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1. 02:12 AM - Re: Exhaust stub (Andy Draper)
2. 02:21 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (david joyce)
3. 02:41 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (Andy Draper)
4. 02:45 AM - RE : Another stupid question... (Auvray Michel)
5. 03:23 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (Gerry Holland)
6. 03:55 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (Nigel Graham)
7. 04:18 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (Gerry Holland)
8. 05:49 AM - Wheel Spats Re: Stone chip minimising????? (Tony Renshaw)
9. 05:58 AM - Re: Cowling-prop clearance (Andy Draper)
10. 06:17 AM - Re: Another stupid question... (Paul McAllister)
11. 08:30 AM - RE : Another stupid question... (Auvray Michel)
12. 11:56 AM - Re: Electrics (DaveBuzz@aol.com)
13. 12:04 PM - Re: Wheel Spats Re: Stone chip minimising????? (R.C.Harrison)
14. 01:06 PM - Re: RE : Another stupid question...(About epoxy reactions) (Stephan Cassel)
15. 01:33 PM - Re: fuel pumps (Ami McFadyean)
16. 02:20 PM - Resin on skin (Graham Singleton)
17. 02:55 PM - Prop decisions??? (Jeff Roberts)
18. 03:20 PM - Re: 1st Stupid Question... Alan (Rowland Carson)
19. 03:20 PM - Re: 1st Stupid Question (Rowland Carson)
20. 03:20 PM - Fw: Aeronauts & Aviators 1940's weekend 4/5th October (Rowland Carson)
21. 03:52 PM - Re: 1st Stupid Question... Alan (Alan)
22. 04:00 PM - Re: Resin on skin (Rob Housman)
23. 04:47 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 09/15/03 (Graham Singleton)
24. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 09/15/03 (n3eu@comcast.net)
25. 05:52 PM - reno air races (RK Hallett III)
26. 05:55 PM - Re: KISS Door Opener (RK Hallett III)
27. 06:16 PM - Re: KISS Door Opener (Peter Zutrauen)
28. 09:23 PM - Re: reno air races (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
29. 09:56 PM - Re: fuel pumps (RK Hallett III)
30. 10:56 PM - Re: fuel pumps (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust stub |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Dear Paul,
Rotax changed the 914 silencer length and, at the same time, altered the stub type
and size. I was aware of this back as far as Sun 'n' Fun this year only due
to spotting one of these silencers on an engine being displayed on the Kodiak
stand. It's taken until now to secure some dimensional information with which
to design a new tail pipe. The good news is that no welding will be required
this time, as the new version of stub is not tapered and also has the clamping
slots already in it
Any one out there who requires the new tail pipe, please would you make yourself
known to me, so that I can organise a list of those we need to supply. I have
put you on the list, Paul, and we'll do our best to expedite the supply.
Best Regards
Andy Draper
Technical Director
e-mail andy@europa-aircraft.com
>>> "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net> 12/09/03 21:37:44 >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
The 914 engine installation says to TIG weld a stub into the tapered silencer outlet
to allow the down pipe to clamped on. The silencer on my recently delivered
engine does not have a tapered outlet, rather a parallel sided on with 4 slits
on it. The piece of stub pipe is significantly smaller than the outlet and
will require a large amount of weld to fill the gap. In addition the slots in
the silencer outlet would appear to also need welding up as they are longer
than the stub. If this rambling means anything to anyone can you tell me if this
is a correct state of affairs.
Regards
Paul Stewart #432
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "david joyce" <davidjoyce@beeb.net>
When I was sorting out my cowlings I asked Neville or one of the other
technical wizzes at the Europa factory what is the minimum. I was told 2 to
3 mm. My cowling is set at 3mm all round, and has worked well for 150+hrs
with no sign of touching. It looks pleasing to the eye (at leasy to mine!)
and I suspect may help in aerodynamic terms to be that bit more airtight.
David Joyce, G-XSDJ----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Neils <RobNeils@aimcomm.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cowling-prop clearance
> --> Europa-List message posted by: RobNeils@aimcomm.com (Rob Neils)
>
>
> I asked:
> > > What is the minimal space needed between the back of the prop hub and
> the
> > > front of the cowling to insure clearance when yanking and banking?
> > >
>
> First answer:
>
> > The book calls for 5mm
>
> Has anyone experimented with less and found it to work?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
I should point out that the Engine Installation Manual has an error in the cowling
to spinner clearance dimension. The dimension that the front face of the
cowling should be behind the front of the prop flange is 25mm (1"), not 5mm as
stated. Apologies for the misleading information.
Best Regards
Andy Draper
Technical Director
e-mail andy@europa-aircraft.com
>>> Rob Neils <RobNeils@aimcomm.com> 14/09/03 16:19:13 >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: RobNeils@aimcomm.com (Rob Neils)
I asked:
> > What is the minimal space needed between the back of the prop hub and
the
> > front of the cowling to insure clearance when yanking and banking?
> >
First answer:
> The book calls for 5mm
Has anyone experimented with less and found it to work?
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| Subject: | Another stupid question... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Auvray Michel" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
There is no stupid questions only stupid peoples !!!
Hi all,
I used during 6 month a resin with bad protection, after this time my
organism made an extremely violent reaction. I have a respirator crisis
very hard during one month and after sometimes. To continue the resin
work in this period it is necessary for me to take a maximum protection
mainly on hands and on the face eyes and nose.
After investigations, no masks on the market are sufficient to protect
me.
I decided to design a special model with all of my requirements and 100%
protection without risks.
See the attached file.
Good luck and take care of your health.
Europa XS monowheel 145 >> 220 hours to day
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Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De=A0: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Fred R.
Klein
Envoy=E9=A0: lundi 15 septembre 2003 21:01
=C0=A0: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet=A0: Europa-List: Another stupid question...
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein"
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
Hi All,
I've appreciated the many thoughtful suggestions for proper tools and
protection from epoxy sensitivities under the "stupid question" topic
heading; however, in one of the postings, a trip to Costco was
recommended
for purchasing latex gloves.
My previous understanding has been that latex is not impervious to epoxy
and
that neoprene gloves were required for proper protection.
Any thoughts to confirm or dispell?
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Andy Hi!
> I should point out that the Engine Installation Manual has an error in the
> cowling to spinner clearance dimension. The dimension that the front face of
> the cowling should be behind the front of the prop flange is 25mm (1"), not
> 5mm as stated. Apologies for the misleading information.
1 Inch!! Are you sure. That seems an incredibly large gap, unsightly too!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Nigel Graham" <nigel_graham@btclick.com>
........25 mm is the distance to the front face of the prop flange - not
the back edge of the spinner, which comes back past the flange ;-)
Nigel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Holland" <gnholland@onetel.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cowling-prop clearance
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Andy Hi!
> I should point out that the Engine Installation Manual has an error in
the
> cowling to spinner clearance dimension. The dimension that the front
face of
> the cowling should be behind the front of the prop flange is 25mm
(1"), not
> 5mm as stated. Apologies for the misleading information.
1 Inch!! Are you sure. That seems an incredibly large gap, unsightly
too!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Nigel Hi and Thanks for clarification.
Regards
Gerry
>
> ........25 mm is the distance to the front face of the prop flange - not
> the back edge of the spinner, which comes back past the flange ;-)
>
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| Subject: | Wheel Spats re: Stone chip minimising????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am wondering with a conventional taildragger, if spats minimise or in
actual fact negate stone damage to flap undersides? Any experience out
there, because if I was to seriously consider a conventional undercarriage,
well the strip I operate from now is gravel, and the underside of my wing
of a conventional tricycle has a small amount of stone damage immediately
above the wheel, some 2' away at least.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Cowling-prop clearance |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi Gerry
The dimension refers to the distance to the front of the cowlings from behind the
front face of the prop flange. The spinner's rear terminates 20mm behind
the front face of the prop flange, resulting in a 5mm gap.
Regards
Andy
>>> Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> 16/09/03 11:22:42 >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Andy Hi!
> I should point out that the Engine Installation Manual has an error in the
> cowling to spinner clearance dimension. The dimension that the front face of
> the cowling should be behind the front of the prop flange is 25mm (1"), not
> 5mm as stated. Apologies for the misleading information.
1 Inch!! Are you sure. That seems an incredibly large gap, unsightly too!
Regards
Gerry
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| Subject: | Re: Another stupid question... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Michel,
I have been lucky and not faced any issues with resin until I stated using
West Systems Epoxy for mixing with my filler. That stuff immediately made
me cough badly at the slightest exposure.
This leads me to conclude that reactions to epoxy may be a combination of
physiology and a specific product. You might like to try a different brand.
If you are using SP systems, try Aeropoxy.
Paul
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| Subject: | Another stupid question... |
IN_REP_TO
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Auvray Michel" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
Thanks Paul,
But for me now my aircraft is in fly my information is for new builders.
My mask give a very good protection.
This is just information
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Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Paul
McAllister
Envoy: mardi 16 septembre 2003 15:17
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet: Re: Europa-List: Another stupid question...
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Michel,
I have been lucky and not faced any issues with resin until I stated
using
West Systems Epoxy for mixing with my filler. That stuff immediately
made
me cough badly at the slightest exposure.
This leads me to conclude that reactions to epoxy may be a combination
of
physiology and a specific product. You might like to try a different
brand.
If you are using SP systems, try Aeropoxy.
Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com
Steve, if you just want engine time then dont forget that various instruments offer
that function built in already, eg:
Arplast constant speed unit, possibly Airmaster CS unit, the EIS systems and Rotax
flytrap. I cant remember what you said you were fitting, but double check
and see if you can use something you already have first!
chus,
dave
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| Subject: | Wheel Spats re: Stone chip minimising????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Tony.
IMHO you need spats for stone and muck damage protection on trike or tail
dragger and I wouldn't dream of my prop. being anywhere near gravel
....patchy tarmac is bad enough.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw
Subject: Europa-List: Wheel Spats re: Stone chip minimising?????
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am wondering with a conventional taildragger, if spats minimise or in
actual fact negate stone damage to flap undersides? Any experience out
there, because if I was to seriously consider a conventional undercarriage,
well the strip I operate from now is gravel, and the underside of my wing
of a conventional tricycle has a small amount of stone damage immediately
above the wheel, some 2' away at least.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
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| Subject: | Another stupid question...(About epoxy reactions) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Stephan Cassel" <cassel@sensewave.com>
Hi builders,
I had serious problem with the epoxy when
I start the project, so I thought...
After about 8 month I could not stand it anymore.
My head was dark red (yes, like a tomato) but mainly where the mask
where
in contact with skin. Aha... The reactions may not be the
epoxy but the rubber in the protection mask. The
so called protection mask nearly "killed me".
I bought a thin balaclava (cotton) for my head and the problems was
completely gone when I had no direct contact with the mask.
I talked to my inspector (also builder) and he had exactly the problem.
My head is now back to normal (the colour I may add) and I can
work with epoxy without any problem.
Regards
Stephan
#556
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Auvray
Michel
Subject: RE : Europa-List: Another stupid question...
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Auvray Michel"
<m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
Thanks Paul,
But for me now my aircraft is in fly my information is for new builders.
My mask give a very good protection.
This is just information
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Michel AUVRAY
-----Message d'origine-----
De: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de Paul
McAllister
Envoy: mardi 16 septembre 2003 15:17
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet: Re: Europa-List: Another stupid question...
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Michel,
I have been lucky and not faced any issues with resin until I stated
using
West Systems Epoxy for mixing with my filler. That stuff immediately
made
me cough badly at the slightest exposure.
This leads me to conclude that reactions to epoxy may be a combination
of
physiology and a specific product. You might like to try a different
brand.
If you are using SP systems, try Aeropoxy.
Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
The Facet pumps are available ready-terminated with -6 AN male fittings.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: fuel pumps
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> I found Aeroquip -6 fuel line fit well over the fuel pumps "barbs" on the
> outlet side, with a hose clamp. Then AN fittings T back into one line,
> aluminum, to the firewall.
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of paul stewart
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: fuel pumps
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart"
> <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
>
> Have just taken delivery of engine (914) and FF kit. A couple of questions
> spring to mind (many more will follow I'm sure). I have been trying all
> along to replace the Europa standard fuel lines with aluminium line and AN
> or NPT fittings. It would appear that the fuel pumps supplied with the
> engine require rubber hose pushed over barba and secured with hose clamps
> (exactly what I'm trying to get away from). I know there are many out
there
> who are going the same way with fuel systems - anyone addressed it in
> relation to 914 fuel pumps. Also can't work out why I've also got a facet
> pump supplied by Europa.
>
> Any thoughts
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Stewart #432
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 14/09/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Which is why you use vinegar to clean resin off your skin because vinegar
>doens't make the resin penetrate your skin. It stinks, though, so it's best to
>
>not get resin on your skin to start with or people will think you work at a
>pickle factory. Use gloves.
>John Lawton
John
I don't think I would use vinegar either. Vinegar, (acetic acid) is water
soluble and water can pass through skin as easily as any other solvent, in
fact possibly easier.
Graham, nervous about chemistry!
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| Subject: | Prop decisions??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
Is anyone out there using or about to use the Ivoprop in flight adjustable
medium prop. It can be purchased for around $1750 and has an automatic
constant speed option for around $300 more. Some concerns are that the
electric brushes wear out fairly quick but the money difference could buy a
lot of brushes over the years. Also would like to hear from anyone using the
tapered Warp Drive fixed with angle compromises and performance numbers.
I have a 912S, (Thanks Paul) and it's time to start making that decision.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
A258 tri gear
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Stupid Question... Alan |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2003 09 15 16:25 +0100, Alan wrote:
>the ratio needed, 4-1 for Ampreg
>and 2-1 for Redux
I've been using 4:10 like it says in the Redux instructions ....
regards
Rowland
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| 630 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI
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| Subject: | 1st Stupid Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2003 09 15 08:10 +0100, Jeremy Davey wrote:
>I had the usual pump that comes from Michaels Engineering/Rook Metering and
>had horrendous problems
Not everyone has had these sort of problems with resin pumps. I
wouldn't be without mine, which is the same Michael Engineering
model, and has already built at least one Europa before I started
using it.
It's far from perfect - I can think of several improvements I would
make if I was going to make & market such a device. Switch from mild
steel pistons to stainless, for instance. And modify the geometry to
allow re-calibration without so much trial & error. I already changed
the moveable cylinder clamping arrangement which improved things
considerably. And I turned up a couple of little fruitwood caps for
the outlet pipes so they wouldn't clag up from exposure to the air
when left idle for too long. Another downside of the pump is that if
you want to switch from regular to slow (or fast) hardener, you need
to recalibrate as they are different densities.
The accuracy of pumps versus digital scales has been mentioned. You
should consider the absolute accuracy (dependent on linearity and
other things) as well as the resoluton of any digital scale. Work out
the possible error in measuring the mass of hardener and see if it
will achieve the required accuracy of ratio for small batches to give
the specified strength when cured. This has been discussed previously
on the list, so you should be able to find references to it - but I
can dig out the sums I did for my Ohaus digital scale if anyone wants
to see them.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Fwd: Aeronauts & Aviators 1940's weekend 4/5th October |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Just received this which may be of interest to UK fliers:
>Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:32:49 +0100 (BST)
>From: Duncan Skeels <aeronautsaviators@yahoo.co.uk>
>Subject: Aeronauts & Aviators 1940's weekend 4/5th October
>
>Hi,
>
>just an invitation to Rougham's annual AERONAUTS &
>AVIATORS 1940's weekend on the 4th & 5th of October.
>As with all our events this year there are no landing
>fees and a fun and nostalgic weekend is on the cards!
>
>Normal procedures apply just either e-mail me for PPR
>with type, reg, name etc and an ETA for either day.
>You can bring a tent and camp over! Alternatively you
>can call me on 07946-093599 on the day and I will do
>my best to fit you in!
>
>Look forward to seeing you at Rougham in October!
>
>all the best
>
>Duncan
>
>
>=====
>Duncan Skeels, Flying Display Organiser
>Rougham Airfield,Suffolk, UK. Pilots airfield info at:
>www.roughamairfield.org ALL general event info from Tel:
>01359-270238/info@roughamairfield.org
>Pilots E-mail:info@roughamairfield.org
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: 1st Stupid Question... Alan |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan" <aopd37@dsl.pipex.com>
> I've been using 4:10 like it says in the Redux instructions
I've just rechecked mine and the ratio is as you say 4:10 for Redux.
.....and the moral is if some one quotes a number check it's correct for
you!
Getting ready to put the top on
Alan
#303
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 1st Stupid Question... Alan
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2003 09 15 16:25 +0100, Alan wrote:
>
> >the ratio needed, 4-1 for Ampreg
> >and 2-1 for Redux
>
> I've been using 4:10 like it says in the Redux instructions ....
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Vinegar seems to react with the hardener to make it less of a skin irritant,
but it does tend to sting a bit when the skin is already damaged. I can
confirm from first hand experience that it works. The epoxy components are
not water soluble so it is not likely that vinegar can facilitate getting
epoxy below the skin's surface.
Here's what the manufacturer of Aeropoxy says:
SAFETY and HANDLING
PTM&W products are designed to offer the user high performance products with
minimum hazard potential w/hen properly used. Generally, PTM&W resins and
hardeners win present no handling problems if users exercise care to protect
the skin and eyes, and, if good ventilation is provided to the work areas.
However, all epoxy resins and hardeners can be irritating to the skin, and
prolonged contact may result in sensitization; and breathing of mist or
vapors may cause allergenic respiratory reaction, especially in highly
sensitive individuals. As such, avoid contact with eyes and skin, and avoid
breathing vapors.
Wear protective rubber apron, clothing, gloves, face shield or other items
as required to prevent contact with the skin. In case of skin contact,
immediately wash with soap and water, followed by a rinse of the area with
vinegar, and then a further wash with soap and water. The vinegar will
neutralize the hardener and lessen the chances of long term effects. Use
goggles, a face shield, safety glasses or other items as required to prevent
contact with the eyes. If material gets into the eyes, immediately flush
with water for at least 15 minutes and call a physician,
For additional details go to
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/ccanedy/aeropoxy_main.html
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graham Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: Resin on skin
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 14/09/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>Which is why you use vinegar to clean resin off your skin because vinegar
>doens't make the resin penetrate your skin. It stinks, though, so it's best
to
>
>not get resin on your skin to start with or people will think you work at a
>pickle factory. Use gloves.
>John Lawton
John
I don't think I would use vinegar either. Vinegar, (acetic acid) is water
soluble and water can pass through skin as easily as any other solvent, in
fact possibly easier.
Graham, nervous about chemistry!
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 09/15/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 15/09/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>The scale may be crude but it works and can be very accurate, doesn't clog
>with resin or run out of batteries and is easy to make from scrap wood and
>perspex from the workshop.
>
>I've used a home made device for all my build including wings.
The best scale design I've seen is the one by "Blondie" ie Neville. The
problem with the original Burt Rutan (God) scale is that there is a
variable, the resin left in the bottom of the cup when you pour from one
cup to the other. The error can be reduced by pouring resin into hardener,
(not the reverse) but there's still an uncontrolled variable. Nev's
variation fixes this.
BTW I have only just realised that there are now two "Blondies" at Europa,
and the other one has a lovely smile!
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 09/15/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
Graham Singleton wrote:
> The best scale design I've seen is the one by "Blondie" ie Neville. The
> problem with the original Burt Rutan (God) scale is that there is a
> variable, the resin left in the bottom of the cup when you pour from one
> cup to the other. The error can be reduced by pouring resin into hardener,
> (not the reverse) but there's still an uncontrolled variable.
A trick around that is to pour the stirred mix back into the almost empty cup
and stir again.
Regards,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
Just wanted to thank Dan Bish, Kevin Klinefelter and Erich Trombley for the great
Europa visit at the Air Races. We had a great visit and the input on my a/c
was greatly appreciated. I had a thought that next year we try and get at least
the West Coasters to all come to the races and turn it into a EuropaFest.
Dave I'm sorry I forgot to let you in on our impromptu to get together.
Thoughts? Mike Duane, Terry et al?
Ralph
Europa MG to be...
Reno, NV
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| Subject: | Re: KISS Door Opener |
QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES
--> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
You may be on to something. I too was trying to get away from the pressure
strut.
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: "CHUCK RHOADS" <cfrhoads@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: KISS Door Opener
> --> Europa-List message posted by: CHUCK RHOADS <cfrhoads@yahoo.com>
>
> I am using a KISS "keep it simple stupid" door opener device. As you can
see from the listed web site: it is very cheap, fast & easy to install.
Since it is some distance from the hinge it puts less pressure on the hinge
as well as the door when open & no pressure when the door is closed. These
are for folding legs on card tables and available from most hardware stores.
>
> Chuck Rhoads A100
> Trike
>
> http://www.geocities.com/rhoadss/europa_door.jpg
>
>
> Chuck Rhoads
> cfrhoads@yahoo.com
> (270) 788-9366
> Rte 2 Box 73C
> Hardinsburg, Ky 40143
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | KISS Door Opener |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
A nice light and low-stress solution, the only risk (as already
mentioned previously in the archives) is that the door could potentially
slam down on unsuspecting fingers if not closed in a controlled manor.
I'm curious to see what the factory is going to offer in their retrofit.
Cheers,
Pete
A239
-----Original Message-----
From: RK Hallett III [mailto:n100rh@sbcglobal.net]
Subject: Re: Europa-List: KISS Door Opener
--> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III"
<n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
You may be on to something. I too was trying to get away from the
pressure
strut.
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: "CHUCK RHOADS" <cfrhoads@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: KISS Door Opener
> --> Europa-List message posted by: CHUCK RHOADS <cfrhoads@yahoo.com>
>
> I am using a KISS "keep it simple stupid" door opener device. As you
can
see from the listed web site: it is very cheap, fast & easy to install.
Since it is some distance from the hinge it puts less pressure on the
hinge
as well as the door when open & no pressure when the door is closed.
These
are for folding legs on card tables and available from most hardware
stores.
>
> Chuck Rhoads A100
> Trike
>
> http://www.geocities.com/rhoadss/europa_door.jpg
>
>
> Chuck Rhoads
> cfrhoads@yahoo.com
> (270) 788-9366
> Rte 2 Box 73C
> Hardinsburg, Ky 40143
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: reno air races |
NO_REAL_NAME@matronics.com
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Ralph,
I'm always ready to accept any invitation to go to a party and talk/compare
aircraft. I hope we do get together next year.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Trigear
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
But, are they up to the demands of the 914? I really would like to avoid
any slip on fuel lines in the same space where I sit.
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pumps
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> The Facet pumps are available ready-terminated with -6 AN male fittings.
>
> Duncan McF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: fuel pumps
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> >
> > I found Aeroquip -6 fuel line fit well over the fuel pumps "barbs" on
the
> > outlet side, with a hose clamp. Then AN fittings T back into one line,
> > aluminum, to the firewall.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of paul stewart
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: fuel pumps
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart"
> > <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
> >
> > Have just taken delivery of engine (914) and FF kit. A couple of
questions
> > spring to mind (many more will follow I'm sure). I have been trying all
> > along to replace the Europa standard fuel lines with aluminium line and
AN
> > or NPT fittings. It would appear that the fuel pumps supplied with the
> > engine require rubber hose pushed over barba and secured with hose
clamps
> > (exactly what I'm trying to get away from). I know there are many out
> there
> > who are going the same way with fuel systems - anyone addressed it in
> > relation to 914 fuel pumps. Also can't work out why I've also got a
facet
> > pump supplied by Europa.
> >
> > Any thoughts
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul Stewart #432
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> But, are they up to the demands of the 914? I really would like to
avoid
any slip on fuel lines in the same space where I sit.
The rotax supplied 914 pumps have 8mm inlets and 12mm outlets and you'll
need a down converter and 8mm (5/16") ID hose for the rest.
Tony
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