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1. 02:31 AM - mono vs. trigear (Graham Singleton)
2. 08:04 AM - Email problems at the Lakeland, FL office (Europa Aircraft)
3. 08:22 AM - Trim Tab Slot Height dilemna?????????? (Fergus Kyle)
4. 03:01 PM - Re: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. (Ami McFadyean)
5. 03:34 PM - Monowheel Brake fluid? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
6. 03:50 PM - Re: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. (Rob Housman)
7. 03:55 PM - Re: mono vs. trigear (Joseph J. Like)
8. 05:09 PM - Wing Root Fairings (Jim Butcher)
9. 06:46 PM - Re: Wing Root Fairings (Steve Hagar)
10. 07:26 PM - Re: Wing Root Fairings (Paul McAllister)
11. 09:57 PM - Re: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. (R.C.Harrison)
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| Subject: | mono vs. trigear |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 19/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>From: "STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2" <garrys@att.com>
>Well said Bob. I've inquired of the factory as to possible "fixes" to
>the alignment problem, but they haven't come up with anything yet.
>Clearly the gear legs must be set with the A/C at average take off
>weight. Mine like yours, eats up tires, averaging about 60 hours per
>set. The only solution I can see is to buy a new set of gear legs,
>which I am loath to do.
>Garry V. Stout
I haven't read the tri gear manual so this is ALL guesswork but my
suggestion is to determine first, from those already completed and flying,
how much does the gear leg rotate from relaxed to fully loaded. The factory
should know this already, Neville would be the man to ask.
Next decide on the correct loaded toe in, I would guess 1/2 degree, but I
would lean towards zero because any deflection in or out will cause rolling
drag, tire wear etc. Ever noticed how some airplanes are harder to push
around than others? Especially noticeable on smooth polished floors. Again
take the best advice, Andy I suppose, he knows about EZs too so he's coming
from a good place!
Some of the EZ boys suggest an interesting test is to lift a wheel so it
relaxes then lower it gently and measure distance between the wheels, push
the airplane forward a few meters, measure again. It can be surpising how
much it changes. This is easier than measuring toe in. The only accurate
datum is the rim of the wheel, tires vary too much.
I would make a simple jig and fix a small laser to it, the kind the clips
onto your spirit level? then rig up a sight board 20 feet in front of the
airplane and calculate toe in from the distance between the spots and the
wheels.
Hope this helps
Graham
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| Subject: | Email problems at the Lakeland, FL office |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Hi all,
If you wish to contact the Lakeland, FL office please do not use email for
the next few weeks. I would suggest calling, or faxing instead. Our email
address is currently under attack from a computer, or computers infected
with the W32.Sobig.F@mm virus.
While the virus is not infecting our computer, we are receiving 100's of
emails an hour from the infected computer. It is becoming impossible to
sort through the garbage to find a real message.
Also, it is likely that someone from europaland has this virus on there
computer. I would ask that everyone please use a virus scanner (they are
cheap) or many of the free utilities on the web to remove any viruses from
your computer. In addition to making life miserable for everyone that your
computer is attacking, your computer is now being hacked by whoever wrote
this program. They have access to all your files, and personal info on your
machine. Many viruses are designed to harvest information for various fraud
schemes etc...
Protect yourself!!!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
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| Subject: | Trim Tab Slot Height dilemna?????????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Tony et al:
I had a quick look in passing, and guess my slots stop about 1/2" below the
joggle - and I have 13deg of travel. I can send all my calcs for this
exercise as I mathed the travel angles through from the trim motor.
Ferg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:35 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Trim Tab Slot Height dilemna??????????
>
>
> <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
> joining
> there
> botom
> of
> the
> aft at
manual
> will
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| Subject: | Re: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
These ones have 'Made in Taiwan' molded in. Or am I missing your point?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
>
> Don't malign the Taiwanese. Those el-cheapos come from the Peoples
Republic
> of China.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
> Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
> Airframe complete
> Irvine, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> I've had that problem (three times in a 500x5 wheels), but it wasn't a
fold
> in the tube nor obvious fretting. Probable cause was cheap, thin-walled
> Taiwanese tubes made of a not-very-recognisable type of rubber. Does
rubber
> fatigue-fail? I was also running at nominally 25 psi, but down to 20 psi.
>
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi! All.
> > Would all concerned advise me of any incidents of nose wheel puncture
that
> > didn't show damage within the tyre wall? ie:- if an item had penetrated
> the
> > rolling diameter or wall I don't want to know. But if the tube showed
> signs
> > of self fretting on a fold or pinch let me know because I'm looking at
> > statistics of the fact.
> >
> > Regards
> > Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Monowheel Brake fluid? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Can Dot 5 Silicon Brake fluid be used in an Europa Monowheel?
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
I must have been thinking of the inner tube I bought when I chopped the
first one full of holes the first time I joined the two halves of the nose
wheel. When I found out that a Goodyear TUBE would have cost me almost as
much as a new Michelin TIRE for my car, I bought the cheap stuff.
Fortunately I learned how to mount the wheel without damaging the tube.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
These ones have 'Made in Taiwan' molded in. Or am I missing your point?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
>
> Don't malign the Taiwanese. Those el-cheapos come from the Peoples
Republic
> of China.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
> Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
> Airframe complete
> Irvine, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> I've had that problem (three times in a 500x5 wheels), but it wasn't a
fold
> in the tube nor obvious fretting. Probable cause was cheap, thin-walled
> Taiwanese tubes made of a not-very-recognisable type of rubber. Does
rubber
> fatigue-fail? I was also running at nominally 25 psi, but down to 20 psi.
>
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi! All.
> > Would all concerned advise me of any incidents of nose wheel puncture
that
> > didn't show damage within the tyre wall? ie:- if an item had penetrated
> the
> > rolling diameter or wall I don't want to know. But if the tube showed
> signs
> > of self fretting on a fold or pinch let me know because I'm looking at
> > statistics of the fact.
> >
> > Regards
> > Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: mono vs. trigear |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Joseph J. Like" <josephlike@cox.net>
If I'm not mistaken Bob started with a mono wheel.
Kingsley Hurst wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
> Do not archive
>
> Bob Harrison wrote
> > Just for the record, although my a/c was constructed as main gear
> > "convertible", in spite of the tyre wear problem I can't envisage it ever
> > been used by me in the mono configuration!
>
> Go on Bob, be a devil mate, convert to a mono and let me know if you
> have any toe in problems !!
>
> Regards
> Kingsley Hurst
>
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| Subject: | Wing Root Fairings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Trying to install the factory fairings on XS wing. I find the fairings don't fit
very well - almost like the radius of the curve is too great which leaves a
large (10mm) gap between the fairing and the fuselage. Has anyone got a solution
or good way to fit these?
Thanks
Jim & Heather A185
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| Subject: | Wing Root Fairings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Jim:
That seems to be typical. Mine are like that also. If you are describing
the fact that the curve of the fairing stops at a point greater than
perpindicular to the wing surface. The edge of the fairing curves away from
the fuselage surface. I have them mounted on the wings with a gap present
at this point. The fix that has been mentioned as the "hot setup"so to
speak is to acquire a 2 X 4 and a heat gun. The plank is used to push the
fairing to the desired shape while the it is heated with the gun. The
fiberglass is supposed to soften and yield to the applied pressure. I
haven't tried this yet but 2 people have related this procedure to me.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa, AZ
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Butcher <europa@triton.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 8/20/03 5:16:45 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Wing Root Fairings
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Trying to install the factory fairings on XS wing. I find the fairings
don't fit very well - almost like the radius of the curve is too great
which leaves a large (10mm) gap between the fairing and the fuselage. Has
anyone got a solution or good way to fit these?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim & Heather A185
>
>
>
>
>
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Root Fairings |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Jim,
I had this problem and I ended up putting cuts on the side that bonds onto
the wing to allow it to move up close to the fuselage. I then reduxed it
and held it all in place with small self tapping screws which I removed
after the redux set. I latter put some bid along the whole thing to cover
the area that I put the slits in.
When you get to the final filling Neville gave me the tip of putting some
cloth on the transition between the fairing and the wing to stop the seam
line printing through your final finish. It worked, my wings are painted
and you cant see the transition at all.
Cheers, Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Wing Root Fairings
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> Trying to install the factory fairings on XS wing. I find the fairings
don't fit very well - almost like the radius of the curve is too great which
leaves a large (10mm) gap between the fairing and the fuselage. Has anyone
got a solution or good way to fit these?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim & Heather A185
>
>
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| Subject: | Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Rob.
Are you saying that you can actually get a Goodyear tube that fits the nose
wheel? If this is so please provide details and source? I'd prefer to change
mine since I'm convinced that the original tube I have is too large when
fitted correctly , on inflation the slight oversize of tube material has to
go somewhere resulting in small folds in the walls which flex and self wear.
The UK supplier agrees that there seems to be a problem ,having done a trial
assembly , but says there is no other source. BTW out of interest to other
"listers" my a/c although it has never flown with the mono system was
constructed to take either/or system of main gear.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rob Housman
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
I must have been thinking of the inner tube I bought when I chopped the
first one full of holes the first time I joined the two halves of the nose
wheel. When I found out that a Goodyear TUBE would have cost me almost as
much as a new Michelin TIRE for my car, I bought the cheap stuff.
Fortunately I learned how to mount the wheel without damaging the tube.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
These ones have 'Made in Taiwan' molded in. Or am I missing your point?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
>
> Don't malign the Taiwanese. Those el-cheapos come from the Peoples
Republic
> of China.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
> Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
> Airframe complete
> Irvine, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> I've had that problem (three times in a 500x5 wheels), but it wasn't a
fold
> in the tube nor obvious fretting. Probable cause was cheap, thin-walled
> Taiwanese tubes made of a not-very-recognisable type of rubber. Does
rubber
> fatigue-fail? I was also running at nominally 25 psi, but down to 20 psi.
>
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Trike Nose Wheel Tyre and tube.
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi! All.
> > Would all concerned advise me of any incidents of nose wheel puncture
that
> > didn't show damage within the tyre wall? ie:- if an item had penetrated
> the
> > rolling diameter or wall I don't want to know. But if the tube showed
> signs
> > of self fretting on a fold or pinch let me know because I'm looking at
> > statistics of the fact.
> >
> > Regards
> > Bob Harrison G-PTAG
> >
> >
>
>
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