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1. 05:34 AM - Re: Wing fairing problems (Kevin Klinefelter)
2. 09:33 AM - Re: Wing fairing problems (Jeff Roberts)
3. 09:56 AM - First Hello to you all... (Tom Paul)
4. 10:11 AM - Re: Wing fairing problems (R.C.Harrison)
5. 10:57 AM - First flight (Jac van Heeswijk)
6. 01:28 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
7. 01:35 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (Paul Boulet)
8. 03:29 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (Jeremy Davey)
9. 03:29 PM - Re: First flight (Jeremy Davey)
10. 03:48 PM - Re: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered (James Nelson)
11. 05:44 PM - Re: 914 Heater (n3eu@comcast.net)
12. 06:09 PM - Re: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered (Frank Wood)
13. 06:17 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (Kevin Klinefelter)
14. 06:23 PM - Re: Wing fairing problems (ScramIt@aol.com)
15. 07:08 PM - 912S heater (Fred R. Klein)
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| Subject: | Wing fairing problems |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Jeff,
I read on this forum that by applying heat with a heat gun (gently) you can
change the shape of the fairings. I have yet to do the wing root fairings.
How much Redux did you use to bond the fairings on?
I have the wing root fairings and the windshield yet to bond in place and am
wondering if I have enough Redux left. I only have about 1/3 of a can.
Kevin
A211 Monowheel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts
Subject: Europa-List: Wing fairing problems
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
I have just attached my first wingroot fairing on to the port side wing. We
glued it and screwed it and placed it against the card stock taped against
the fuselage for paint spacing. Everything went well and we seam to have a
good fit however. The outer most edge of the flange curls back away from the
sides a bit in places. My question is how have others pushed this back or
should we just trim the outer flange edges back to where they touch the
fuselage again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff
A258 Trigear
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| Subject: | Re: Wing fairing problems |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
on 10/26/03 8:33 AM, Kevin Klinefelter at kevann@gte.net wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
>
> Jeff,
> I read on this forum that by applying heat with a heat gun (gently) you can
> change the shape of the fairings. I have yet to do the wing root fairings.
> How much Redux did you use to bond the fairings on?
>
> I have the wing root fairings and the windshield yet to bond in place and am
> wondering if I have enough Redux left. I only have about 1/3 of a can.
>
> Kevin
> A211 Monowheel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Kevin,
Thanks for the tip, I was thinking of that but wondered how I may hold the
flange against the fuselage while I heat it. You should have enough re-dux
in 1/3 rd of a can. I just used about a 1-inch wide strip of it with flox
mixed in around the wing. About a 30 gram mix per wing did it. With the
fairing on the wing pushed against the sides I marked the wing on the
outside of the flange with a marker. Then I removed it and applied the green
stuff to the wing. Then I put the flange in place, drilled and used sheet
metal screws as I worked my way from front to back. Good luck and enjoy.
Jeff A258
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| Subject: | First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com>
Hi Fellow Europa Folks!
I Just purchased a monowheel xs kit in a half-completed state. I am in the
New York City area. I will be fetching the kit by the end of the year and
will spend some time until then creating a workshop in the garage. I will
do a search of the archive for workshop tips, but I would appreciate
anyone's advice as to what are the key ingredients to consider.
I am also considering how to get this kit from southern california to NY in
the most economical way. I am looking into purchasing an enclosed cargo
trailer with 20x6x6 dimensions that can both get my kit home, and then be
modified to cradle the completed aircraft for both storage and transport to
and from the airport. The factory transporter makes me a little
uncomfortable because I worry about getting rear-ended by a celphone-talker
and losing the prop or worse. One difficulty I have run into so far is that
a 20' trailer will have 2 axles, be quite bulky, and the manufacturer states
that it weighs more than a tom empty. This would put in the market for a
stronger tow vehicle than my Subaru Legacy. I don't think such a robust
trailer is needed.
I did a search for "trailer" on the archive and found a few things, but not
too much. Any info about other's thoughts on this topic would be
appreciated.
I am very excited to be a Europa builder now, and I am happy that this forum
is here to participate in.
Thanks all,
Tom Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Wing fairing problems |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Jeff.
Don't try to heat the fairing against the fuselage IMHO you will be likely
to delaminate the fuselage sandwich.
The sandwich having foam in the middle will not conduct the heat away.
Best get it near when you fit it to the wing then apply white silicone
sealant into the gap with cling film taped to the fuselage so it releases.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wing fairing problems
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
>
> on 10/26/03 8:33 AM, Kevin Klinefelter at kevann@gte.net wrote:
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
> >
> > Jeff,
> > I read on this forum that by applying heat with a heat gun (gently) you
can
> > change the shape of the fairings. I have yet to do the wing root
fairings.
> > How much Redux did you use to bond the fairings on?
> >
> > I have the wing root fairings and the windshield yet to bond in place
and am
> > wondering if I have enough Redux left. I only have about 1/3 of a can.
> >
> > Kevin
> > A211 Monowheel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Kevin,
> Thanks for the tip, I was thinking of that but wondered how I may hold the
> flange against the fuselage while I heat it. You should have enough re-dux
> in 1/3 rd of a can. I just used about a 1-inch wide strip of it with flox
> mixed in around the wing. About a 30 gram mix per wing did it. With the
> fairing on the wing pushed against the sides I marked the wing on the
> outside of the flange with a marker. Then I removed it and applied the
green
> stuff to the wing. Then I put the flange in place, drilled and used sheet
> metal screws as I worked my way from front to back. Good luck and enjoy.
> Jeff A258
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jac van Heeswijk" <jac.vanheeswijk@hetnet.nl>
.
On Thursday 23 October 2003 Europa Trigear nr. 305 PH-IEN took to the air for it's
first flight in the capable hands of Ivan Shaw.
Congratulations to it's builder Rob van Essen from the Netherlands, who finished
the job in about 3 years.
Ivan's first words after the flight: "Absolutely Marvellous!".
Any more comments necessary?
Good luck to you, Rob and Christie. Finally you can enjoy now the real flying excitement!
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Well, Tom have put yourself in a pickle. First, congratulations on making the
right choice for an aircraft. I think that you will truly love your plane
after completion. For now it's like having a child, caring for it, buying stuff
for it, etc. I hope you have an understanding significant other.
You might drop Kim Prout a line here on the Forum. He is the local
distributor in southern Calif and might have a lead on transporting your kit.
As for trailer.......you can drop those thoughts for a few years. It won't be
needed for quite a while and it would simply be in the way until then. Then
talk to a trailer builder and explain the bulk Vs weight issue you are facing
and the need for protection during transport. Also keep in mind whether it's
gonna be the plane's year round storage and will have to keep the weather out,
then think covered trailer. You might also check into people that have or build
trailers for gliders. Very similar concept.
Tools for your shop.....epoxy pump if you can afford one, Dremel tool with
lots of cutoff bits, right angle attachment for your drill, a good level or
digital level (I got mine from Orchard Supply Hardware), dust masks, a good shop
vacuum (it'll need the filter cleaned quite often), protective gloves for epoxy
handling (many people say not to use latex), one of those handy little
sanders that can get into tight places, a catalog from Aircraft Spruce, and the
list
goes on from there.
Get the manual and read it all the way thru.....then when you will have an
idea when things will be coming along. Take your time, don't do layups after 9pm
at night because you may have to redo them right the next day. And go through
the archive on a lot of the things you do. Ask the Forum questions on any
concerns you have.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Ps - where in NYC are you?
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| Subject: | Re: First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
congratulations on the buy Tom; The fella you bought it from put a lot of heart
and soul into the build and I'm sure you've got a fine machine. Ever since I
bought my kit 3 years ago I've struggled with trying to find the ideal trailer
solution and don't have an answer. The best I found was a glider trailer mfg
that wanted to joint venture making and promoting an enclosed clam shell type
trailer like you see gliders in while being towed. He wanted $30,000 and I
believe it could of been a go but with him in GA and me in So CA I didn't want
to try. Just passing this on FWIW. I'm so close to being ready to fly it's
killing me.... hope to report a successful first flight within thirty days
Paul Boulet, N914PB, Malibu, CA
Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul
Hi Fellow Europa Folks!
I Just purchased a monowheel xs kit in a half-completed state. I am in the
New York City area. I will be fetching the kit by the end of the year and
will spend some time until then creating a workshop in the garage. I will
do a search of the archive for workshop tips, but I would appreciate
anyone's advice as to what are the key ingredients to consider.
I am also considering how to get this kit from southern california to NY in
the most economical way. I am looking into purchasing an enclosed cargo
trailer with 20x6x6 dimensions that can both get my kit home, and then be
modified to cradle the completed aircraft for both storage and transport to
and from the airport. The factory transporter makes me a little
uncomfortable because I worry about getting rear-ended by a celphone-talker
and losing the prop or worse. One difficulty I have run into so far is that
a 20' trailer will have 2 axles, be quite bulky, and the manufacturer states
that it weighs more than a tom empty. This would put in the market for a
stronger tow vehicle than my Subaru Legacy. I don't think such a robust
trailer is needed.
I did a search for "trailer" on the archive and found a few things, but not
too much. Any info about other's thoughts on this topic would be
appreciated.
I am very excited to be a Europa builder now, and I am happy that this forum
is here to participate in.
Thanks all,
Tom Paul
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| Subject: | First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Just one thought to add to that - get lots of Permagrit tools!
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
DuaneFamly@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Hello to you all...
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Well, Tom have put yourself in a pickle. First, congratulations on making
the
right choice for an aircraft. I think that you will truly love your plane
after completion. For now it's like having a child, caring for it, buying
stuff
for it, etc. I hope you have an understanding significant other.
You might drop Kim Prout a line here on the Forum. He is the local
distributor in southern Calif and might have a lead on transporting your
kit.
As for trailer.......you can drop those thoughts for a few years. It won't
be
needed for quite a while and it would simply be in the way until then. Then
talk to a trailer builder and explain the bulk Vs weight issue you are
facing
and the need for protection during transport. Also keep in mind whether it's
gonna be the plane's year round storage and will have to keep the weather
out,
then think covered trailer. You might also check into people that have or
build
trailers for gliders. Very similar concept.
Tools for your shop.....epoxy pump if you can afford one, Dremel tool with
lots of cutoff bits, right angle attachment for your drill, a good level or
digital level (I got mine from Orchard Supply Hardware), dust masks, a good
shop
vacuum (it'll need the filter cleaned quite often), protective gloves for
epoxy
handling (many people say not to use latex), one of those handy little
sanders that can get into tight places, a catalog from Aircraft Spruce, and
the list
goes on from there.
Get the manual and read it all the way thru.....then when you will have an
idea when things will be coming along. Take your time, don't do layups after
9pm
at night because you may have to redo them right the next day. And go
through
the archive on a lot of the things you do. Ask the Forum questions on any
concerns you have.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Ps - where in NYC are you?
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Congrats, all! Looking forward to seeing her at a fly-in.
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jac van
Heeswijk
Subject: Europa-List: First flight
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jac van Heeswijk"
<jac.vanheeswijk@hetnet.nl>
.
On Thursday 23 October 2003 Europa Trigear nr. 305 PH-IEN took to the air
for it's first flight in the capable hands of Ivan Shaw.
Congratulations to it's builder Rob van Essen from the Netherlands, who
finished the job in about 3 years.
Ivan's first words after the flight: "Absolutely Marvellous!".
Any more comments necessary?
Good luck to you, Rob and Christie. Finally you can enjoy now the real
flying excitement!
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi Frank,
Just a little bit of info, Bob Berube is not an employee of
Europa. Bob is an independent contractor who works with Europa and
helps many people to get a good start with the fine Europa Aircraft. He
also does work for those who are building Van's RV series aircraft. He
runs a varied shop with excellent people around him to produce some good
looking birds.
Jim Nelson
N15JN
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:26:38 -0600 Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca>
>
> Hi Rowland,The last part of your e-mail did not get through the
> first
> time.Is it possible that it is kit #219 that went to NZ,? John Hurst
> gave me
> the number and the sales contract from atty for the estate states
> #A026,the
> aircraft was partially constructed by Bob Berube under contract to
> Norman.Bob, as you know, is an employee of Europa in Florida .It
> would be
> interesting if this aircraft had indeed been registered in the
> U.S.it would
> sure make things easier for me getting it registered in Canada.I
> would
> certainly be interested in joining the Europa Club and meeting with
> you and
> other members at your functions,I travel to Europe often and I am
> sure that
> I could arrange the timing to met one of your fly-ins. Thanks for
> your info.
> Frank.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson
> <rowil@clara.net>
> >
> > On 2003 10 24 at 16:57 -0600, Frank Wood wrote:
> >
> > >My europa is A026 and I
> > >purchased it about 70% complete
> >
> > Frank - I'm puzzled by your kit number. A026 was issued to Norman
> > Marsh (he also had kit 219 earlier) and the aircraft was
> registered
> > in 1997 03 and flew as N13NM. The FAA cancelled that mark on its
> > export to New Zealand in 2000 03, where it took up ZK-NWM from
> 2002
> > 07 18. Sadly Norman Marsh died a while back and ZK-NWM has a new
> > owner now.
> >
> > Is it possible that A026 is a typo? If you can tell me from whom
> you
> > bought the part-completed kit, that will probably solve the
> mystery
> > as I should be able to match up names in the factory list (I
> can't
> > find your name in the latest one I have).
> >
> > By the way, no doubt you are aware of the Jabiru engines e-mail
> list
> > the talk there is about use on microlights, there is useful
> > information interchange for any Jabiru engine user.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Rowland
> > --
> >
> > | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
> > | Europa 435 G-ROWI (640 hours building) PFA #16532
> > | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website
> <www.europaclub.org.uk>
> >
> >
>
>
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
>> I believe there are a number of types doing this using the coolant
>> circuit. My inspector used to be Rotax's biggest UK customer and
>> he raised this possibility when I discussed cockpit heating with
>> him. Might be worth looking into.
>> Jeremy Davey
>
> Only sensible way to go, Jeremy. (IMHO{;-)
> Graham
What are the anecdotal reports on using engine coolant for cabin heat? I recall
from long ago on many cars that the system worked awful, with a piece of cardboard
covering the radiator a partial fix only. And those cars had a thermostat,
which the Rotax doesn't, and a full-time fan unlike cars today, but which
is the case of an airplane. Does it actually work at say 0F (-18C) outside temp
under an overcast?
Regards,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca>
Hi James ,you are correct I am getting my Bobs mixed up I think it is Bob
Setzer(I hope I have it right this time) that works for Europa,Please
correct me if I am wrong again,I am hoping that it was he that did the
contract assembly work.The work he did appears to be very well done and it
is only my personal choice that is making me strip the aircraft to basics
and reassemble.I would be interested if you have any information on the
Prince Prop re performance compared to others.My first choice would have
been an Airmaster variable pitch.Thanks Frank.----- Original Message -----
From: "James Nelson" <europajim@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered
> --> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
>
> Hi Frank,
> Just a little bit of info, Bob Berube is not an employee of
> Europa. Bob is an independent contractor who works with Europa and
> helps many people to get a good start with the fine Europa Aircraft. He
> also does work for those who are building Van's RV series aircraft. He
> runs a varied shop with excellent people around him to produce some good
> looking birds.
>
> Jim Nelson
> N15JN
>
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 16:26:38 -0600 Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca> writes:
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Frank Wood <fswood@shaw.ca>
> >
> > Hi Rowland,The last part of your e-mail did not get through the
> > first
> > time.Is it possible that it is kit #219 that went to NZ,? John Hurst
> > gave me
> > the number and the sales contract from atty for the estate states
> > #A026,the
> > aircraft was partially constructed by Bob Berube under contract to
> > Norman.Bob, as you know, is an employee of Europa in Florida .It
> > would be
> > interesting if this aircraft had indeed been registered in the
> > U.S.it would
> > sure make things easier for me getting it registered in Canada.I
> > would
> > certainly be interested in joining the Europa Club and meeting with
> > you and
> > other members at your functions,I travel to Europe often and I am
> > sure that
> > I could arrange the timing to met one of your fly-ins. Thanks for
> > your info.
> > Frank.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Tri-Gear 3300 Jabiru Powered
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson
> > <rowil@clara.net>
> > >
> > > On 2003 10 24 at 16:57 -0600, Frank Wood wrote:
> > >
> > > >My europa is A026 and I
> > > >purchased it about 70% complete
> > >
> > > Frank - I'm puzzled by your kit number. A026 was issued to Norman
> > > Marsh (he also had kit 219 earlier) and the aircraft was
> > registered
> > > in 1997 03 and flew as N13NM. The FAA cancelled that mark on its
> > > export to New Zealand in 2000 03, where it took up ZK-NWM from
> > 2002
> > > 07 18. Sadly Norman Marsh died a while back and ZK-NWM has a new
> > > owner now.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that A026 is a typo? If you can tell me from whom
> > you
> > > bought the part-completed kit, that will probably solve the
> > mystery
> > > as I should be able to match up names in the factory list (I
> > can't
> > > find your name in the latest one I have).
> > >
> > > By the way, no doubt you are aware of the Jabiru engines e-mail
> > list
> > > the talk there is about use on microlights, there is useful
> > > information interchange for any Jabiru engine user.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Rowland
> > > --
> > >
> > > | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
> > > | Europa 435 G-ROWI (640 hours building) PFA #16532
> > > | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website
> > <www.europaclub.org.uk>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Hi Tom,
I have been looking at trailers too. The manufactured enclosed ones are for
hauling cars and such and are way more heavy duty than a Europa needs. I
have a Subaru too and a four cyl. Toyota truck. She Who Must Be Obeyed is
not too crazy about that big trailer being parked out front of the house
either. I'm about to give up and just buy the Europa trailer, park it in
half the garage, and fret a lot while I tow 17 miles of rural highway to the
Bishop CA airport. I may one day get a hanger.
While waiting for my kit to show up 2 1/2 years ago I built a couple
cabinets with front faces that fold down to become table surfaces. One holds
the rolls of glass and becomes the cutting table, the other smaller one
holds the epoxy and forms a mixing table where I use the digital scale. A 40
watt light bulb inside keeps the epoxy warm in the colder months.
If you don't already have one, a good work bench with a vice is a
necessity.
So. Cal is on fire big time, I'm sure Kim Prout is a busy firefighter.
Kevin
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Subject: Europa-List: First Hello to you all...
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com>
Hi Fellow Europa Folks!
I Just purchased a monowheel xs kit in a half-completed state. I am in the
New York City area. I will be fetching the kit by the end of the year and
will spend some time until then creating a workshop in the garage. I will
do a search of the archive for workshop tips, but I would appreciate
anyone's advice as to what are the key ingredients to consider.
I am also considering how to get this kit from southern california to NY in
the most economical way. I am looking into purchasing an enclosed cargo
trailer with 20x6x6 dimensions that can both get my kit home, and then be
modified to cradle the completed aircraft for both storage and transport to
and from the airport. The factory transporter makes me a little
uncomfortable because I worry about getting rear-ended by a celphone-talker
and losing the prop or worse. One difficulty I have run into so far is that
a 20' trailer will have 2 axles, be quite bulky, and the manufacturer states
that it weighs more than a tom empty. This would put in the market for a
stronger tow vehicle than my Subaru Legacy. I don't think such a robust
trailer is needed.
I did a search for "trailer" on the archive and found a few things, but not
too much. Any info about other's thoughts on this topic would be
appreciated.
I am very excited to be a Europa builder now, and I am happy that this forum
is here to participate in.
Thanks all,
Tom Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
If you're wondering just how much monkey snot you got.
An empty Redux can weighs 4.5 oz - 128 g
An empty Redux bottle weighs 12.8 oz - 363 g
SteveD.
A217
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Hi all you warm and toasty 912S flyers!
I trust you have not been relying on the cockpit greenhouse to keep your
feet warm...what is the secret to your success?
Is there a common opinion on how to best provide cabin heat with the 912S?
Would it be included in the FWF manual?
Fred, A194
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