends. | > We had the throttle cables get very 'sticky' just before first flight. No | amount of lube would | > make it better. We took the outer part of the cable to the local bike shop | and got a replacement | > outer, which lasted about 150 hours. We then got another outer, teflon | lined this time, which | > will hopefully last longer. | > | > regards, | > Terry Seaver | > | > Paul McAllister wrote: | > | > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" | <paul.mcallister@qia.net> | > > | > > Hi All, | > > | > > I am installing my throttle cables and they seem very long. Where does | all of the excess go? | > > | > > Paul | > > | > | > | | | | | |


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    Time: 01:10:53 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Ultimate Ventilator Pics
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Hi Bob, Thanks for the pix. Is the operation a 180' turn of the knob for fully open? Does this turn the moving plate 180' from it's closed postion? Where did/are you going to mount it? Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Trigear


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    Time: 01:35:41 PM PST US
    From: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com>
    Subject: to all eCharts customers
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Aircraft Technical Book Company" <winterland@rkymtnhi.com> As of yesterday, our eCharts division has a new address. It is now a part of our newest on-line catalog www.PilotsBooks.com Go to PilotsBooks, click on CHARTS on the left and a new page will come up allowing you to navigate between Sectionals, WACs, TACs, Facility directories, wall charts, and all IFR enroute charts and terminal plates. All else is exactly the same as before. This is not an ownership change. Just an internal consolidation of 2 related sites. Our company now has 3 basic divisions: Builder's Bookstore - for the custom aircraft builder Aircraft Technical Books - for the student and professional mechanic PilotsBooks - for aircraft owners and pilots ...plus our 2 partnered sites KitPlanes Books and AMT Books as someone in the movies said "the trilogy is now complete" Thanks, Andy do not archive




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