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1. 02:27 AM - Tailplane Pitch (Graham Singleton)
2. 02:45 AM - Re: Oil Level (Ami McFadyean)
3. 04:12 AM - Re: Oil Level (Carl & Dot)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Tailplane Pitch (paul stewart)
5. 12:40 PM - All white now! (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
6. 01:19 PM - Europa adverts web pages ()
7. 02:28 PM - Mounting 914 TCU box (Steve Hagar)
8. 06:10 PM - Re: Mounting 914 TCU box (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
9. 06:23 PM - Re: Mounting 914 TCU box (DJA727@aol.com)
10. 10:10 PM - Re: Mounting 914 TCU box (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 15/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Tailplane Pitch
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Alan
I know what the book says but I always recommend 13 degrees of up and 4 or
5 down. You need the up with a monowheel to achieve a decent amount of down
pressure on the tail wheel during landing roll out. This is the most likely
reason for loss of yaw control on the ground, usually as the speed drops to
15 kts or so and the rudder is less effective.
Graham
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
It is true that the oil does siphon out of the oil tank when the engine is
shut down. So long as it can't siphon out completely to the extent that the
open end of the suction pipe in the oil tank becomes exposed, then I don't
see that it matters much.
You'll find that on most installations, the level of the oil pump/sump is
about half way up the oil tank. Thus the siphoning should stop when the
level of oil in the tank gets down to that level. That's my own experience
with periods of inactivity of four weeks or so.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Davis" <peterdavis@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Oil Level
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Davis" <peterdavis@ntlworld.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> Just thought it was time I asked the question.
>
> Since completing my 'plane (first flight Aug. 1999) I have experienced oil
> siphoning out of the tank into (presumably) the crank case if it is left
> unused for a number of days. I used to recon on two weeks for the level on
> the dipstick to go from full to less than half way down the 'flat' on the
> stick, but with the advent of the new improved dipstick - which requires
> more oil in the tank and has a shorter 'flat' - this seems to be more like
a
> week.
>
> The system is a 'Classic' airframe with the 80hp 912 and oil tank on the
> port side as instructed. The tank is set at the correct height according
to
> the manual - in fact there is no possibility of it being anywhere else due
> to the exhaust stubs, cowlings, firewall, etc.
>
> This doesn't cause me too much of a problem - I just have to ensure I go
> flying at least once a week :-) but am curious as to whether anyone else
has
> come across this.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
Another solution might be to ensure the levels are correct (ie check after
flight that oil is between marks on dipstick) and then check oil when level
has dropped (ie : siphoned back into sump).
Once you know what this level is then mark the dipstick at that point (
grind a small notch using a grinding stone)
Then one can safely check the levels before flight and not risk burning your
fingers afterwards.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Davis" <peterdavis@ntlworld.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Level
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Davis" <peterdavis@ntlworld.com>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I used to check it after each flight, and still do occasionally if really
> necessary. However, after burning my thumb and finger so often I am very
> circumspect about doing this now unless I am hanging around for an hour or
> so!
>
> The nice thing is that allowing for the level 'ups and downs' I don't seem
> to use much at all between 50 hour replacements. Nice engine, the 912.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> mailto:peterdavis@ntlworld.com
>
> This message has been scanned by Norton Internet Security for all known
> viruses.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> DJA727@aol.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oil Level
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> What I have done is to check the oil at the end of every flight. Since I
am
> the only one flying it, I can check the airplane the next time I fly. If
no
> oil
> is leaking, then the oil level should be OK. Looking at the level of oil
at
> start will make sense depending on how long the airplane has sat and what
> the
> level was after the last flight. One other consideration is that the
engine
> flew with the old dip stick for years. This new one is just more
> conservative, I
> think. Just keep it topped off!
>
> Dave
> A227 Mini U2
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tailplane Pitch |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
Keep cutting!
The top of the cut out on our XS is just above the joint line between upper
and lower mouldings - ie. we had to cut into the lower moulding joggle
slightly.
Regards
Paul Stewart #432
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Tailplane Pitch
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills"
<astills785@earthlink.net>
>
> As I' ve just gone about setting the tailplane pitch to factory spec's of
+12 Deg Up and -4 Deg down, I've got a little problem. I can get plenty of
pitch down but have cut the opening ( for the trim tab rod) all the way up
to the "joggle" where the top and bottom mate and am reluntant to go any
further until I check an see if this is normal. I would have to cut
approximately another 1/2" up into the Joggle to achieve 12 deg up. I' ve
got approx 11 deg up to the botton of the joggle. What has been the
experience of some of you that have been there before me.
>
> Al Stills
> A095
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
For those who followed my paint saga you'll be pleased to know that I am
now the proud owner of a very shiny Europa! The local glider painter
delivered it back yesterday afternoon and it looks absolutely stunning.
The wings are a smooth mirror finish without a single ripple across the
entire surface.
Once I wipe this grin off my face I can get on and finish the fitout.
Tony
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| Subject: | Europa adverts web pages |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <europa@nimbus.geog.ox.ac.uk>
Hi All,
Sorry for the long delay in getting the adverts web pages on my web site
sorted out, but I got my butt in gear and fixed it today. The adverts pages
were used quite a lot, but I had to change server from a rather slow Pentium
200 to something that is now serving about 15 sites and doing so quite
quickly!
I've had a couple of adverts emails to me recently and would appreciate it
if the senders of those adverts could try entering them via the site
(http://harley.pcl.ox.ac.uk/~mark/Europa/ads/) and let me know if there are
any problems.
As before, once an advert has been entered, it won't be shown until an email
has been sent to the email address you enter and the poster has confirmed
that email address is valid (an email will be sent with instructions).
Please feel free to place as many adverts as you like - but they must be
Europa related.
Cheers,
Mark.
(builder of kit 87, starting to feel better about life after discovering my
wings aren't as bad as I thought they were)
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| Subject: | Mounting 914 TCU box |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
The manual notes that the TCU is to be mounted vertically on the firewall.
In my case a horizontal position would be more suitable. Does anyone know
if there is an accellerometer or anything else inside that would preclude
mounting it horizontally? Is there a horizontal installation out there?
Thanks,
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa, AZ
(When is winter going to get here?!)
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Mounting 914 TCU box |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
The TCU only contains a microprocessor so you can mount it anywhere that
it'll be kept cool.
The 914 installation manual does not require vertical installation. All
it requires is mounting on its shock pads and not in the engine
compartment.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Mounting 914 TCU box |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
In a message dated 8/16/2003 2:28:28 PM Pacific Standard Time,
hagargs@earthlink.net writes:
> The manual notes that the TCU is to be mounted vertically on the firewall.
> In my case a horizontal position would be more suitable. Does anyone know
> if there is an accellerometer or anything else inside that would preclude
> mounting it horizontally? Is there a horizontal installation out there?
>
>
Mine is horizontal.
Dave
A227 Mini U2
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| Subject: | Mounting 914 TCU box |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Oh.. one more thing. The cables from the engine and the wastegate servo
need to able to reach it :)
Tony
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