Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 10/04/03


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 01:58 AM -  (Gerry Holland)
     2. 02:08 AM - Option to Purchase WAM-120 Number 23 (Graham Singleton)
     3. 03:00 AM - Bon jour! Graham (Gerry Holland)
     4. 07:39 AM - Re: hanging fuselage from wood frame (Fergus Kyle)
     5. 08:33 AM - Terra TRT250D transponder (Peter Grant)
     6. 09:24 AM - Wing tie downs (Steven Pitt)
     7. 09:30 AM - Flight Planner (Cliff Shaw)
     8. 10:16 AM - Re: Wing tie downs (ivor.phillips)
     9. 12:46 PM - Re: Wing tie downs (KARL HEINDL)
    10. 01:21 PM - Re: Flight Planner (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
    11. 02:21 PM - Oil Hoses (Paul McAllister)
    12. 02:39 PM - 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer (Steve Hagar)
    13. 03:07 PM - Re: Flight Planner (Cliff Shaw)
    14. 03:10 PM - Re: Oil Hoses (Steve Hagar)
    15. 03:17 PM - Re: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer (Paul McAllister)
    16. 05:52 PM - Fitting wings to fuse (Alan Stills)
    17. 07:47 PM - 914 plumbing (Fergus Kyle)
    18. 09:02 PM - Re: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
    19. 09:05 PM - Re: Oil Hoses (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
    20. 09:09 PM - Re: Fitting wings to fuse (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
    21. 10:09 PM - hanging fuse (RK Hallett III)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:58:37 AM PST US
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> I have a unused Rocky Mountain Encoder with Remote Compass for Sale. As I have now fitted an EFIS to my panel the Encoder is surplus and an overkill. Triple redundancy for VFR flight is probably 'over the top'! The Unit was factory Built and calibrated and includes Remote Compass Unit & OAT and associated Wiring. All Manuals and Documentation included. The Factory price is $1479.00 US. I'm asking $1000.00 or 625 If anyone is interested give me a call on +44 1761 433073 or +44 7808 402404 Or reply to: gnholland@onetel.com Gerry Holland


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    Time: 02:08:29 AM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Option to Purchase WAM-120 Number 23
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> --=======499428CC======= At 23:56 03/10/2003 -0700, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Auvray Michel" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com> >Salut Jean, >Est-ce une relle alternative au 912S bien que je n'ai pas de projets >immdiats il faut dabord que j'use le mien!! >Michel AUVRAY Salut Michel et Jean Malheureusement vous parlez un peut trop vite pour nous Anglais!! Jnai pas compris bien {{:-)> Graham --=======499428CC======= --- --=======499428CC=======--


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    Time: 03:00:44 AM PST US
    Subject: Bon jour! Graham
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Graham Salut! Le petit djeuner tait aujourd'hui de Croissants et Caf? J'ai mis pense que vous avez reu le message d'anglais seulement. Dshonorer sur vous! Meilleurs souhaits Salutation Cordiale! Gerry Now cut it out!!!! Au Revior! > > Salut Michel et Jean > Malheureusement vous parlez un peut trop vite pour nous Anglais!! Jnai pas > compris bien {{:-)> > Graham >


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    Time: 07:39:06 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Re: hanging fuselage from wood frame
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Europa-List: hanging fuselage from wood frame | --> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> | Simple question, what size of bolts/other did you all use to fix the | fuse to the support frame. I've been using straps up to this point, but | want to firm things up before doing the wing to fuselage "thing". | Did you just drill a hole and hang it or what?| Thanks in advance.| Ralph MG in Reno, NV | | <HTML><HEAD> | <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" nameGENERATOR> | <STYLE></STYLE> | </HEAD> | <BODY bgColor#ffffff> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Simple question, what size of | bolts/other did you | all use to fix the fuse to the support frame.&nbsp; I've been using | straps up to | this point, but want to firm things up before doing the wing to fuselage | | "thing".</FONT></DIV> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Did you just drill a hole and hang it | or | what?</FONT></DIV> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks in advance.</FONT></DIV> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Ralph</FONT></DIV> | <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>MG in Reno, | NV</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> Ralph, I built a frame from original drawing, but found dimensions wrong because my Classic Fuze had an :XS" cockpit stuck in it - but presume you are all 'aligned' as to model. According to previous archive and my experience the minimum bolt size must be 3/8" or greater because the weight drags the holes and tears develop in skin, particularly at back. Either plaster 1/4" or better plywood or similar backing onto the interior wall or use increased size tubing to support the raw holes to prevent ripping. Suggest check through archives if not already done. I did three things - [1] epoxied support plates into interior walls per above, [2]drilled corners to take heavy castors, and [3] drilled and tapped for 1/2"x13tpi threaded rod plus hardware so I could screw rod down to floor, lifting castors, and so firm up a horizontal frame for rigging various parts which demand alignment (rear pitch axle, wing mounts etc). Good luck Ferg Europa A064


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    Time: 08:33:51 AM PST US
    From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
    Subject: Terra TRT250D transponder
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk> Our unit is confirmed beyond economical repair, so if anyone has one to sell please let me know! Regards Peter Grant +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 522605 Mobile: 07774 923160 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This email is intended for the sole use of the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. We accept no liability for misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked by Norton Anti-Virus.


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    Time: 09:24:45 AM PST US
    From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Wing tie downs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt@btinternet.com> I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not too distant future and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled outboard of the flaps to be used as tie down points. Does anyone have any mods/news please? Steve Pitt #403 <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size2>I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not too distant future and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled outboard of the flaps to be used as tie down points.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size2>Does anyone have any mods/news please?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>Steve Pitt #403</DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 09:30:13 AM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Flight Planner
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> USA flyers Last night at our pilots association meeting the program was a demonstration of a home computer program the is terrific. It does the best job of flight planning I have ever seen. Look at it free for 21 day with a CD of a download at http://www.seattleavionics.com/default.asp They were at Oshkosh this summer and really caught on. Sorry for the majority of you flyers in other places, only USA and Canada. The price quoted last night was 1/2 off. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds WA 98020 (425) 776-5555 N229WC "Wile E Coyote" New Email:" flyinggpa@comcast.net "


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    Time: 10:16:10 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing tie downs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Hi Steve I obtained some 2 inch aluminium angle , this fits perfectly between the two central ribs uptight to the central spar, this was tapped to take a screw eye for the tie down, the screw eye is remove for flight, and a small plastic plug to seal the opening in the lower wing is used, I used two extra plies of uni between the lower wing skin and the ali angle, with two plies above to the central ribs very little extra weight is added for the security of decent tie downs, Ivor Phillips 486XS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt@btinternet.com> Subject: Europa-List: Wing tie downs > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt@btinternet.com> > > > I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not too distant future > and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled > outboard of the flaps to be used as tie down points. > Does anyone have any mods/news please? > Steve Pitt #403 > > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" nameGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT size2>I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not > too distant > future and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled > outboard > of the flaps to be used as tie down points.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size2>Does anyone have any mods/news please?</FONT></DIV> > <DIV>Steve Pitt #403</DIV></BODY></HTML> > >


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    Time: 12:46:12 PM PST US
    From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Wing tie downs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Hi Steve, I used heavy duty aluminium eyebolts with 8mm threaded bolt from a Chandlers shop , where they sell all kinds of goodies for boating people. I installed mine near the inspection hatches and one in the tail. But if I had to do it again I would get two outboard ribs from Europa to make a double last rib, then install a U-shaped stainless steel or alu bracket between the ribs, well secured with bid layups, and attach it to that bracket with just the 'eye' poking out the bottom. Don't attach them to the spars. Should have been part of the kit, as the cost is peanuts, and is an essential item. I see other Europa owners tying down on the flap brackets, which is not a good idea. The forces of a strong sidewind are least at the wing tips. Don't forget PFA approval. Cheers, Karl >From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt@btinternet.com> >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Europa-List: Wing tie downs >Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 17:22:47 +0100 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" ><steven.pitt@btinternet.com> > > >I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not too distant future >and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled >outboard of the flaps to be used as tie down points. >Does anyone have any mods/news please? >Steve Pitt #403 > > ><HTML><HEAD> ><META content"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" nameGENERATOR> ><STYLE></STYLE> ></HEAD> ><BODY bgColor#ffffff> ><DIV><FONT size2>I will be closing my wings (XS Trigear) in the not >too distant >future and would appreciate any news on the extra plates to be instaled >outboard >of the flaps to be used as tie down points.</FONT></DIV> ><DIV><FONT size2>Does anyone have any mods/news please?</FONT></DIV> ><DIV>Steve Pitt #403</DIV></BODY></HTML> > >


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    Time: 01:21:37 PM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Flight Planner
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Hi Cliff, I've checked out the software and it does seem rather nice. It also appears reasonably priced at $198/US with updates every 28 days and yearly subscription for these updates at $99/year/US. Question? Do you have a coupon code to share? What sort of price break does it offer you? Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT SIZE2 FAMILY"SANSSERIF" FACE= "Arial" LANG"0">Hi Cliff,<BR> <BR> I've checked out the software and it does seem rather nice. It also appears=20= reasonably priced at $198/US with updates every 28 days and yearly subscript= ion for these updates at $99/year/US.<BR> <BR> Question? Do you have a coupon code to share? What sort of price break does=20= it offer you?<BR> <BR> Mike Duane A207<BR> Redding, California<BR> XS Conventional Gear</FONT></HTML>


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    Time: 02:21:54 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Oil Hoses
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I am in the process of installing the hoses from the oil tank to the engine on my 914. It occurred to me that steel braided hose such as Aeroquip 666 would do well in the high heat environment, however the barbs on the oil tank are 12 mm not 1/2". Any idea where I can get a hose like this with 12 mm bore? Anyone have any best practices to share out installing these oil lines as far as heat protection, routing or hose type is concerned. Thanks, Paul <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2730.1700" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I am in the process of installing the hoses from the oil tank to the engine on my 914.&nbsp; It occurred to me that steel braided hose such as Aeroquip 666 would do well in the high heat environment, however the barbs on the oil tank are 12 mm not 1/2".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Any idea where I can get a hose like this with 12 mm bore?&nbsp; Anyone have any best practices to share out installing these oil lines as far as heat protection, routing or hose type is concerned.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks,&nbsp; Paul</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 02:39:12 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Lately now every day is a new adventure. I have started doing electrical busses and engine instruments. The Rocky Mountain micromonitor that I am using comes with a nice VDO fuel pressure transducer that looks like the oil pressure tranducer that comes with the engine. The port is a 1/8 NPT. While fretting over having to a "T" into my nicely configured aircraft fitting configured fuel line with some barbed fittings I noted that my mini-Andair gascolator under the baggage bay has a: Low and behold! extra 1/8 NPT fitting on the top of it! Just the thing to plug the pressure transducer into, I believe that is. Is this port on the gascolator subject to the full fuel pressure? It is downstream of both pumps. I would note that the pressure here under the baggage bay next to the pumps is going to be quantitatively higher (head losses)than at the fuel pressure regulator. However for monitoring purposes this would offer preflight checks as to the integrety of each pump and well as if a pump is starting to get flakey by delivering erratic pressure. What positions have others put the fuel pressure sender in? Is any one going to the Copperstate Fly in Next Week. If so look me up I'm in the neighborhood. Steve Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ --- Steve Hagar --- hagargs@earthlink.net


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    Time: 03:07:02 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight Planner
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> All USA flyers Yes! I have a coupon code. It was intended for the Washington Pilots Association. With it the price is half. I suggest you ask them by phoning them on Monday for the same deal. Tell them you heard it from me, bragging about the demonstration Friday night. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds WA 98020 (425) 776-5555 N229WC "Wile E Coyote" New Email:" flyinggpa@comcast.net " ----- Original Message ----- From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flight Planner > --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com > > > Hi Cliff, > > I've checked out the software and it does seem rather nice. It also appears > reasonably priced at $198/US with updates every 28 days and yearly subscription > for these updates at $99/year/US. > > Question? Do you have a coupon code to share? What sort of price break does > it offer you? > > Mike Duane A207 > Redding, California > XS Conventional Gear > > > <HTML><FONT FACEarial,helvetica><FONT SIZE2 FAMILY"SANSSERIF" FACE= > "Arial" LANG"0">Hi Cliff,<BR> > <BR> > I've checked out the software and it does seem rather nice. It also appears=20= > reasonably priced at $198/US with updates every 28 days and yearly subscript= > ion for these updates at $99/year/US.<BR> > <BR> > Question? Do you have a coupon code to share? What sort of price break does=20= > it offer you?<BR> > <BR> > Mike Duane A207<BR> > Redding, California<BR> > XS Conventional Gear</FONT></HTML> > >


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    Time: 03:10:40 PM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Oil Hoses
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Paul: The metric hose fitting are a real pain in the butt. I just finished this recently. I'tell you what I did however I don't know if it will be the hot setup (or cold setup depending on your outlook}. On the oil line on the bottom of the engine I didn't route it as noted in the book. I rotated the banjo connection around so the line came up around the port side instead of being bunched together under the cylinders with the other line. I installed an aluminized corregated insulated heat shield tubing around this oil line. The aluminum reflects the radiant heat. The tubing is 1.5" in diameter and squishes where need be. The extra diameter gives a good air gap between the outside of the stock oil line and the inside of the insulation tube. I got this stuff from the guys over at Phoenix Composits. I believe it is either the Thermoflex or Thermosleeve that is in the exhaust insulating section of the Spruce catalog. They are building a Europa using this stuff. The length I used was from the banjo bolt to where the line goes through the engine mount ring. The large oil line from the oil pump is routed as instructed and coverd with this insulation where it passes under the cylinders. It is safety wired in place so it doesn't move around. The turbo return oil line is routed differently than instructed. I used the braided line as supplied in the FF kit as fuel line. This was passed up over the front of the engine and clamped with an Adel clamp to a prop gearbox mount bolt. This was then routed over the top of the cylinders in the cool air flow before the air flows down through the fins. The oil tank vent line is also the steel braided gas line. I routed this down to the air box so the air filter supposedly picks up the oil mist. The line to the heat exchanger is the normal supplied oil line routed strait down. I also made 2 stainless steel sheet shielding fins down below. These are attached to the 2 side mounts for the heat exchanger duct. The left one is between the back of the muffler and where the 2 hoses go into the heat exchangers and the right one is behind the turbocharger and in front of the other 2 hoses. Steve Hagar A143 Mesa,AZ > [Original Message] > From: Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Date: 10/4/03 2:21:17 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Oil Hoses > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > > Hi all, > > I am in the process of installing the hoses from the oil tank to the > engine on my 914. It occurred to me that steel braided hose such as > Aeroquip 666 would do well in the high heat environment, however the > barbs on the oil tank are 12 mm not 1/2". > > Any idea where I can get a hose like this with 12 mm bore? Anyone have > any best practices to share out installing these oil lines as far as > heat protection, routing or hose type is concerned. > > Thanks, Paul > > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2730.1700" nameGENERATOR> > <STYLE></STYLE> > </HEAD> > <BODY bgColor#ffffff> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Hi all,</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I am in the process of installing the > hoses from > the oil tank to the engine on my 914.&nbsp; It occurred to me that steel > braided > hose such as Aeroquip 666 would do well in the high heat environment, > however > the barbs on the oil tank are 12 mm not 1/2".</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Any idea where I can get a hose like > this with 12 > mm bore?&nbsp; Anyone have any best practices to share out installing > these oil > lines as far as heat protection, routing or hose type is > concerned.</FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> > <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks,&nbsp; > Paul</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> > > > > > --- Steve Hagar --- hagargs@earthlink.net


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    Time: 03:17:29 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Steve, The rotax install manual suggests that you get a second banjo fitting and a longer bolt. They recommend that this be put inline with the hose going off to the carburetor and to put the pressure transducer on the end of the second banjo. Can you tell me the VDO part number that is on your transducer as I need to purchase one as well. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Subject: Europa-List: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> > > Lately now every day is a new adventure. I have started doing electrical > busses and engine instruments. The Rocky Mountain micromonitor that I am > using comes with a nice > VDO fuel pressure transducer that looks like the oil pressure tranducer > that comes with the engine. The port is a 1/8 NPT. While fretting over > having to a "T" into my nicely configured aircraft fitting configured fuel > line with some barbed fittings I noted that my mini-Andair gascolator under > the baggage bay has a: Low and behold! extra 1/8 NPT fitting on the top of > it! Just the thing to plug the pressure transducer into, I believe that is. > Is this port on the gascolator subject to the full fuel pressure? It is > downstream of both pumps. I would note that the pressure here under the > baggage bay next to the pumps is going to be quantitatively higher (head > losses)than at the fuel pressure regulator. However for monitoring purposes > this would offer preflight checks as to the integrety of each pump and well > as if a pump is starting to get flakey by delivering erratic pressure. > What positions have others put the fuel pressure sender in? > > Is any one going to the Copperstate Fly in Next Week. If so look me up I'm > in the neighborhood. > > Steve Hagar > A143 > Mesa, AZ > > > --- Steve Hagar > --- hagargs@earthlink.net > >


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    Time: 05:52:32 PM PST US
    From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Fitting wings to fuse
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net> I fitted the wing to the fuselage for the first time today. It really gets exciting when you are seeing progress. I have a question for you "old salts" that have been there before. After I pinned the wings onto the fuse, I have a 1/2" gap on one wing and 3/4" on the other. The front pins "just' touch the fuse and the rear pins are at least 3/8" away from the fuse. Since the inside pip pins are right on....I can't quite figure out what is wrong. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so what's the fix? OR any guidance will be appreciated. BYW......I will be at Copperstate fly in next weekend also. Al Stills A095 <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1226" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>I fitted the wing to the fuselage for the first time today. It really gets exciting when you are seeing progress. I have a question for you "old salts" that have been there before. After I pinned the wings onto the fuse, I have&nbsp; a 1/2" gap on one wing and 3/4" on the other. The front pins "just' touch the fuse and the rear pins are at least 3/8" away from the fuse. Since the inside pip pins are right on....I can't quite figure out what is wrong. Has anyone else had this problem, and if so what's the fix? OR any guidance will be appreciated.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>BYW......I will be at Copperstate fly in next weekend also.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Al Stills</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>A095</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>


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    Time: 07:47:40 PM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: 914 plumbing
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca> "Steve, The rotax install manual suggests that you get a second banjo fitting and a longer bolt. They recommend that this be put inline with the hose going off to the carburetor and to put the pressure transducer on the end of the second banjo. Can you tell me the VDO part number that is on your transducer as I need to purchase one as well. Paul" Lads, I am in the process of specifying the details of my 914 order. I note that because we are talking Austrian, some fittings are metric. I am using 3/8" alu tubing [-6] and wonder if I can transfer to metric easily, or if I can specify oiltank, fuel lines and any other fitting to be -6 qualified? All comers welcome. Ferg Europa A064


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    Time: 09:02:19 PM PST US
    Subject: 914 Fuel Pressure Tranducer
    From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> >> Can you tell me the VDO part number that is on your transducer as I need to purchase one as well. Is a pressure transducer necessary or would a pressure switch be better in this case? It's not the sort of thing that you need to monitor constantly but it'd be good to know when the pressure drops below optimum. Tony name="winmail.dat" eJ8+IjgDAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEALQAAAFJFOiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDog OTE0IEZ1ZWwgUHJlc3N1cmUgVHJhbmR1Y2VyAAsPAQWAAwAOAAAA0wcKAAUAEAA7ADIAAABmAQEg gAMADgAAANMHCgAFABAAOwA3AAAAawEBCYABACEAAAA0MTdBMENDNzIyMTExOTQ2QjlBQTk1NzlF QTU2ODQ4MQAFBwEDkAYAfAgAADYAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQBIuS8g9YrDAR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJF OiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAtAAAAYz11czthPSA7cD1LQU9OO2w9TkVVVFJJTk8tMDMxMDA1MDM1OTUw Wi03MzUAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAAtAAAAUmU6IEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiA5MTQgRnVlbCBQcmVzc3VyZSBU cmFuZHVjZXIAAAAAQABOAADUz+LEisMBHgBaAAEAAAAQAAAAUGF1bCBNY0FsbGlzdGVyAAIBWwAB AAAARQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAFBhdWwgTWNBbGxpc3RlcgBTTVRQAHBhdWwu bWNhbGxpc3RlckBxaWEubmV0AAAAAAIBXAABAAAAHQAAAFNNVFA6UEFVTC5NQ0FMTElTVEVSQFFJ QS5ORVQAAAAAHgBdAAEAAAAQAAAAUGF1bCBNY0FsbGlzdGVyAAIBXgABAAAARQAAAAAAAACBKx+k vqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAFBhdWwgTWNBbGxpc3RlcgBTTVRQAHBhdWwubWNhbGxpc3RlckBxaWEu bmV0AAAAAAIBXwABAAAAHQAAAFNNVFA6UEFVTC5NQ0FMTElTVEVSQFFJQS5ORVQAAAAAHgBmAAEA AAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAGcAAQAAABgAAABwYXVsLm1jYWxsaXN0ZXJAcWlhLm5ldAAeAGgAAQAA AAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AaQABAAAAGAAAAHBhdWwubWNhbGxpc3RlckBxaWEubmV0AB4AcAABAAAA KQAAAEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiA5MTQgRnVlbCBQcmVzc3VyZSBUcmFuZHVjZXIAAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAb AAAAAcOKyB85WLjfM03DSpK4QLO0mLu60AALL+7wAB4AdAABAAAAGgAAAGV1cm9wYS1saXN0QG1h dHJvbmljcy5jb20AAAAeABoMAQAAABMAAABUb255IFMuIEtyenl6ZXdza2kAAB4AHQ4BAAAAKQAA AEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiA5MTQgRnVlbCBQcmVzc3VyZSBUcmFuZHVjZXIAAAAAAgEJEAEAAACZAQAA lQEAAGwCAABMWkZ1uZuQgwMACgByY3BnMTI14jIDQ3RleAVBAQMB9/8KgAKkA+QHEwKAD/MAUARW PwhVB7IRJQ5RAwECAGNo4QrAc2V0MgYABsMRJfYzBEYTtzASLBEzCO8J97Y7GB8OMDURIgxgYwBQ 8wsJAWQzNhZQC6YK4wqArD4+EiADkXkIYCAOsC5sAyAHgB3waB5gVkTMTyAKsQVAbnUG0BKB7R6A YQVABAAgAiAdsh+hWnIAcWQa0BKBYQQgSesfQAngZB3wbx7wCHAT0a8UECAxHmAhcXceES4c9PUc 9EkEIGEe8BggBBAIcL8eYSDYIcAhMAQQCsB5IDB1BcB3CGBsIfAkiQPhdP0T0CAfgCghAkASgQuA HnGVIBFjIpE/I5t0JwQgbG5vBUAegnMXwSAwZvko8m5nH7QdwiHGBGADAL8iEAXABaAAgAGQAjBs JmA8YnUf8SpwIfAoMWdv2wRwIgJrKrAH4HcekCji6x5gJKdkA2BwBCAfgBewuwfgMSB0B3AfYCOL VAIgCnkc9H0zsAAAAB4ANRABAAAAPQAAADxFQUFFMjY2QTlEOTY5QTQ2QTc3MEJBMzI4QjQzNkZF NzM1QzUwREBuZXV0cmluby5rYW9uLmNvLm56PgAAAAAeAEcQAQAAAA8AAABtZXNzYWdlL3JmYzgy MgAACwDyEAEAAAAfAPMQAQAAAGoAAABSAEUAJQAzAEEAIABFAHUAcgBvAHAAYQAtAEwAaQBzAHQA JQAzAEEAIAA5ADEANAAgAEYAdQBlAGwAIABQAHIAZQBzAHMAdQByAGUAIABUAHIAYQBuAGQAdQBj AGUAcgAuAEUATQBMAAAAAAALAPYQAAAAAEAABzAu9+je9IrDAUAACDB0v/8i9YrDAQMA3j/kBAAA AwDxPwkUAAAeAPg/AQAAABMAAABUb255IFMuIEtyenl6ZXdza2kAAAIB+T8BAAAAWQAAAAAAAADc p0DIwEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAvTz1LQU9OL09VPUZJUlNUIEFETUlOSVNUUkFUSVZFIEdS T1VQL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049VE9OWUsAAAAAHgD6PwEAAAAVAAAAU3lzdGVtIEFkbWluaXN0 cmF0b3IAAAAAAgH7PwEAAAAeAAAAAAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC4AAAADAP0/ 5AQAAAMAGUAAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAADAB1AAAAAAAMAHkAAAAAAHgAwQAEAAAAGAAAAVE9OWUsAAAAe ADFAAQAAAAYAAABUT05ZSwAAAB4AMkABAAAAGAAAAHBhdWwubWNhbGxpc3RlckBxaWEubmV0AB4A M0ABAAAAGAAAAHBhdWwubWNhbGxpc3RlckBxaWEubmV0AB4AOEABAAAABgAAAFRPTllLAAAAHgA5 QAEAAAACAAAALgAAAAsAKQAAAAAACwAjAAAAAAADAAYQ5l5HIgMABxD7AAAAAwAQEAIAAAADABEQ AAAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAENBTllPVVRFTExNRVRIRVZET1BBUlROVU1CRVJUSEFUSVNPTllPVVJU UkFOU0RVQ0VSQVNJTkVFRFRPUFVSQ0hBU0VPTkVBU1dFTExJU0FQUkVTU1VSRVRSQU5TRFVDRVJO RUMAAAAAAgF/AAEAAAA9AAAAPEVBQUUyNjZBOUQ5NjlBNDZBNzcwQkEzMjhCNDM2RkU3MzVDNTBE QG5ldXRyaW5vLmthb24uY28ubno+AAAAABED


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    Time: 09:05:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Oil Hoses
    From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> >> On the oil line on the bottom of the engine I didn't route it as noted in the book. I rotated the banjo connection around so the line came up around the port side instead of being bunched together under the cylinders with the other line. Great minds think alike. I did the same and ended up with a really tidy installation. My tame LAME took one look at my installation and went back and remodelled the oil system on another Europa he had in for a 100 hour check. I used firesleeve over that particular hose but have also replaced all of the oil hoses with a high temp racing hose that Kim Prout helped me buy in Ontario CA. Tony name="winmail.dat" eJ8+Ig8EAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAGwAAAFJFOiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDog T2lsIEhvc2VzAMYIAQWAAwAOAAAA0wcKAAUAEQAEAA4AAAAMAQEggAMADgAAANMHCgAFABEABAAO AAAADAEBCYABACEAAAA3REFGNzRDNURFMjc4NzQ1QUQ4RUFDNjM2RjQ5MkEyQgBuBwEDkAYA6AgA ADYAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQC8ZkO99YrDAR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAAAgFHAAEAAAAtAAAA Yz11czthPSA7cD1LQU9OO2w9TkVVVFJJTk8tMDMxMDA1MDQwNDE0Wi03MzcAAAAAHgBJAAEAAAAb AAAAUkU6IEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiBPaWwgSG9zZXMAAEAATgCA0vHsxIrDAR4AWgABAAAADAAAAFN0 ZXZlIEhhZ2FyAAIBWwABAAAAPwAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAFN0ZXZlIEhhZ2Fy AFNNVFAAaGFnYXJnc0BlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0AAACAVwAAQAAABsAAABTTVRQOkhBR0FSR1NARUFS VEhMSU5LLk5FVAAAHgBdAAEAAAAMAAAAU3RldmUgSGFnYXIAAgFeAAEAAAA/AAAAAAAAAIErH6S+ oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAAAU3RldmUgSGFnYXIAU01UUABoYWdhcmdzQGVhcnRobGluay5uZXQAAAIB XwABAAAAGwAAAFNNVFA6SEFHQVJHU0BFQVJUSExJTksuTkVUAAAeAGYAAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAA AB4AZwABAAAAFgAAAGhhZ2FyZ3NAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldAAAAB4AaAABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAA HgBpAAEAAAAWAAAAaGFnYXJnc0BlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0AAAAHgBwAAEAAAAXAAAARXVyb3BhLUxp c3Q6IE9pbCBIb3NlcwAAAgFxAAEAAAAbAAAAAcOKyIMWIgt3qmZlS22CwkO2b9+6KAALMBjAAB4A dAABAAAAGgAAAEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0TWF0cm9uaWNzLiBDb20AAAAeABoMAQAAABMAAABUb255IFMu IEtyenl6ZXdza2kAAB4AHQ4BAAAAFwAAAEV1cm9wYS1MaXN0OiBPaWwgSG9zZXMAAAIBCRABAAAA hgIAAIICAACyAwAATFpGdaQTDgsDAAoAcmNwZzEyNeIyA0N0ZXgFQQEDAff/CoACpAPkBxMCgA/z AFAEVj8IVQeyESUOUQMBAgBjaOEKwHNldDIGAAbDESX2MwRGE7cwEiwRMwjvCfe2OxgfDjA1ESIM YGMAUDMLCQFkMzYWUAumID4IPiBPA6B0aGUg+m8DEWwLgB1xHTMKogqAbwbgAkADcB2AZh1DCfBn AR3iSSBkaWRuJ0sFQANgdQ6wIGkFQGF9BCBuHvAJgCEQHTQG4G/4ay4gICEDYAGQIaIeWFEAcGpv IAWgbh3wY1x0aR4hCsAIYG4hwHMnJDAdUh3TY2EHgCB19nAk9h1DcBfBJWAgYCEBOwCADrBhCzEe oh9RYmU9C4BnIkAlMBPQIzJvZz8UIB1gBcAlMRKBHVJjef8d0QSBBCAD8B1QHUQqMx3SNyKQHoQe hEcYICMQIG1vK1EEIB1QC4BrIUAd0Gv3LOEgMx1DcyZCAHAhwAnwbwEAIcAmgSvDYSCwKFBs/Gx5 HUAgYDHgKBIxsSMQGyTBIpBNMeEmQkxBTf5FKeEicB4RJcE0Ei4CMjzdMEN3CfAFQCPwYy7RJUGf GCAEYjHAIzQdg3N5KDFXHzE18ixURQhwbwqwID8dYRPgIcMCEAXAMXAxML0WUGgIYSRAHWA2wC4t Gk0gMHUUECHAZmkYIHP5N6Bldh1xPZAqwi4BCrH5JLBjdQtgBcA7MBQQKWF/BUAT4D2RB0AlcRgg C1FjfyGxMbEfRh2SPxIrpTnRae5nK/E3QCaQcgDQKTI/E2U+E0sHcCBQIMI54Wz+cCGxJlEpcDIy HREBkAUQqSQwQ0E721QCIHkehAJ9SBAAAB4ANRABAAAAPQAAADxFQUFFMjY2QTlEOTY5QTQ2QTc3 MEJBMzI4QjQzNkZFNzM1QzUwRUBuZXV0cmluby5rYW9uLmNvLm56PgAAAAAeAEcQAQAAAA8AAABt ZXNzYWdlL3JmYzgyMgAACwDyEAEAAAAfAPMQAQAAAEYAAABSAEUAJQAzAEEAIABFAHUAcgBvAHAA YQAtAEwAaQBzAHQAJQAzAEEAIABPAGkAbAAgAEgAbwBzAGUAcwAuAEUATQBMAAAAAAALAPYQAAAA AEAABzDy3W9D9YrDAUAACDCaoF299YrDAQMA3j/kBAAAAwDxPwkUAAAeAPg/AQAAABMAAABUb255 IFMuIEtyenl6ZXdza2kAAAIB+T8BAAAAWQAAAAAAAADcp0DIwEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAv Tz1LQU9OL09VPUZJUlNUIEFETUlOSVNUUkFUSVZFIEdST1VQL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049VE9O WUsAAAAAHgD6PwEAAAAVAAAAU3lzdGVtIEFkbWluaXN0cmF0b3IAAAAAAgH7PwEAAAAeAAAAAAAA ANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC4AAAADAP0/5AQAAAMAGUAAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAADAB1A AAAAAAMAHkAAAAAAHgAwQAEAAAAGAAAAVE9OWUsAAAAeADFAAQAAAAYAAABUT05ZSwAAAB4AMkAB AAAAFgAAAGhhZ2FyZ3NAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldAAAAB4AM0ABAAAAFgAAAGhhZ2FyZ3NAZWFydGhs aW5rLm5ldAAAAB4AOEABAAAABgAAAFRPTllLAAAAHgA5QAEAAAACAAAALgAAAAsAKQAAAAAACwAj AAAAAAADAAYQIqkAdAMABxD1AQAAAwAQEAIAAAADABEQAAAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAE9OVEhFT0lM TElORU9OVEhFQk9UVE9NT0ZUSEVFTkdJTkVJRElETlRST1VURUlUQVNOT1RFRElOVEhFQk9PS0lS T1RBVEVEVEhFQkFOSk9DT05ORUNUSU9OQVJPVU5EU09USEUAAAAAAgF/AAEAAAA9AAAAPEVBQUUy NjZBOUQ5NjlBNDZBNzcwQkEzMjhCNDM2RkU3MzVDNTBFQG5ldXRyaW5vLmthb24uY28ubno+AAAA AKsd


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    Time: 09:09:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Fitting wings to fuse
    From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz> >> The front pins "just' touch the fuse and the rear pins are at least 3/8" away from the fuse. Since the inside pip pins are right on....I can't quite figure out what is wrong. Did you verify the wing sweep when installing the fore and aft wing pin sockets?? Tony name="winmail.dat" eJ8+IiwEAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAJwAAAFJFOiBFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDog Rml0dGluZyB3aW5ncyB0byBmdXNlAHMNAQWAAwAOAAAA0wcKAAUAEQAHACsAAAAsAQEggAMADgAA ANMHCgAFABEABwArAAAALAEBCYABACEAAABCN0NBOUJBQTI1MjI4OTQ3QUU4MEUyQURBMTRFNTE1 RgBXBwEDkAYALAgAADYAAAADADYAAAAAAEAAOQDoWqs59orDAR4APQABAAAABQAAAFJFOiAAAAAA AgFHAAEAAAAtAAAAYz11czthPSA7cD1LQU9OO2w9TkVVVFJJTk8tMDMxMDA1MDQwNzQzWi03MzgA AAAAHgBJAAEAAAAjAAAARXVyb3BhLUxpc3Q6IEZpdHRpbmcgd2luZ3MgdG8gZnVzZQAAQABOAACx rt7aisMBHgBaAAEAAAAMAAAAQWxhbiBTdGlsbHMAAgFbAAEAAABCAAAAAAAAAIErH6S+oxAZnW4A 3QEPVAIAAAAAQWxhbiBTdGlsbHMAU01UUABhc3RpbGxzNzg1QGVhcnRobGluay5uZXQAAAACAVwA AQAAAB4AAABTTVRQOkFTVElMTFM3ODVARUFSVEhMSU5LLk5FVAAAAB4AXQABAAAADAAAAEFsYW4g U3RpbGxzAAIBXgABAAAAQgAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAEFsYW4gU3RpbGxzAFNN VFAAYXN0aWxsczc4NUBlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0AAAAAgFfAAEAAAAeAAAAU01UUDpBU1RJTExTNzg1 QEVBUlRITElOSy5ORVQAAAAeAGYAAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AZwABAAAAGQAAAGFzdGlsbHM3 ODVAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldAAAAAAeAGgAAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AaQABAAAAGQAAAGFzdGls bHM3ODVAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5ldAAAAAAeAHAAAQAAACMAAABFdXJvcGEtTGlzdDogRml0dGluZyB3 aW5ncyB0byBmdXNlAAACAXEAAQAAABsAAAABw4rfhtCe7cBwuR1NFbwumeoOPfAuAAWhOPIAHgB0 AAEAAAAaAAAAZXVyb3BhLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbQAAAB4AGgwBAAAAEwAAAFRvbnkgUy4g S3J6eXpld3NraQAAHgAdDgEAAAAjAAAARXVyb3BhLUxpc3Q6IEZpdHRpbmcgd2luZ3MgdG8gZnVz ZQAAAgEJEAEAAABxAQAAbQEAADYCAABMWkZ1K3EXrQMACgByY3BnMTI14jIDQ3RleAVBAQMB9/8K gAKkA+QHEwKAD/MAUARWPwhVB7IRJQ5RAwECAGNo4QrAc2V0MgYABsMRJfYzBEYTtzASLBEzCO8J 97Y7GB8OMDURIgxgYwBQ8wsJAWQzNhZQC6YK4wqAgD4+IFRoZSADURkCMCBwC4AEICJqdeBzdCcg dAhgE9Ae0O8dkh6QHaAAcGQfMxggCsFvHiMKwB+xBUBsIGAeoCAQMy84Ihz0YXdhankdsm0fNy4G AAuAY7cdoB9CHjFpAQAeEXAgmFkFEGdoBUACIC4mAUkkIGMAcCd0HPRxdf5pDrAdsCWQCHAdoAhg BUC+dxPgBUAEACgQHdFnI4BLHPQc9EQkcCB5CGAgvnYGciKQH0ID8CjQIAPgPwngJNAoIAnwJDIB kGxs7ysSH0MFsB+0YQGAKvQeIRErQG9jaxQgcz8/VSkaVAIgeRz0fTBQAAAAHgA1EAEAAAA9AAAA PEVBQUUyNjZBOUQ5NjlBNDZBNzcwQkEzMjhCNDM2RkU3MzVDNTBGQG5ldXRyaW5vLmthb24uY28u bno+AAAAAB4ARxABAAAADwAAAG1lc3NhZ2UvcmZjODIyAAALAPIQAQAAAB8A8xABAAAAXgAAAFIA RQAlADMAQQAgAEUAdQByAG8AcABhAC0ATABpAHMAdAAlADMAQQAgAEYAaQB0AHQAaQBuAGcAIAB3 AGkAbgBnAHMAIAB0AG8AIABmAHUAcwBlAC4ARQBNAEwAAAAAAAsA9hAAAAAAQAAHMOQ+rgv2isMB QAAIMEps3Tn2isMBAwDeP+QEAAADAPE/CRQAAB4A+D8BAAAAEwAAAFRvbnkgUy4gS3J6eXpld3Nr aQAAAgH5PwEAAABZAAAAAAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPUtBT04vT1U9RklS U1QgQURNSU5JU1RSQVRJVkUgR1JPVVAvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9DTj1UT05ZSwAAAAAeAPo/AQAA ABUAAABTeXN0ZW0gQWRtaW5pc3RyYXRvcgAAAAACAfs/AQAAAB4AAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgA Ky/hggEAAAAAAAAALgAAAAMA/T/kBAAAAwAZQAAAAAADABpAAAAAAAMAHUAAAAAAAwAeQAAAAAAe ADBAAQAAAAYAAABUT05ZSwAAAB4AMUABAAAABgAAAFRPTllLAAAAHgAyQAEAAAAZAAAAYXN0aWxs czc4NUBlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0AAAAAB4AM0ABAAAAGQAAAGFzdGlsbHM3ODVAZWFydGhsaW5rLm5l dAAAAAAeADhAAQAAAAYAAABUT05ZSwAAAB4AOUABAAAAAgAAAC4AAAALACkAAAAAAAsAIwAAAAAA AwAGEEPXFkkDAAcQzAAAAAMAEBACAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABUSEVGUk9OVFBJTlMi SlVTVFRPVUNIVEhFRlVTRUFORFRIRVJFQVJQSU5TQVJFQVRMRUFTVDMvOCJBV0FZRlJPTVRIRUZV U0VTSU5DRVRIRUlOU0lERVBJUFBJTlNBUkVSSUdIAAAAAAIBfwABAAAAPQAAADxFQUFFMjY2QTlE OTY5QTQ2QTc3MEJBMzI4QjQzNkZFNzM1QzUwRkBuZXV0cmluby5rYW9uLmNvLm56PgAAAADa3g==


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    Time: 10:09:32 PM PST US
    From: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: hanging fuse
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "RK Hallett III" <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Thanks to all of you for the helpful responses. This group has always been of great help to me and others... even those of us reading quietly in the background. Thanks again, Ralph <HTML><HEAD> <META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" nameGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor#ffffff> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks to all of you for the helpful responses.&nbsp; This group has always been of great help to me and others... even those of us reading quietly in the background.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Thanks again,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT faceArial size2>Ralph</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>




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