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1. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib (Fergus Kyle)
2. 07:53 AM - Re: Hobbs switch (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
3. 08:18 AM - oil cooler hose (paul stewart)
4. 10:42 AM - Re: Rotax rectifier-regulator feedback ? (David Watts)
5. 10:42 AM - Re: pfa rally dates 2004 (David Watts)
6. 11:54 AM - Re: Rotax rectifier-regulator feedback ? (Ami McFadyean)
7. 12:32 PM - Re: oil cooler hose (Tony S. Krzyzewski)
8. 01:17 PM - Re: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib (Roger Sheridan)
9. 01:40 PM - Re: oil cooler hose (Bill & Sue Sisley)
10. 04:55 PM - Re: Mini U2 - landing lights ()
11. 05:50 PM - Re: oil cooler hose ()
12. 08:28 PM - Easiest way to inspect landing gear and swing it? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
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| Subject: | Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
I agree with Michael Parkin entirely. I too used extra AS peelply which was
invisible when wetted and feel that RTFQ should be included in every
kindergarten manual.
Before lambasting the factory folk, let's wait till we have a
locked-down argueless point, THEN get the b______...........
Ferg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Parkin"
<Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
|
| Guys,
|
| Perhaps it is not the 'factory' failing to react to the suggested change
in
| peel-ply colour, but more a problem of lead time. It may be that those
| people currently having problems with the invisible peel-ply just bought
| their wing kits about the same time. When the problem works itself
through
| the system it may be that all wings come with the highly visible green
| peel-ply.
|
| For those of us that built our wings the hard way, the original wing kit
| came with blue peel-ply - lots of it!! Later on, I found that I needed
some
| more and I bought several rolls from Aircraft Spruce, the peel-ply that
| came from AS was indeed white and transparent when applied and had no red
| stripe at all. However, in my opinion, the white AS peel-ply was streets
| better than the original Europa supplied blue stuff. The green P-P is
fine
| but I still prefer the Aircraft Spruce P-P. The green is of slightly
| lighter grade and does not produce such a good job if used with any folds
| still in it - it needs to ironed for best results I understand.
|
| The components of the kit are not actually made at the Europa Factory -
| unless there is a secret underground skunk works in existence. As I
| understand it, the major glass fibre components are sub-contracted out to
a
| professional aircraft manufacturer. Maybe they will get round to green
| peel-ply eventually - maybe not.
|
| I think it is a little unfair to be so quick to criticise the factory -
when
| lead times for these major components are probably quite long. I think
that
| the guys at Europa react very quickly and appropriately when the need
arises
| and they are always actively engaged in improving the product whether the
| aircraft is flying or still under construction.
|
| I must agree with Jos - if the instructions say 'remove the peel-ply' and
| you don't, they the fault lies much closer than Kirbymoorside.
|
| As a young pilot, we where always told by our instructor to "RTFQ",
meaning
| 'Read The F****** Question'. Perhaps this is a case of "RTFI" - meaning
| 'Read the Instructions'.
|
| regards,
|
| Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs switch |
10/22/2003 10:52:55 AM,
Serialize complete at 10/22/2003 10:52:55 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Westach also makes a 912/14 compatible tach/hobbs. I bought the 2.25"
flavor
Ira N224XS on final approach!
--> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft <europa@gate.net>
Hi All,
Lockwood recomends a hobbs to record engine time for oil changes, other
regular maintenance & diags. Both Mitchell, and UMA make electronic
tachometers with a time readout. Mitchell also makes a 2 1/4" mechanical
recording tach for the Rotax 912 / 914.
Hope this helps.
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
Given that the manual give the option of mounting the oil cooler 2" lower to improve
oil cooling and my understanding is that cooling can be an issue with the
914, have folk fitted their oil coolers flush against the cooling duct or the
optional lower position?
Also the manual has picures of nice looking SS braided oil hose attached to the
oil tank not the black rubber stuff supplied with enginse and FWF kit. I seem
to remember threads about oil hoses can anyone enlighten me?
Regards
Paul #432
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax rectifier-regulator feedback ? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net>
We had to replace the regulator at 500 hours after a gradual increase of low
voltage warning and now at 950 hours we have got our fingures crossed.
I know also that Peter Kember has replaced his twice.
Dave Watts G-BXDY.
>From: "Gilles.Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
> There have been rumors about the Rotax 912/914 rectifier-regulators
toasting
> in service.
> I'm in the process of installing a Rotax 914 in my project, and would be
> interested in knowing wether it is facts or just hangar tales.
> Has anyone around any solid feedback about this issue ?
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| Subject: | Re: pfa rally dates 2004 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net>
Sorry for the confusion, but I based my information on a press release that
the PFA put out when they booked Kemble for this year, stating that next
year was already booked for the traditional dates.
Dave Watts.
>From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
> Just got my copy of The Europa Flyer today, and must apologise to
> Dave Watts for immediately calling attention to an error!
> Those of you who are putting the PFA Rally dates in your 2004 diary,
> please note that the correct dates are 9th to 11th July. I have this
> from the Rally Chairman Steve Petter who was sitting beside me at the
> PFA National Council meeting on Saturday.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax rectifier-regulator feedback ? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Is there a pattern favouring failure on Classics (other than that they would
probably have more collective flying hours) as a consequence of heat from
the rear exhaust header pipe?
I wonder how many have failed on microlights (where everything is hung out
in the breeze).
Duncan McF
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax rectifier-regulator feedback ?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net>
>
> We had to replace the regulator at 500 hours after a gradual increase of
low
> voltage warning and now at 950 hours we have got our fingures crossed.
> I know also that Peter Kember has replaced his twice.
> Dave Watts G-BXDY.
>
> >From: "Gilles.Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
> > There have been rumors about the Rotax 912/914 rectifier-regulators
> toasting
> > in service.
> > I'm in the process of installing a Rotax 914 in my project, and would be
> > interested in knowing wether it is facts or just hangar tales.
> > Has anyone around any solid feedback about this issue ?
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>> have folk fitted their oil coolers flush against the cooling duct or
the optional lower position?
I moved mine lower. You'll need to change the angled fitting on the
radiator for a straight one, orderable from Europa, and open up the hole
in the support a bit. It'll also help if you use some baffle to seal off
the sides of the radiators so the air flows through them and not around
them.
>> Also the manual has picures of nice looking SS braided oil hose
attached to the oil tank not the black rubber stuff supplied with
enginse and FWF kit. I seem to remember threads about oil hoses can
anyone enlighten me?
I used high temp racing hose rather than the black stuff and covered it
with firesleeve where it passes close to the engine.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Roger Sheridan <rogersheridan@btinternet.com>
I'm not one to knock the factory and agree with the RTFM principle.
However, as Rob points out, there was no mention of peel ply on the root rib
in the original XS wing instructions, you could RTFM all day & it wouldn't
help!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>
> I agree with Michael Parkin entirely. I too used extra AS peelply which was
> invisible when wetted and feel that RTFQ should be included in every
> kindergarten manual.
> Before lambasting the factory folk, let's wait till we have a
> locked-down argueless point, THEN get the b______...........
> Ferg
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Parkin" <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib
>
>
> <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
> in
> through
> some
> fine
> a
> when
> that
> arises
> meaning
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill & Sue Sisley" <bill.sue@zip.co.nz>
I mounted mine as per the manual, in line. Initially I had overheating on
the ground only.
I have now made a filler on the bottom cowl to give a smooth passage of air
into the radiators and continuing out the back to the rear edge of the
bottom of the cowl. This has made a major difference and now I have the
reverse problem of not hot enough.
Sue and Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "paul stewart" <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: oil cooler hose
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart"
<paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
>
> Given that the manual give the option of mounting the oil cooler 2" lower
to improve oil cooling and my understanding is that cooling can be an issue
with the 914, have folk fitted their oil coolers flush against the cooling
duct or the optional lower position?
>
> Also the manual has picures of nice looking SS braided oil hose attached
to the oil tank not the black rubber stuff supplied with enginse and FWF
kit. I seem to remember threads about oil hoses can anyone enlighten me?
>
> Regards
>
> Paul #432
>
>
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| Subject: | Mini U2 - landing lights |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Graham
A079 XS Mono N96V from sunny California is interested in your nav light
covers. I am still fiddling around with leds and would like to shelter
them. Please send any photos.
Thanks, Tom Friedland
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Subject: Europa-List: Mini U2 - landing lights
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 18/10/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "david.corbett"
<david.corbett@fwi.co.uk>
>
>I cannot help with this problem, but will await the postings with
interest
>hoping
>that UK Europa's will get permission to fly at night at some stage in
the
>future.
Thinking about Nav lights, I've made a few preliminary wing tip light
covers. Paul McA has fitted them, I haven't yet spent enough time
learning
how to set up a web site, time seems to go faster for some reason?!?
If anyone wants to see the results email me directly and I will send
some
pictures.
Graham
---
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: oil cooler hose |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
I moved my oil radiator down to the cowl surface. I also closed off about
half of the opening under the water radiator. This forces most of the air
through the water radiator first. That has helped a lot but climb needs to
be at airspeed of 110 MPH to keep everything cool.
I used Teflon hose from the lower crankcase banjo fitting to the oil
tank.(also hose from turbo pump outlet to oil tank). The hose is covered
with woven stainless steel cover. The other hoses around the engine have
fire sleeve.
Ken Carpenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: oil cooler hose
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony S. Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
>
> >> have folk fitted their oil coolers flush against the cooling duct or
> the optional lower position?
>
> I moved mine lower. You'll need to change the angled fitting on the
> radiator for a straight one, orderable from Europa, and open up the hole
> in the support a bit. It'll also help if you use some baffle to seal off
> the sides of the radiators so the air flows through them and not around
> them.
>
> >> Also the manual has picures of nice looking SS braided oil hose
> attached to the oil tank not the black rubber stuff supplied with
> enginse and FWF kit. I seem to remember threads about oil hoses can
> anyone enlighten me?
>
> I used high temp racing hose rather than the black stuff and covered it
> with firesleeve where it passes close to the engine.
>
> Tony
>
>
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| Subject: | Easiest way to inspect landing gear and swing it? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
A ways off yet, but curious.
On completed monowheel, what is good way to elevate craft so you can swing gear?
For instance when doing conditional, or if there is a problem.
I have two 750 lb pump jacks with platforms that works well to lift Cozy 3 from
the wings. I was kinda sortta thinking lifting under spar by double ribs with a
piece of dense foam under wings.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
Monowheel A265
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