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1. 02:00 AM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (Ami McFadyean)
2. 06:08 AM - Re: buying a built XS (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
3. 07:02 AM - Trigear bearing spacers (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
4. 09:21 AM - Re: Trigear bearing spacers (R.C.Harrison)
5. 09:28 AM - LUNCHTIME FLY-INS (bryan allsop)
6. 09:28 AM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (bryan allsop)
7. 09:28 AM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (bryan allsop)
8. 09:43 AM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (R.C.Harrison)
9. 10:00 AM - Re: Trigear bearing spacers (John & Amy Eckel)
10. 10:17 AM - Pip pin covers - and lunch fly-ins (david.corbett)
11. 10:36 AM - Re: filler (Ami McFadyean)
12. 10:56 AM - Re: LUNCHTIME FLY-INS (Ami McFadyean)
13. 11:40 AM - Re: Trigear bearing spacers (John & Amy Eckel)
14. 01:30 PM - Re: Trigear bearing spacers (Rowland Carson)
15. 01:55 PM - re-directed posting (Rowland Carson)
16. 02:09 PM - Lunchtime Fly-ins (bryan allsop)
17. 11:02 PM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (William Mills)
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| Subject: | Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Isn't Cark closed for resurfacing?
D McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Bryan.
> Can't claim to be retired yet but the wife says she thinks I am AND I'm
> spending her pension when I fly!
> Keep me posted when and where?
> Suggest Cark one day when I can get over the Pennines!
> I have a friend in Windermere and he collects me and we have a lunch in
"t
> 'ole int' Wall. "
> Cark (Grange over Sands) is used by a parachute club but they make you
very
> welcome. I have all the details .
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG EUropa MKI/Jabiru 3300
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently retired
I
> am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one).
> > Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere and
> meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take advantage
> of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a month.
> > Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re
> arrange it to find a good day.
> > I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it
in
> the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea!
> >
> > Bryan Allsop. G BYSA
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: buying a built XS |
11/08/2003 09:07:31 AM,
Serialize complete at 11/08/2003 09:07:31 AM
--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
When you visit the plane you should be accompanied by a fellow
builder/owner.
It is hard to find A&Ps that know anything about fiberglass. The trick in
the Europa
is that much of the structural work is inacessible once complete so what
you have to
go on is photos during contruction and the quality of the non-hidden
workmanship.
I would also think that many hours of flying (>50) is somewhat reassuring.
Ira N224XS nearly finished!
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Hi all,
I am considering the purchase of a pre-built and
currently flying Europa XS. I was curious if there are
any "gotchas" I should look out for, and if you have any idea what
kind of support I might expect from the company and possibly
builders/owners here in the US (northeast).
Any comments or suggestions are welcome.
Thanks,
-Dj
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| Subject: | Trigear bearing spacers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Greetings all,
After a busy fall with our glider tow operation I'm finally getting back to
my Europa. It's time for it to come out of the cradle and stand on it's own.
I've found what I believe is an error in the manual.
Regarding the main gear, my manual mentions using bearing spacers, but
doesn't say what the part number is. The nose gear refers to them as "Euro 14",
although elsewhere it refers to them as W-14. I have 2, W-14's, but no "Euro 14's.
The nose gear appears to take two, one each on the outside of the bearing to
hold it in place. The drawing for the main gear just shows "bearing spacer"
(handwritten on the drawing) but doesn't give the part number. Either way I'm
probably short 2. Does anybody know the story here?
Also, my manual doesn't give a part number for the bolt used for the nose
gear axle. Does anybody know the part number for this?
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245
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| Subject: | Re: Trigear bearing spacers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! John.
I think that you'll find the inboard spacer on both maingear wheel bearings
is the brake /bush assembly. Therefore if I recall correctly there isn't a
separate bush (or if there is a specially dedicated spacer then there is
only one each side.) since the wheel nut and washer serves as the outer
spacer.
Sounds like you may already have set the toe in , but if not, IMHO the "toe
in" setting needs to allow for a bigger change when the 'plane is loaded.
For instance it would be better set with the unuseable fuel ,engine oils and
if applicable also coolant and a light weight pilot and wings fitted
supported by the fuselage, so that when fully loaded the "toe in" is least
possible or at least less than the manual says? Anyone like to comment?
My a/c is currently on the 3rd set of main gear tyres and already they are
half worn out. (Only approx 450 hours and lots of long flights in that too!
IMHO there is a distinct possibility that an "adjustable" mod. could be
developed.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300.
----- Original Message -----
From: <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Trigear bearing spacers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>
> Greetings all,
>
> After a busy fall with our glider tow operation I'm finally getting back
to
> my Europa. It's time for it to come out of the cradle and stand on it's
own.
> I've found what I believe is an error in the manual.
>
> Regarding the main gear, my manual mentions using bearing spacers, but
> doesn't say what the part number is. The nose gear refers to them as "Euro
14",
> although elsewhere it refers to them as W-14. I have 2, W-14's, but no
"Euro 14's.
> The nose gear appears to take two, one each on the outside of the bearing
to
> hold it in place. The drawing for the main gear just shows "bearing
spacer"
> (handwritten on the drawing) but doesn't give the part number. Either way
I'm
> probably short 2. Does anybody know the story here?
>
> Also, my manual doesn't give a part number for the bolt used for the nose
> gear axle. Does anybody know the part number for this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton
> Dunlap, TN
> A-245
>
>
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| Subject: | LUNCHTIME FLY-INS |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
I have re-christened the header for this subject to avoid being accused of prejudice
against our noble 'working' members. Indeed! I must confess to getting my
hands soiled occasionally, even now.
From the Flyer the alternative 'free' landing airfields for November are:-
1. Bodmin.
2. Bourne.
3. Sherburn-in-Elmet.
4. Tatenhill.
Bodmin could be a longish stretch for a winters day for some. Tatenhill has no
clubhouse as I recall. So it would be a choice between Bourne and Sherburn.
Personally I would prefer Bourne for our first shot because of it's central position
to many people.
Any further views are welcome.
Best regards. Bryan Allsop
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| Subject: | Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Sorry about the 'retired' bit, it seems to have bothered others. No, you do
not need to be retired, you just need to be Europa equiped.
I was thinking about myself ,I'm afraid, and how to get some purposefull
flying into the months when nothing else seems to be happening. Please join
in.
Best regards...Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
>
> do we have to be retired to qualify for your offer ???
>
> Otherwise i will have to wait for a little while longer ( or a long while
if
> this government has its way !!!)
>
> I often have Wednesdays off (just need a helping hand to help me rig)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently retired
I
> am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one).
> > Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere and
> meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take advantage
> of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a month.
> > Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re
> arrange it to find a good day.
> > I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it
in
> the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea!
> >
> > Bryan Allsop. G BYSA
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Bob.
I guess that you and I could be the organising committee. Bagsie Chairman
tho'. Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
<ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Bryan.
> Can't claim to be retired yet but the wife says she thinks I am AND I'm
> spending her pension when I fly!
> Keep me posted when and where?
> Suggest Cark one day when I can get over the Pennines!
> I have a friend in Windermere and he collects me and we have a lunch in
"t
> 'ole int' Wall. "
> Cark (Grange over Sands) is used by a parachute club but they make you
very
> welcome. I have all the details .
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG EUropa MKI/Jabiru 3300
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently retired
I
> am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one).
> > Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere and
> meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take advantage
> of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a month.
> > Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re
> arrange it to find a good day.
> > I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it
in
> the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea!
> >
> > Bryan Allsop. G BYSA
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi!All
Cark isn't closed for fly in .... I've just checked the Parachute home
number is 01229 889516 Week day number is
01539958672. My Friend is Peter Spinks his number is 01539 448290 If
numbers are involved he would probably hire a people carrier or even a taxi
if he was fully re-imbursed.
The field frequency is 129.90 air to ground but the parachute guys will
probably answer and advise the status of the JUMP in progress. Needless to
say keep clear until advised. I think the runway is 06/24. Tarmac but
displaced at both ends with some loose tarmac and gravel.
Bob H G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Isn't Cark closed for resurfacing?
>
> D McF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
> <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
> >
> > Hi! Bryan.
> > Can't claim to be retired yet but the wife says she thinks I am AND I'm
> > spending her pension when I fly!
> > Keep me posted when and where?
> > Suggest Cark one day when I can get over the Pennines!
> > I have a friend in Windermere and he collects me and we have a lunch in
> "t
> > 'ole int' Wall. "
> > Cark (Grange over Sands) is used by a parachute club but they make you
> very
> > welcome. I have all the details .
> > Regards
> > Bob Harrison G-PTAG EUropa MKI/Jabiru 3300
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> > To: "europa club mail" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> > <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> > >
> > > The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently
retired
> I
> > am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one).
> > > Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere
and
> > meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take
advantage
> > of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a
month.
> > > Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re
> > arrange it to find a good day.
> > > I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it
> in
> > the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea!
> > >
> > > Bryan Allsop. G BYSA
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trigear bearing spacers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Hello John.
Issue 36, Page 11 has some info on the tri-gear. They refer to pg 29-18,
but in my book it is 27T-15, issue 2. The correction states that the torque
value given
should be 100 lb ins, not 50 lb ins. It also says there is no spacer. The
inner bearing will
butt against the tube of the brake torque plate MG02. My page does not
show a spacer.
Pg 29T-17, issue 1 of my manual shows a part EUR014 and I do have them. I
also have
a part # M12X170 which is a 12mm x 170mm Cap head bolt ( needs and allen
wrench).
It appears to be the right part because it fits the NG06 spacers.
Thanks for the question, making me look this up now will save me work later.
As an aside, I had my larger parts in boxes and would have to search each
box to
find a part, real time waiter. One day I sat down and pored each box on the
floor
and put each part number into a spread sheet and alphabetized them. I put
the parts in
small boxes with a list for that box. Now when I need a part I go to each
box and
look at the list. This has saved mucho time. FWIW
John, A230
----- Original Message -----
From: <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Trigear bearing spacers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
>
> Greetings all,
>
> After a busy fall with our glider tow operation I'm finally getting back
to
> my Europa. It's time for it to come out of the cradle and stand on it's
own.
> I've found what I believe is an error in the manual.
>
> Regarding the main gear, my manual mentions using bearing spacers, but
> doesn't say what the part number is. The nose gear refers to them as "Euro
14",
> although elsewhere it refers to them as W-14. I have 2, W-14's, but no
"Euro 14's.
> The nose gear appears to take two, one each on the outside of the bearing
to
> hold it in place. The drawing for the main gear just shows "bearing
spacer"
> (handwritten on the drawing) but doesn't give the part number. Either way
I'm
> probably short 2. Does anybody know the story here?
>
> Also, my manual doesn't give a part number for the bolt used for the nose
> gear axle. Does anybody know the part number for this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards,
>
> John Lawton
> Dunlap, TN
> A-245
>
>
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| Subject: | Pip pin covers - and lunch fly-ins |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "david.corbett" <david.corbett@fwi.co.uk>
For Mike G:
The simplest pip pin cover is Tessa Tape - as used by the gliding fraternity to
seal aileron joints, etc. I also use it to seal my speed kit fairings, and the
wing/fuselage joint. Very tidy, very quick, and leaves no significant mark when
removed. AFE at Kidlington, amongst others, can supply.
For Bryan A:
Count me in - and put our airfield here (Shobdon) on the "must visit" list.
David
G-BZAM UK 265
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
A long (2 m) straight edge, flexible 2' straight edge and Mk 1 eyeball.
DMcF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: filler
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> On 2003 11 07 at 21:08 +0000, Ami McFadyean wrote:
>
> >I made a contour map of the flying surfaces
>
> Duncan - please tell us how you did that - with one of those laser
> scanner things maybe?
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: LUNCHTIME FLY-INS |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Or, Pilot magazine has free landings at:
Andrewsfield, Eaglescott, Lashenden, Sandtoft, Le Touquet and Weston,
Ireland
for November.
Three of those (A, L and Le T) could be done in a day!
DMcF
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: LUNCHTIME FLY-INS
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
<info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> I have re-christened the header for this subject to avoid being accused of
prejudice against our noble 'working' members. Indeed! I must confess to
getting my hands soiled occasionally, even now.
> From the Flyer the alternative 'free' landing airfields for November are:-
> 1. Bodmin.
> 2. Bourne.
> 3. Sherburn-in-Elmet.
> 4. Tatenhill.
> Bodmin could be a longish stretch for a winters day for some. Tatenhill
has no clubhouse as I recall. So it would be a choice between Bourne and
Sherburn.
> Personally I would prefer Bourne for our first shot because of it's
central position to many people.
> Any further views are welcome.
>
> Best regards. Bryan Allsop
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trigear bearing spacers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Two errors in my last post.
The "Issue 36" is the Europa News the company puts out.
The page "27T-15" I refer to is 29T-15
John, A230
Once I thought I made and mistake, but I found I was wrong.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trigear bearing spacers
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
>
> Hello John.
>
> Issue 36, Page 11 has some info on the tri-gear. They refer to pg 29-18,
> but in my book it is 27T-15, issue 2. The correction states that the
torque
> value given
> should be 100 lb ins, not 50 lb ins. It also says there is no spacer.
The
> inner bearing will
> butt against the tube of the brake torque plate MG02. My page does not
> show a spacer.
> Pg 29T-17, issue 1 of my manual shows a part EUR014 and I do have them. I
> also have
> a part # M12X170 which is a 12mm x 170mm Cap head bolt ( needs and allen
> wrench).
> It appears to be the right part because it fits the NG06 spacers.
>
> Thanks for the question, making me look this up now will save me work
later.
>
> As an aside, I had my larger parts in boxes and would have to search each
> box to
> find a part, real time waiter. One day I sat down and pored each box on
the
> floor
> and put each part number into a spread sheet and alphabetized them. I put
> the parts in
> small boxes with a list for that box. Now when I need a part I go to each
> box and
> look at the list. This has saved mucho time. FWIW
>
> John, A230
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Trigear bearing spacers
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
> >
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > After a busy fall with our glider tow operation I'm finally getting back
> to
> > my Europa. It's time for it to come out of the cradle and stand on it's
> own.
> > I've found what I believe is an error in the manual.
> >
> > Regarding the main gear, my manual mentions using bearing spacers, but
> > doesn't say what the part number is. The nose gear refers to them as
"Euro
> 14",
> > although elsewhere it refers to them as W-14. I have 2, W-14's, but no
> "Euro 14's.
> > The nose gear appears to take two, one each on the outside of the
bearing
> to
> > hold it in place. The drawing for the main gear just shows "bearing
> spacer"
> > (handwritten on the drawing) but doesn't give the part number. Either
way
> I'm
> > probably short 2. Does anybody know the story here?
> >
> > Also, my manual doesn't give a part number for the bolt used for the
nose
> > gear axle. Does anybody know the part number for this?
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > John Lawton
> > Dunlap, TN
> > A-245
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trigear bearing spacers |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 11 08 at 12:59 -0500, John & Amy Eckel wrote:
>I sat down and pored each box on the
>floor
>and put each part number into a spread sheet and alphabetized them
Europa Club members get that spreadsheet (all [monowheel] airframe
parts) plus a cross-reference to all [monowheel] manual pages on the
CD-ROM when they join.
>This has saved mucho time
I agree with that!
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | re-directed posting |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Graham Higgins tried to make this posting, but sent it to the
now-defunct Europa Forum address. We have a basket in place there to
catch the occasional error like this, but not for much longer!
Graham, and anyone else who might still have
<forum@europaclub.org.uk> in your address book, please delete that
entry now!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Brodie" <paulbrodie@btclick.com>
Subject: Re: [Europa Forum]: Tie downs
> Steve,
> I have put forward a design for wing tie downs using W18 plates to the
> PFA.The modification has been
> proven up to 80 kts wind speed by Barry Mellors and I hope to receive full
> approval in the near future.
> Please contact me with your address or fax number if you would like a
copy.
> Regards,
> Paul Brodie
> #396 XS Tri-gear G-BYFG.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ScramIt@aol.com>
> To: <forum@europaclub.org.uk>
> Sent: 11 July 2002 01:47
> Subject: [Europa Forum]: Tie downs
>
>
> > Hello again,
> >
> > Looking at installing some tie downs on a monowheel. I'm going to make a
> set
> > of flush retractables. One on each wing and one in the tail. Has anyone
> done
> > this? I don't think it will be too hard, but if I don't have to reinvent
> the
> > wheel, that would be nice. Also where on the wing is the best place for
> both
> > the Mono and the trigrear? I'll be working on installing on both types.
> > The retractables are just over balanced plates with a hole in one end.
> Poke
> > at it and it pops out let go and the see-saw action pulls it up into the
> wing.
> >
> > SteveD
> > A217
> > http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/Europa.html
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| Subject: | Lunchtime Fly-ins |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Ok folks! Lets put flesh on the bones.
I like David's idea of selecting the next organiser at each fly-in. As he says,
the task is not a demanding one, and it will bring a fresh outlook to each venue.
Bob clearly has ideas to explore, that is good, and I have no doubt that Cark will
soon be the venue. Meanwhile, I am proposing that we have a shot at Bourne
for 12noon (local) next wednesday 12th.Nov. This will give us a chance to have
a good chat, a snack, and still be home before dark.
Even if only a handfull of us make it, it will still be very worthwhile. Hopefully
a few more will turn up. My forcaster is suggesting an average to good day
for aviating on Wednesday.
Bryan A, (Looks like I wil have to start buying the Pilot mag).
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| Subject: | Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
That sounds like a very good idea, Brian. You can certainly include me.
Best wishes,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
<info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently retired I
am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one).
> Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere and
meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take advantage
of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a month.
> Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re
arrange it to find a good day.
> I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it in
the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea!
>
> Bryan Allsop. G BYSA
>
>
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