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1. 07:45 AM - Re: Filling around the cowl area (Rob Housman)
2. 04:45 PM - Winter ASI or Not????? (Tony Renshaw)
3. 05:09 PM - Re: Winter ASI or Not????? (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
4. 07:14 PM - Rivet Question (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
5. 07:27 PM - Re: Winter ASI or Not????? (Tony Renshaw)
6. 07:35 PM - Hand Setting Rivets (Tony Renshaw)
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| Subject: | Filling around the cowl area |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Your mention of screw locations reminded me that there is another concern
with locating the cowl attachment screw holes - the location of the panel
attachment screw holes. As I learned from a post on this forum several
years ago, it is easy enough to have the two sets of fasteners interfere
with each other. It would be a good idea to plan both sets of attachment
points at the same time (for obvious reasons).
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Fillinger
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Filling around the cowl area
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Fillinger <fillinger@ameritech.net>
> We removed about an inch of the joggle on the lower cowl at the top aft
> corners, so the screws hold only the upper cowl at those points. This has
> worked out just fine for us. The lower cowl is held precisely in place,
> between the upper cowl and fuselage joggle, and there are plenty of screws
> remaining around the lower cowl to keep it firmly attached.
>
> Dave DeFord
> M135TD
Did the same thing, and altered screw spacing so the top screw on the
lower cowl is more nearish to the top of the lower cowl half. I agree,
it's still affixed solid.
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
At first I didn't like the Winter 6443 ASI but it has grown on me as I now
think of it as "Europa Specific". Now you can tell that I havent flown in
too many gliders as I have it on expert authority that they are more common
in them. Having said all that, I am aware of what Europa say about this for
speed management at low IAS, for example on takeoff, but I want to know
what other users think of them please. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Tony,
Tell you what. Why not buy my ASI so I can buy a Winter!
Having an ASI that works at low speeds in the Europa is really good. I
use the RMI uEncoder as my primary approach instrument as it's sensitive
down at low speeds and allows me to really nail the approach/final/flare
speeds.
Having a Winter ASI would achieve the same sort of thing.
Tony [eagerly awaiting the arrival of the plane back from the painters]
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hello to All,
My friend that allows me to use his rivet squeezer has gone on vacation for
three weeks just when I needed him, or it. He's an RV builder and knows his
rivets. He inspects my workmanship after I'm done and gives me some good
information, since I have never had to squeeze rivets before this.
Anyone know of any acceptable caveman ways of squeezing these without a real
tool? Is a vise OK to use? Ball peen hammer on an anvil? But that removes any
evidence of the "dot" on the head and flattens it.
My only options would be to wait for his return or pay over $125 for a tool
that I'll rarely use. Both of these ways bother me.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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| Subject: | Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Yee ha on the painting. I hope it stays on ;-)
Reg
Tony R.
At 12:07 PM 8/13/2003 +1200, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
>Tony,
>
>Tell you what. Why not buy my ASI so I can buy a Winter!
>
>Having an ASI that works at low speeds in the Europa is really good. I
>use the RMI uEncoder as my primary approach instrument as it's sensitive
>down at low speeds and allows me to really nail the approach/final/flare
>speeds.
>
>Having a Winter ASI would achieve the same sort of thing.
>
>Tony [eagerly awaiting the arrival of the plane back from the painters]
>
>
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| Subject: | Hand Setting Rivets |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Mike,
Rivet setting tool from ACS or friendly LAME. Peen out the head a little with a
flat punch and then drive home with balanced job and accurate "technical taps".
2 people required as it is basically impossible without the job being kept
steady on the end of the setting tool, unless you have 3 arms, no 4. Head size
1/5 times original diameter. Secret for hand setting..... Use a spring loaded
centrepunch to establish/re-establish small drilling hole for removal prior to
drilling. This will ensure drill remains centred and doesn't walk away from
shaft below. Careful depth of drilling so that head alone can be cut off with
sharp chisel. I hope I haven't jinxed you with this tip. Good luck.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
At 10:13 PM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
>
>Hello to All,
>
>My friend that allows me to use his rivet squeezer has gone on vacation for
>three weeks just when I needed him, or it. He's an RV builder and knows his
>rivets. He inspects my workmanship after I'm done and gives me some good
>information, since I have never had to squeeze rivets before this.
>Anyone know of any acceptable caveman ways of squeezing these without a real
>tool? Is a vise OK to use? Ball peen hammer on an anvil? But that removes any
>evidence of the "dot" on the head and flattens it.
>My only options would be to wait for his return or pay over $125 for a tool
>that I'll rarely use. Both of these ways bother me.
>
>Mike Duane A207
>Redding, California
>XS Trigear
>
>
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