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1. 12:58 AM - RE : Nav lights (Auvray)
2. 02:25 AM - Safe disposal of old epoxy (Rick Sivier)
3. 03:32 AM - Re: Safe disposal of old epoxy (Cripps, David)
4. 05:50 AM - Re: nav lights (Paul McAllister)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: nav lights (Cliff Shaw)
6. 09:05 AM - Trailer (Tom Paul)
7. 09:37 AM - Strobes and power consumption (Erich Trombley)
8. 10:49 AM - Re: Trailer (Paul Boulet)
9. 10:51 AM - Europa Trailer (Mike Cater)
10. 11:59 AM - Re: Front Wheel (n3eu@comcast.net)
11. 12:30 PM - Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring (Jim Brown)
12. 12:45 PM - Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring (Jim Brown)
13. 01:04 PM - Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring (Jim Brown)
14. 02:04 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (Dan Bish)
15. 03:41 PM - Re: First Hello to you all... (John & Amy Eckel)
16. 05:10 PM - Fuselage cradle (Fergus Kyle)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Auvray" <m.auvray@aerodyne-int.com>
HI all
I search a Drawings and /or pictures of Haig lockable tailwheel.
If you have in advance thank you.
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Michel AUVRAY
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] De la part de
DJA727@aol.com
Envoy : mardi 28 octobre 2003 22:50
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Europa-List: Nav lights
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
Hi,
I am now in the process of installing nav lights for night flight.
Whelen
sells nav lights for external mounting for a mere $90 each! I saw that
aeroflash
has nav lights for about $50, but I'll be darned if I can find the
source
where I saw that. I am trying to avoid breaking the bank to install a
couple of
simple light sockets behind the Plexiglas covers in the wing tips.
Anybody out there know of a good source for nav lights without
increasing the
national debt?
Thanks,
Dave
A227
Mini U2
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| Subject: | Safe disposal of old epoxy |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rick Sivier" <rick.sivier@btinternet.com>
I have some epoxy which is well past its use-by date and I was wondering how
best to dispose of it. With those big chemical warning stickers on the box,
I doubt that my local tip would take it, so does anyone know of a safe
method of disposal?
Thanks
Rick Sivier
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| Subject: | Safe disposal of old epoxy |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David" <david.Cripps@spsystems.com>
Easiest/safest/most environmentally friendly way to dispose of old epoxy is to
react it with some equally old hardener to make an inert, plastic lump which can
then be disposed of as ordinary waste.
However, take care that the mix does not exotherm if the volumes are too large
as the smell will be terrible. Mix it all up and then tip it into a shallow tray
and leave outside so that all the heat of reaction can escape safely. If it
does still exotherm, lob the whole lot into a bucket of water ( or tip water
onto it) as this will take away the heat and minimise the smell.
David
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From: Rick Sivier [mailto:rick.sivier@btinternet.com]
Subject: Europa-List: Safe disposal of old epoxy
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rick Sivier" <rick.sivier@btinternet.com>
I have some epoxy which is well past its use-by date and I was wondering how
best to dispose of it. With those big chemical warning stickers on the box,
I doubt that my local tip would take it, so does anyone know of a safe
method of disposal?
Thanks
Rick Sivier
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi Fred,
I have not been able to figure out how to meet the FAA requirements for
output and pattern on the tail light so unfortunately that one will be
incandescent. I am confident I can do it on the wing tip light as I have
plenty of room under the lense cover. For strobes I am using a single light
on the fin, not ideal but it will help with power reduction.
At the moment my power calculations roll up to a little less that 11 amps in
cruise at night but until its actually done and flying I won't know if I am
correct. You welcome to a copy of my electrical load calculation spread
sheet if you'd like.
Cheers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred R. Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Subject: Europa-List: nav lights
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fred R. Klein"
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> Paul,
>
> The route you're going with LED's sounds intriging; assume that you'll be
> using an LED in that slick little rudder-tail light you've designed. Tech
> data on the LED specs would be invaluable to the electrically-challenged
> amonst us (including me!).
>
> Can I assume that strobes are out of the question given the limitations on
> the Rotax alternator?
>
> Fred, A194
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Power Worrier
I have flown my 912S powered Europa and tested the power drain. (I built it
with voltage and amperage reading on both the alternator and the battery.)
With every thing turned on (3 Airoflash strobes and incandescent bulbs, 2
fifty watt landing lights, radio, transponder, flight instrument) I had a
positive charge to the battery at cruse. Only when the engine RPM was
dropped down to 3750 did the battery start to show a discharge.
I think that is acceptable.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com>
Well, after much time researching the aluminum trailer market, I have
concluded that there is indeed not easy way to have my monowheel live inside
an enclosed trailer and still be able to pull it with my Subaru. The
choices seem to be either an open trailer, or a bigger car.
As I was about to stop trying though, I did find a guy who builds custom
trailers in southern california who was rather optimistic about my needs
being met.
He says he could probably build a single axle, all aluminum enclosed trailer
that would weigh around 1,500# for about $6k. This money is justifiable if
I consider that I will use it to get my kit to ny from cali as well, thereby
saving what looks to be a $1,500 one-way truck rental expense, and then I
will have the added comfort of towing the completed plane around in a closed
box.
So, what I need from the forum is the recommended dimensions of the box. I
need to send him the exact requirements so he can crunch the numbers and let
me know if it is actually possible.
I think a 20' length would work, based on the over length on the europa
website. True?
What are your recommendations for width and height of the box interior? I
imagine I will make wing and tailplane-hangars on the inside walls, need a
small tool storage area, and need enough space to get to the tie-downs and
such when the plane is inside. It doesn't need to be comfortable, just
serviceable. I will be trying to find the careful balance point between
space and weight.
Thanks for the forthcoming advice!
Tom Paul
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| Subject: | Strobes and power consumption |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Fred writes,
"Can I assume that strobes are out of the question given the limitations on the
Rotax alternator?"
I have a classic complete with 914 and have installed Whelen wingtip strobes and position lights, however, I did not use their power supply, rather I installed a Kuntzleman power supply that uses half of the current of the Whelen power supply. Unlike the Whelen unit which fires both Starboard and Port strobes simultaneously, the Kuntzlemam unit alternates between the two thereby reducing power consumption by half as only one strobes is fired at a time (in a double flash pattern). The unit saves some 3 amps which is significant. I just checked their web site and noticed that they have added a new unit which is three strobe unit for those folks going with a tail strobe in addition to wingtip strobes. You can buy either unit without strobes. Check them out at http://www.kestrobes.com
Regards,
Erich Trombley
N28ET
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
Hi Tom;
Just wanted to let you know I saw a new 24' inside dimensions Haulmark trailer
for sale on ebay for about $2,500. I believe Haulmark sells a lot of their trailers
this way and it's a quality product. I also am having a welder give me
a turnkey price for copying an existing open trailer. It will be built in the
Phoenix area. He could build one for you too at the same time if you wanted.
One solution I thought of was to buy an enclosed trailer and use it as a sort
of garage (since it's nearly impossible to get a building permit in Malibu)
and then just use the open trailer for getting to/from the airfield.
fun eh?
Paul Boulet, N914PB (taxi tests in progress....yaaaaay!)
Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com> wrote:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul
Well, after much time researching the aluminum trailer market, I have
concluded that there is indeed not easy way to have my monowheel live inside
an enclosed trailer and still be able to pull it with my Subaru. The
choices seem to be either an open trailer, or a bigger car.
As I was about to stop trying though, I did find a guy who builds custom
trailers in southern california who was rather optimistic about my needs
being met.
He says he could probably build a single axle, all aluminum enclosed trailer
that would weigh around 1,500# for about $6k. This money is justifiable if
I consider that I will use it to get my kit to ny from cali as well, thereby
saving what looks to be a $1,500 one-way truck rental expense, and then I
will have the added comfort of towing the completed plane around in a closed
box.
So, what I need from the forum is the recommended dimensions of the box. I
need to send him the exact requirements so he can crunch the numbers and let
me know if it is actually possible.
I think a 20' length would work, based on the over length on the europa
website. True?
What are your recommendations for width and height of the box interior? I
imagine I will make wing and tailplane-hangars on the inside walls, need a
small tool storage area, and need enough space to get to the tie-downs and
such when the plane is inside. It doesn't need to be comfortable, just
serviceable. I will be trying to find the careful balance point between
space and weight.
Thanks for the forthcoming advice!
Tom Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Cater" <mike.cater@btopenworld.com>
Hello,
If Europa builders or existing mono-wheel owners in the UK are interested, we have
a fully enclosed, twin axle, trailer/hangar for sale. It housed our Classic
#84 G-BVOW until we recently sold it to someone with space in a fixed hangar.
It comes complete with full one-man rigging kit for a classic mono-wheel. I
used to be able to open the box, rig the a/c on my own, and be ready to go flying
in about 20 minutes.
Please contact me if you are interested and wish to know more.
Mike Cater
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--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
R.C.Harrison wrote:
>
> Hi! Martin.
> Make sure the tyre is well deflated. Use tyre levers to get both sides off
> the bead land.
As long as you don't even sratch the soft aluminum wheel! Potential failure can
cause a serious accident. The typical A&P mechanic here doesen't even own such
a tool...
Best,
Fred F.
>>
>>I am a UK Pulsar builder and am trying to replace my front tyre. This is a
> split rim as per the Europa ( does it just need brute force?) and would like
> to know if anyone has any hints and tips for getting the rims apart and not
> catching the tube on the refit.
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone of the 914 Turbo folk out there had though it worth
while to monitor the airbox temperature. I understand under certain circumstances
that pre detonation can be a problem.
>
> Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Paul
The 914 has a temp sensor on the airbox, that sends a signal of the internal temp
of the airbox to the TCU. If the airbox temp reaches 165 degrees F I thank
that is the target temp!! The TCU will
retard the timing which will then prevent detonation.
Jim Brown
N398JB
Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone of the 914 Turbo folk out there had though it worth
while to monitor the airbox temperature. I understand under certain circumstances
that pre detonation can be a problem.
>
> Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Airbox Temperature monitoring |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Dave;
Please call your guru at Rotax. 25 inches seems to be low. Are you flying with
fixed pitch prop?
I am running the Airmaster prop, and at 17.500 feet I run 5300 RPM and 35
inches of manifold pressure. On Take off at 5800 RPM at full boost I see 40
inches MP.
It would appear, if you are running a C/S prop that the wastgate may not be
closing all the way. Also check that the rubber hose that attaches the airbox to
the carb is tight. You may be losing boost around these two hose's. Mine has
come loose a couple times and then I have a normal aspirated engine,until I
reattach the rubber hose.
Jim Brown
N398JB
DJA727@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 10/23/2003 7:30:48 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> paul.mcallister@qia.net writes:
>
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone of the 914 Turbo folk out there had though it
> > worth while to monitor the airbox temperature. I understand under certain
> > circumstances that pre detonation can be a problem.
> >
>
> I plan on it myself - the airbox temp can limit your power by the automatic
> waste gate control. I am hoping that is why I can only get about 25 inches at
> 17,500 in the warm weather. I used to do better in the cold winter weather. I
> would like to know for sure if that is what is happening. The is where the
> intercooler would allow more power at altitude.
>
> Dave A227
> Mini U2
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
Hi Tom,
Welcome to the fold. I too just bought a partially completed kit from someone in
California. And, since I'm in Tucson, had to go pick it up. I opted to rent
a Penske truck since the U-Hauls seem to be a bit beat up. These trucks don't
have very good suspension so expect to be beat up for your trouble.
I originally rented a 20' truck but they were out the day I picked it up and I
got a 24' for the same price (about $1800 total). Used every foot of it! The thing
just expands when you try to store it and it was definitely easier on the
plane having the extra room.
It'll really help if the seller has cradles for the wings and plan to rent about
2-3 dozen furniture pads as well. I was on the road for 17 hours and made the
trip without a scratch but spent a lot of time securing everything. I know you
have much further to go so don't know if you're thinking about buying a trailer
in CA and towing it back, but hope some of this helps.
Dan
A144
Tucson, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: First Hello to you all... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
A couple years ago I brought an antique ragwing biplane east from Lordsburg,
NM.
Because of problems we had to take it apart and load it in a U-Haul, 25 foot
as I remember.
We wrapped the wings and tail pieces in home fiberglass insulation held on
with duct tape.
Worked great and no damage.
John, A230
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Hello to you all...
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> Welcome to the fold. I too just bought a partially completed kit from
someone in California. And, since I'm in Tucson, had to go pick it up. I
opted to rent a Penske truck since the U-Hauls seem to be a bit beat up.
These trucks don't have very good suspension so expect to be beat up for
your trouble.
>
> I originally rented a 20' truck but they were out the day I picked it up
and I got a 24' for the same price (about $1800 total). Used every foot of
it! The thing just expands when you try to store it and it was definitely
easier on the plane having the extra room.
>
> It'll really help if the seller has cradles for the wings and plan to rent
about 2-3 dozen furniture pads as well. I was on the road for 17 hours and
made the trip without a scratch but spent a lot of time securing everything.
I know you have much further to go so don't know if you're thinking about
buying a trailer in CA and towing it back, but hope some of this helps.
>
> Dan
> A144
> Tucson, AZ
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
I realise this may be a long shot, but I have built both the
"egg-crate" cradle from (I think) Pops Popenoe and the rolling cradle which
I understand originated with Europa.
Each has its qualities and I have used both, but now want to use
the latter design as it fits more easily into my quarters. HOWEVER, some
kind soul sent out a message (or wrote it in one of the periodicals) to the
effect that there was a correction to the rear internal dimensions.
I can't find the article and hope someone in ether-land has the
answer. If so I would appreciate the details as will be wheeling the
b______r into the 'factory' shortly.
Ferg
mono #A064
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