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1. 08:27 AM - trailing edges (paul stewart)
2. 09:53 AM - Europa: coast to Coast (Christine and Peter Timm)
3. 11:35 AM - Aileron Link Rod (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
4. 12:21 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (Jeremy Davey)
5. 12:49 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
6. 02:13 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (Stephan Cassel)
7. 02:21 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
8. 03:13 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (Jeremy Davey)
9. 07:49 PM - Re: Aileron Link Rod (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
10. 07:53 PM - Re: Setting wing incidence (Tony Renshaw)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
Another finishing question. Whats the best thing to do with shaping trailing edges
(ailerons, flaps etc) - squared off or rounded. I'm wondering if paint will
stick better to a rounded trailing edge. Any thoughts?
Regards
Paul Stewart #432
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| Subject: | Europa: coast to Coast |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Christine and Peter Timm <cptimm@telus.net>
For Europa builders in Canada.
We will be flying our Classic Europa (Rotax 912S with Airmaster VP prop.)
across Canada next month.
Our goal is to leave B.C. Vancouver area around the 19th August to arrive in
Brampton in time for their Fly In on Aug. 24. We expect to be based in
Brampton a few days prior, weather permitting. Then we head east with a
goal of being at the Stanley, Nova Scotia Fly In for Labour Day, Sept. 1.
Hope we shall see some of you there.
However, it occurred to us some builders on our route may be interested to
meet and compare notes. If you are, please reply to our personal e-mail:
cptimm@telus.net
subject: Europa Coast to Coast
(this will put your mail into our Europa folder where we can be sure it's
not spam)
and we will try to include your airport as one of our stops.
--
Cheers,
Peter and Christine Timm
C-GIET
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| Subject: | Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Greeting to all,
I just made up my first aileron link rod. But when I went to attach it to the
aileron it didn't fit. The MW4 Rod End ID is .250 but the FL13 Spacer OD is
.315. So I figure it goes on the bolt itself up aginst the ER001, then the
spacer, washer, and nut. But there's not enough room on the bolt to handle all
this. What did I do wrong? Bolt seated too deep?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Mike,
FL13 is used in the outboard flap hinge, not the aileron. The link rod
attachment to the aileron has no FL13 - see Fig 5 on page 9-3. Just use two
EUR001s and one MS21042-4.
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
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Subject: Europa-List: Aileron Link Rod
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Greeting to all,
I just made up my first aileron link rod. But when I went to attach it to
the
aileron it didn't fit. The MW4 Rod End ID is .250 but the FL13 Spacer OD is
.315. So I figure it goes on the bolt itself up aginst the ER001, then the
spacer, washer, and nut. But there's not enough room on the bolt to handle
all
this. What did I do wrong? Bolt seated too deep?
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hi Jeremy,
Fig.5 on 9-3 refers to mounting the aileron link rod to the bellcrank.
I looked at Fig. 11 on 7-6. This is the bolt embedded with the A2 plate in
the inboard end of the aileron that the aileron link rod attaches to. That's
where they use an FL13. I've got the ones in the outboard flap hinge.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Stephan Cassel" <cassel@sensewave.com>
Hi Mike
The Spacer FL13 (seen on page 7-6) is only used to make the EUR001 tight
against the
lay-up. FL13 is removed after curing and used later for the outrigger
assembly.
All push rod connections and the aileron mounting use same techniques:
1 x AN4-10A + 2 x EUR001 + 1 x MS21042-4
But you are building a trigear so I am not sure if you need the FL13
anymore.
Keep it some where, you never know...
Regards
Stephan
Builder 556
Norway
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron Link Rod
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hi Jeremy,
Fig.5 on 9-3 refers to mounting the aileron link rod to the bellcrank.
I looked at Fig. 11 on 7-6. This is the bolt embedded with the A2 plate in
the inboard end of the aileron that the aileron link rod attaches to. That's
where they use an FL13. I've got the ones in the outboard flap hinge.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Thanks Stephan,
Now that makes sense. It didn't even cross my mind. I'll pull the FL13's off
the Aileron connectors.
Mike
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| Subject: | Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Mike,
The FL13 in that instance is only used to allow the nut to lightly press the
washer down - it cannot be screwed down the plain shank to put pressure on
the washer.
The text next to 9-3 makes it clear that the basic fit is the same at both
ends of the link-rod. More to the point, every Europa I've ever seen
including the factory ones is done this way!
Hope this helps!
Regards,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron Link Rod
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hi Jeremy,
Fig.5 on 9-3 refers to mounting the aileron link rod to the bellcrank.
I looked at Fig. 11 on 7-6. This is the bolt embedded with the A2 plate in
the inboard end of the aileron that the aileron link rod attaches to. That's
where they use an FL13. I've got the ones in the outboard flap hinge.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Link Rod |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Thanks guys,
That little bit of guidance got me off on the right path. All is going well
now. Except it's 118'F (48'C) outside the workshop.
'Til next time!
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Setting wing incidence |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Are these pictures of my wing/flap any help to what you are after. If so, they
are easy to make using the wing root as a template. Just for inspiration.}
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
At 11:32 PM 7/28/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
><jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
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>John,
>
>I suggest you call Andy at the Factory. This year Andy did Sun 'n' Fun and
>Neville is doing Oshkosh, which is a huge help to those of us building
>through the summer.
>
>Regards,
>Jeremy
>
>Jeremy Davey
>
>Europa XS Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Setting wing incidence
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>
>Greetings all,
>
>I'm about to tackle setting my wing incidence. The manual says to use the
>flap template and a digital level. Got that, but it also says the tollerance
>is
>.05 degrees. This seems a bit tough to get considering the method employed.
>My
>template is accurate enough to set the flaps in place, but I don't think I
>can
>achieve the accuracy needed with the given method.
>
>With R/C stuff we use an incidence level that clamps to the LE and TE level
>to the cordline. This seems much more effective, but I don't have one big
>enough to make it work.
>
> Since it's Oskosh week all the Europa folks are away. Due to a pregnant Lab
>
>who is set to drop puppies any day now I won't be going to Oshkosh this
>year.
>Are there any tricks that those who have come before me can offer?
>
>Regards,
>
>John Lawton
>Dunlap, TN
>A-245
>
>
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