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1. 01:39 AM - dimensions of boxes (Jos Okhuijsen)
2. 07:00 AM - Re: dimensions of boxes (John & Amy Eckel)
3. 10:19 AM - Winter ASI or Not????? (Graham Singleton)
4. 11:06 AM - Re: Winter ASI or Not????? (Gerry Holland)
5. 12:58 PM - Fw: Rougham Air Display 17th August (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
6. 03:01 PM - Re: Winter ASI or Not????? (Ami McFadyean)
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| Subject: | dimensions of boxes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok@ukolo.fi>
Does anybody have the dimensions of the boxes fot stage 1, 2 and 3 at
hand? Have seen them somewhere, but can't find them now i need them :-(
Jos Okhuijsen (not building yet)
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| Subject: | Re: dimensions of boxes |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
My stage two and three came in a crate 16 feet long, 6 feet high and
4 feet wide. Don't rermember the size of the stage one box.
John, A230
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Europa-List: dimensions of boxes
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok@ukolo.fi>
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> Does anybody have the dimensions of the boxes fot stage 1, 2 and 3 at
> hand? Have seen them somewhere, but can't find them now i need them :-(
> Jos Okhuijsen (not building yet)
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| Subject: | Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 12/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Winter ASI or Not?????
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
At first I didn't like the Winter 6443 ASI but it has grown on me as I now
think of it as "Europa Specific". I am aware of what Europa say about this for
speed management at low IAS, for example on takeoff, but I want to know
what other users think of them please. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Tony
I would recommend the Dynon AI which has airspeed , altitude and AOA
displayed as tapes. AOA is the right way to control airspeed. It tells you
instantly if something has changed. Any ASI only tells you something
changed 20 seconds ago.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Tony Hi!
> I would recommend the Dynon AI which has airspeed , altitude and AOA
> displayed as tapes. AOA is the right way to control airspeed. It tells you
> instantly if something has changed. Any ASI only tells you something
> changed 20 seconds ago.
I have fitted the Dynon EFIS although it hasn't flown yet.
It's a neat device at a good price, $2200 with Flush mounting Bracket and
internal Lithium Battery that lasts 2 hrs + and gives independence in event
of total electrical failure.
It provides:
AoA (extra $250)
Attitude Indicator
Compass/DI type display (can have remote Compass unit)
VSI
Voltmeter
G - Meter
Timer
Clock
Airspeed
Barometric Pressure is now in millibars and has single button selection when
Transition Altitude reached.
Furthermore it's a Grey code Encoder for Transponder
I've also downloaded 5 Checklists of my own selectable with a single key as
required.
ASI and Altimeter can be set with 'bugs' and Airspeed bands (Vne, Vso) etc
can be set with colour code.
It would be possible to use Dynon as primary VFR awareness device and move
conventional ASI, VSI and Altimeter to RH side or add supplementary Panel on
that side as standby instruments.
The cost and weight saving is worth consideration. It weighs 1.5lbs.
There are some great devices either available or imminent including a super
unit from Grand Rapids Avionics although a little more expensive.
Spoilt for choice mate!
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
Europa 384
G-FIZY
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Fwd: Rougham Air Display 17th August |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland & Wilma Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Following message forwarded by Europa Club membership secretary.
Please make any responses on this direct to Duncan Skeels.
>Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:54:19 +0100 (BST)
>From: Duncan Skeels <aeronautsaviators@yahoo.co.uk>
>Subject: Rougham Air Display 17th August
>To: aeronautsaviators@yahoo.co.uk
>
>Hi guys & gals!
>
>I have 26 slots available for our Air Display on
>Sunday 17th!!!! Not many places you can go for free
>and see a 4 hour flying display to boot!
>
>I have slots available from 0900 local up until 1240
>local...the catch is you can't leave until after END
>DISPLAY (1710 approx)...but there will be plenty to
>keep you entertained...probably headed by me running
>around pulling my steadily receding hair out!
>
>It's not often in GA that you're offered a freebie..no
>landing fees, no event admission (please leave all
>aircraft seating more than 8 at home!!!!)
>
>There will be a prize for the most interesting and the
>best turned out visiting aircraft (in mine or my
>designee's opinion)...don't sell up and move to the
>Bahama's just yet!
>
>Please let me know ASAP if you intend to visit and
>what is your 'dream slot time' I will get back to
>you...
>
>You can of course come along on Saturday and visit or
>(god forbid) camp over..again let me know...tents will
>be inspected at 0400 Sunday morning! Once a Scout
>always a Scout as Manfred von Richthofen would say! or
>was that a Canadian with a Lee Enfield?????
>
>all the best
>
>Duncan
>
>=====
>Duncan Skeels,Airfield Operations Manager/Flying Display Director,
>Rougham Airfield,Suffolk, UK. Pilots airfield info at:
>www.roughamairfield.org org general event info Tel: 01359-270238
>Pilots E-mail:duncan@roughamairfield.org/duncs@roughamairfield.org
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (590 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: Winter ASI or Not????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I used a second-hand Winter rescued from a glider. Its brilliant! I can't
find any measurable error anywhere in the Europa speed range.
Static source is from the cockpit by the way.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Winter ASI or Not?????
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Yee ha on the painting. I hope it stays on ;-)
> Reg
> Tony R.
>
> At 12:07 PM 8/13/2003 +1200, you wrote:
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski"
<tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
> >
> >Tony,
> >
> >Tell you what. Why not buy my ASI so I can buy a Winter!
> >
> >Having an ASI that works at low speeds in the Europa is really good. I
> >use the RMI uEncoder as my primary approach instrument as it's sensitive
> >down at low speeds and allows me to really nail the approach/final/flare
> >speeds.
> >
> >Having a Winter ASI would achieve the same sort of thing.
> >
> >Tony [eagerly awaiting the arrival of the plane back from the painters]
> >
> >
>
>
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