---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/24/03: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:00 AM - Re: Two Quick Questions (Jeff Roberts) 2. 07:21 AM - Re: Two Quick Questions (n3eu@comcast.net) 3. 07:34 AM - Re: Two Quick Questions (Rob Housman) 4. 08:59 AM - Re: Two Quick Questions (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 5. 09:37 PM - Airport Lot for Sale / Trade for Europa XS (Steven B. Janicki) 6. 09:44 PM - Re: Fuel flow measurement for 914 (Gerald Rehn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Two Quick Questions From: Jeff Roberts --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts on 9/24/03 1:11 AM, R.C.Harrison at ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" > > Hi! Mike. > The cables run under the pulleys and they need a packer sliding under to fit > close but not touch thepulley to ensure the cable doesn't jump off. You also > need to insert the harness bolts prior to fitting the pulley and washer pack > the pulleys inboard to ensure they rotate without hitting the bolt heads. > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > PS Can't help on the dissimilar metals problem. > > > > > > Mike, I also put the rudder cables into conduit from the firewall to the pullies. That way you don't have to worry about any rubbing anywhere. You can redux them to the front and back areas. Jeff A258 Tri ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:37 AM PST US From: n3eu@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Two Quick Questions --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote: > > For the experts in this field......Would there be a dissimilar metals > problem if I used brass fittings along with my aluminum ones in the > fuel system? A handy chart I have rates metals from anodic (top) to cathodic (bottom) as follows: Magnesium Zinc Aluminum alloys Cadmium Steel Lead Chromium Brass/bronze Copper Stainless steel Silver Nickel Graphite composite Cadmium plated AN hardware is very near aluminum alloy and not coincidental it is so plated. Stainless steel is further apart from aluminum than brass, but I've yet to notice serious corrosion after many years of intimate contact. Ditto for aluminum fittings on steel elbows, which should be steel if attached to a vibrating engine. It's really just a maintenance issue, since in enough years it may leak or be damaged if disconnected. Regards, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:51 AM PST US From: "Rob Housman" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Two Quick Questions --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" For Part !, the short answer is: don't worry about it. The slightly longer answer is: in order for corrosion to occur there must be an electrolyte present in addition to the dissimilar metals. On the fuel side, barring the presence of water in the fuel, there is no electrolyte (gasoline and Jet A being non-ionic liquids) so there is little risk of corrosion. On the exterior, where moisture laden air can be the electrolyte, corrosion may occur, but it will not do much damage and certainly won't do any damage quickly. A visual check during the annual inspection will confirm that neither the fittings nor the pump is dissolving. In this combination, Al vs. Cu, the Al will "protect" the Cu from corrosion (meaning that the Al will be attacked, not the Cu), just as Sir Humphrey Davy's innovative use of iron anodes protected His Majesty's copper-clad ship hulls from corrosion beginning in the early 19th Century. More details at http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/AnodProtect/Frames.htm For Part 2, the rudder cables run UNDER the pulleys. Best regards, Rob Housman Europa XS Tri-Gear A070 Airframe complete Irvine, CA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Two Quick Questions --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com For the experts in this field......Would there be a dissimilar metals problem if I used brass fittings along with my aluminum ones in the fuel system? And I am running these fuel lines and want to avoid an interference problem later on with the rudder cables running down the center of the cockpit module. Does the cable from the rudder pedals run under the pulley between the pulley and the bottom skin or on top of the pulley between the pulley and those two small inspection holes next to the seats? Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Trigear (?) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:59:34 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Two Quick Questions --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Do Not Archive Thanks to all for the help. This Forum is worth the $ we all put into it. I posed these questions last night before bed and when I wake up I have the answers to continue to work. At this rate I'll never have any time to catch up on the latest movies. ;-) Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Trigear (?) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:27 PM PST US From: "Steven B. Janicki" Subject: Europa-List: Airport Lot for Sale / Trade for Europa XS --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven B. Janicki" Hello, I have a airpark lot located at Lake California 68CA, www.lakecalifornia.com that I would like to sell/trade for a Europa XS Tri-Gear kit (preferably fast build options and little to no work completed). My lot is valued at $35k which is the equivalent to a XS Tri-Gear with fast build options. Lake California is a gated community located just south of Redding California. Please see the above web site for full details on the airpark and community and send me an e-mail directly if you have further questions. Regards, Steven Regards, Steven --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel flow measurement for 914 From: Gerald Rehn --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerald Rehn on 9/19/03 6:58 PM, Paul McAllister at paul.mcallister@qia.net wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > Hi all, > > I have a Grand Rapids EIS with the fuel flow option and I doubt if it will > work in its current configuration. The 914 has an integrated manifold for > fuel in and fuel return. I can see no way of measuring flow without having to > compensate to the return flow. Has anyone had any experience using the EIS > system and there fuel flow sensor on a 914 installation ? > > Thanks & regards, > > Paul > > > > > > Paul, I have the EIS and you need two transducers, one for the fuel in and fuel out. Grand Rapids will set up your unit to properly measure the difference. It takes a little time to calibrate but is very accurate. Regards, Jerry