Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/26/03


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 02:36 AM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
     2. 03:36 AM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (Gerry Holland)
     3. 08:03 AM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
     4. 09:02 AM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (Gerry Holland)
     5. 09:19 AM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (Jeff Roberts)
     6. 01:55 PM - Re: FW: Tail plane action (James H Nelson)
     7. 09:48 PM - Rivet Question (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:36:22 AM PST US
    Subject: FW: Tail plane action
    From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> >> Any chance you can weigh yours? 5.4kg ... and they're both the same :) Tony


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    Time: 03:36:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Tail plane action
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > 5.4kg ... and they're both the same :) Thanks Tony


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    Time: 08:03:03 AM PST US
    From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
    Subject: Re: FW: Tail plane action
    --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com In a message dated 8/25/2003 2:50:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gnholland@onetel.com writes: > Climbing in the back of the Fuselage to adjust, add weight, etc. is not my > idea of a good day! > One of the planes I saw at Flight Crafters (sorry, I don't remember who's it was) had glassed small blocks of wood on either side of the inside of the tail boom, just forward of the tower, at about the level of the seam between the top and bottom moldings. In the event you need to access doodads in the tail section, these blocks are used to temporarily hold a board horizontally across the inside of the tail boom. Another board is then laid between the access hole in the rear of the baggage bay and the horizontal board, providing a "scaffold" of sorts to allow access into the tail boom without laying on the pitch push-pull tube and rudder cables. This seemed like a good idea to make access into the tail boom easier with minimal weight penalty. Regards, John Lawton Dunlap, TN A-245


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    Time: 09:02:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Tail plane action
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > This seemed like a good idea to make access into the tail boom easier with > minimal weight penalty. > Good idea! Better idea is to keep out of that area! It all worked out and just confirmed that a few less pounds body weight wouldn't be a bad idea! Regards Gerry Gerry Holland Europa 384 G-FIZY +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com


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    Time: 09:19:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Tail plane action
    From: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net> on 8/26/03 11:01 AM, Gerry Holland at gnholland@onetel.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > >> >> This seemed like a good idea to make access into the tail boom easier with >> minimal weight penalty. >> > Good idea! Better idea is to keep out of that area! > > It all worked out and just confirmed that a few less pounds body weight > wouldn't be a bad idea! > > Regards > > Gerry > > Gerry Holland > Europa 384 > G-FIZY > +44 7808 402404 > gnholland@onetel.com > > > > > > Wow! What a neet idea to increase performance. Dr. Atkins here we come again. Jeff A258


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    Time: 01:55:21 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FW: Tail plane action
    From: James H Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson <europajim@juno.com> John, Did mine that way about three years or so ago. It provides the best way to get in the back either on your belly or back. I trimmed away a bit on each side near the cross board so when I was on my belly I could get my arms in a more vertical mode. The end which is in the cockpit has a vertical board that is cut to match the tunnel so the board doesn't move around. The board is adjusted in height to just clear the bottom of the "D" opening. Jim


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    Time: 09:48:45 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Rivet Question
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Hello again to all, I have been painstakingly pressing in the solid rivets (AN-470-AD4-10) into many of the aileron control rods. I know the magic 150% number that the finished "formed" head is supposed to be mashed to. But for the life of me the best I can get is .165" from a .125" (1/8")rivet. I even got a rivet squeezer from ACS to make sure it came out right. But I still get average .155". Now if I were simply riveting two pieces of flat metal together, I would know there is a problem. But here, it's four surfaces being spanned by the rivet (both sides of the tube and both sides of the rod end) with a hollow center. I'm sure that the rivet is also mushrooming inside that center. But how can that be prevented? What have other people gotten when they have done this? Am I gonna be drilling out lots of rivets in order to get these right? Damned this is fun! Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Trigear




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