---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/09/03: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 AM - Re: Lunchtime Fly-ins (David Watts) 2. 02:26 AM - : LUNCHTIME FLY-INS (Graham Singleton) 3. 06:06 AM - Spar Guide (Alan Stills) 4. 06:28 AM - First flight N6125A (Curtis Jaussi) 5. 08:10 AM - Re: Spar Guide (R.C.Harrison) 6. 08:22 AM - OIl pressure at Start (DJA727@aol.com) 7. 09:04 AM - Re: First flight N6125A (Europa Aircraft) 8. 09:19 AM - Re: OIl pressure at Start (Fergus Kyle) 9. 10:34 AM - EGT (paul stewart) 10. 11:43 AM - Re: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans (Dari Sagar) 11. 12:34 PM - Re: OIl pressure at Start (Jim Brown) 12. 12:41 PM - Re: EGT (Jim Brown) 13. 01:18 PM - Re: pip pin covers/mods (Jeremy Davey) 14. 01:30 PM - Re: filler (Jeremy Davey) 15. 02:05 PM - Re: pip pin covers/mods (DaveBuzz@aol.com) 16. 03:13 PM - Re: pip pin covers/mods (Jeremy Davey) 17. 04:08 PM - Flush mount trim servo? (Ronald J. Parigoris) 18. 04:10 PM - Re: Flush mount trim servo? (Ronald J. Parigoris) 19. 04:53 PM - Re: First flight N6125A (Paul Boulet) 20. 05:16 PM - Re: Spar Guide (Alan Stills) 21. 09:53 PM - Re: OIl pressure at Start (DJA727@aol.com) 22. 09:59 PM - Re: OIl pressure at Start (DJA727@aol.com) 23. 10:34 PM - Re: First flight N6125A (Tom Paul) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:14 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lunchtime Fly-ins --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" Bryan, the last few times that I have been to Bourne (admitted not for about a year) there were no snack facilities, and during the week we had to make drinks ourselves. (Unfortunately I will probably not be available this coming Wednesday). Dave Watts. P.S. You should also get Todays Pilot magazine as they do free landings plus free lunch vouchers, although the current issue does not contain any. > Bob clearly has ideas to explore, that is good, and I have no doubt that Cark will soon be the venue. Meanwhile, I am proposing that we have a shot at Bourne for 12noon (local) next wednesday 12th.Nov. This will give us a chance to have a good chat, a snack, and still be home before dark. > Even if only a handfull of us make it, it will still be very worthwhile. Hopefully a few more will turn up. My forcaster is suggesting an average to good day for aviating on Wednesday. > Bryan A, (Looks like I wil have to start buying the Pilot mag). ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:17 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: : LUNCHTIME FLY-INS --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 08/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Bodmin could be a longish stretch for a winters day for some. Tatenhill has no >clubhouse as I recall. So it would be a choice between Bourne and Sherburn. >Personally I would prefer Bourne for our first shot because of it's >central position >to many people. >Best regards. Bryan Allsop Bryan I think Tatenhill do have a clubhouse now (again). Ring 01283 575 283 and ask Graham --- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:55 AM PST US From: "Alan Stills" Subject: Europa-List: Spar Guide --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" Curious what others have used for a spar guide for the port and starboard spars? I would assume that there is a lot of twisting pressure while flying. Also how did you attach it? With redux or bolt in. Al Stills A095 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:27 AM PST US From: Curtis Jaussi Subject: Europa-List: First flight N6125A --> Europa-List message posted by: Curtis Jaussi After two years of building and much enjoyment, N6125A :A216 maid it's maiden flight on Saturday Nov. 8 2003. What a thrill it is !!! The only glitch was not enough tension on the shimmy damper that was found during high speed taxi tests. I now know what is meant by the Europa Grin.!! This forum has been invaluable during the build and I thank everyone who contributes. I have taken lots out and not put much in, and plan on changing that. What a beautiful kit and aircraft! Curtis Jaussi Vernal, Utah N6125A A216 jaussi@direcway.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:10:07 AM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar Guide --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! Alan. I have used the 1/2" Avdel pip pins through both seat backs and packed them forward with packing washers so the pip pin balls just lock. That way the spars must stay snug in place. Also for ease of one man rigging I have made "engagement ramps" on the starboard seat back socket(which receives the port spar tip) by welding and extending the entrances to the socket with 1" ANGLE MATERIAL of similar gauge material wich are also reduxed to the seat bulkhead. This ensures that the port spa has to engage the starboard socket by holding the wing tip aft for the spa to pivot forwards as it is pushed home over the wear strip at the bottom ledge of the access hole in the fuselage on the port side. This also presumes that you have installed the "cuff" around the port spa to receive the starboard spa. Hope you understand this? if not call my land line on 0044 1472 852498. regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Stills" Subject: Europa-List: Spar Guide > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" > > Curious what others have used for a spar guide for the port and starboard spars? I would assume that there is a lot of twisting pressure while flying. Also how did you attach it? With redux or bolt in. > > Al Stills > A095 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:22:32 AM PST US From: DJA727@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com The weather has recently turned from summer to winter here (in about 12 hours!). I have made two starts and flights during the cold weather and noticed a strange oil pressure reading. At start, the oil pressure comes up normally to about 60. Then, in the first 3 to 4 minutes, it slowly decreases -- in one case to about 20 and in the other case to about 38. The 20 case was colder weather than the 38. When I am about to turn around and taxi back in, the oil pressure starts to rise and in about 30 seconds it returns to the normal 55 to 60 psi. After the first time, I let the engine cool after flight to about 100 degrees F oil temp and did a restart. In that case, the oil pressure comes up to normal 55 to 60 and just stays there. I am not sure if this is something that has been going on all along and I just noticed it, or a new problem or even a problem at all. It seems to be temperature related and acts like a sticking or a slow oil pressure control valve. Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? Thanks, Dave A227 Mini U2 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:22 AM PST US From: Europa Aircraft Subject: Re: Europa-List: First flight N6125A --> Europa-List message posted by: Europa Aircraft Curtis, Let me be the first to congradulate you! Happy Flying! John Hurst Europa Aircraft Lakeland, FL -----Original Message----- From: Curtis Jaussi Subject: Europa-List: First flight N6125A --> Europa-List message posted by: Curtis Jaussi After two years of building and much enjoyment, N6125A :A216 maid it's maiden flight on Saturday Nov. 8 2003. What a thrill it is !!! The only glitch was not enough tension on the shimmy damper that was found during high speed taxi tests. I now know what is meant by the Europa Grin.!! This forum has been invaluable during the build and I thank everyone who contributes. I have taken lots out and not put much in, and plan on changing that. What a beautiful kit and aircraft! Curtis Jaussi Vernal, Utah N6125A A216 jaussi@direcway.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:19:37 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" Dave, What engine? It may be that cold oil slows the output until it reaches the heating area and then once through, resumes normal readings. this is true for every engine in which Start is not preceded by pre-oil or preheat circulation. In some engines, (PW wasp on harvard) a cutoff valve shorts the radiator until the engine oil shows temp, then it is released to let cold oil pass through the engine - IF memory serves. Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start | --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com | | The weather has recently turned from summer to winter here (in about 12 | hours!). I have made two starts and flights during the cold weather and noticed a | strange oil pressure reading. At start, the oil pressure comes up normally to | about 60. Then, in the first 3 to 4 minutes, it slowly decreases -- in one case | to about 20 and in the other case to about 38. The 20 case was colder weather | than the 38. When I am about to turn around and taxi back in, the oil | pressure starts to rise and in about 30 seconds it returns to the normal 55 to 60 | psi. | | After the first time, I let the engine cool after flight to about 100 degrees | F oil temp and did a restart. In that case, the oil pressure comes up to | normal 55 to 60 and just stays there. | | I am not sure if this is something that has been going on all along and I | just noticed it, or a new problem or even a problem at all. It seems to be | temperature related and acts like a sticking or a slow oil pressure control valve. | | Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? | | Thanks, | | Dave | A227 | Mini U2 | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:34:30 AM PST US From: "paul stewart" Subject: Europa-List: EGT --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" Are many folks monitoring EGT on Rotax installations (914 in particular) - if so using what probes? Regards paul ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:04 AM PST US From: "Dari Sagar" Subject: Re: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dari Sagar" Bryan, What a great idea. I've wound down and only doing two days a week.....usually Tuesdays and Wednesdays, so give me a ring when you next plan a trip. Or better still, why not fly into Bidford-on-Avon and have cuppa or a bite of lunch. I could email details if needed. Regards to Sylvija. Darius >From: "bryan allsop" >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: "europa club mail" >Subject: Europa-List: lunchtime fly-ins for retired Europans >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 08:10:50 -0000 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" > > >The days are getting shorter now in the UK, but having recently retired I >am finding more time to play with my toy ( the flying one). >Wouldn't it be nice to fly somewhere for a lunchtime snack somewhere and >meet up with some similarly retired Europa fliers. We could take advantage >of the Flyer magazine's free landing fee offers a couple of times a month. >Even if the weather looks to be unpleasant on the set day, we could re >arrange it to find a good day. >I do not mind putting it together if any body else fancies a go at it in >the next week or so. Please reply if you like the idea! > >Bryan Allsop. G BYSA > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:34:08 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown Dave I had oil pressure swings at one time, for no apparent reason, while in flight, and also on the ground. However the swings were in the normal temperatures here in Fl. which is in the mid 90's most of the time. I replaced the oil pressure sender, which solved my problem. Jim Brown DJA727@aol.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com > > The weather has recently turned from summer to winter here (in about 12 > hours!). I have made two starts and flights during the cold weather and noticed a > strange oil pressure reading. At start, the oil pressure comes up normally to > about 60. Then, in the first 3 to 4 minutes, it slowly decreases -- in one case > to about 20 and in the other case to about 38. The 20 case was colder weather > than the 38. When I am about to turn around and taxi back in, the oil > pressure starts to rise and in about 30 seconds it returns to the normal 55 to 60 > psi. > > After the first time, I let the engine cool after flight to about 100 degrees > F oil temp and did a restart. In that case, the oil pressure comes up to > normal 55 to 60 and just stays there. > > I am not sure if this is something that has been going on all along and I > just noticed it, or a new problem or even a problem at all. It seems to be > temperature related and acts like a sticking or a slow oil pressure control valve. > > Does anybody have any experience with this sort of thing? > > Thanks, > > Dave > A227 > Mini U2 > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:42 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: EGT --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown Paul I'm using the EGT probes supplied by Grand Rapids Technology with their EIS. They just screw into the threaded boss welded on the exhaust pipes of the 914. Jim Brown paul stewart wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart" > > Are many folks monitoring EGT on Rotax installations (914 in particular) - if so using what probes? > > Regards > > paul > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 01:18:03 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: pip pin covers/mods --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Mike, Sure - mention 10712 on G-EZZA. Approved, executed and signed-off. Unfortunately Francis approved it for This A/C Only - but if you can convince him otherwise you're welcome to a copy and a set of plumbing bits for making the fittings - I've got loads of spares. Regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Subject: Europa-List: pip pin covers/mods --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" I'm sure there are numerous simple designs for pip pin covers. Mine centres around a plastic plumbing pipe screwed end with mating plug. If any have actually been approved by the PFA I can refer to same on my application so I would appreciate receiving detail of such. Incidentally do club modifications which have been cleared still require notifying to the PFA? ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:49 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: filler --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" Duncan, That's excellent info - many thanks. I've copied the list as I think it will most definitely be of interest to some. Kind regards, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA -----Original Message----- From: Ami McFadyean [mailto:ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk] Subject: Re: Europa-List: filler Jeremy, My standard mix was 17ml of epoxy (which was 19g or 1 pump of the Michael Engineering resin pump) + 15ml of fume silica (Aerosil) + 17ml of Q-cell + 120ml of Expancel. The Expancel was measured in a cup of known capacity with the 'powder' lightly packed in to the cup; this light compaction was merely to remove large air voids between the clumps of raw Expancel. This mixes up like 'breadcrumbs' and looks too dry to go on. But if the mixing process is energetically extended there comes a point where the whole lot seems to suddenly plasticise into a doughy consistency. The problem with all this is that there is no specific lexicon to describe what is happening; hence adjectives borrowed from the baking industry!. The mix has a density of 0.316g/cc, which is lighter than Superfill's 0.44 g/cc. But still ten times heavier than blue foam! In case you are tempted to let your final primer-filler do the filling, the latter weighs 2.1g/cc. I would not go with such a light mix again. Try leaving out the Q-cell as a start. There were times when I thought I could push this mix leaner, only to come unstuck on one occasion resulting in stripping the filler off and starting again. Also, with the ultra lean mixes, the homogenisation of the mix (despite appearances and mixing for ages) is not always perfect, resulting in some dry spots that wouldn't harden properly. Another thing is that the lightweight filler scratches quite easily when sanded. Those scratches are then by default filled with primer-filler, which is much heavier than even epoxy. So might as well add some extra epoxy into the filler to start with! So I reckon the above recipe is as lean as you can go. One other thing you may find useful, when sanding hte above mix, the underlying substrate becomes just visible when the filler is 1/4 mm thick. Hope this helps. Duncan. PS publish this if you think it may help others. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: FW: Europa-List: filler > Duncan, > > I am indeed most interested in your ratios! > > Cheers, > Jeremy > > Jeremy Davey > > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean > Sent: 06 November 2003 20:03 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: filler > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeremy Davey" > > > Has anyone who's used Expancel correctly done any experiments to work out > > the ideal ratio of filler to resin by weight? > > > > Depends how much of a struggle you want to accept in putting on a > lightweight filler, or struggle in sanding-off a heavy weight filler. > > The other problem with lightweight filler (ie the stuff made with Expancel) > is that it marks very easily (and permanently) in service. I wouldn't do > mine so light again. > > A tip for mixing hte lightweight option is to pound it vigorously for > several minutes. There comes a point when the mix goes from appearing too > dry to a plastic putty-like consistency, which is much easier to spread. The > addition of fume silica helps this greatly. Let me know if you're interested > in the ratios I used (which might answer your original question!). > > > Duncan McF. > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 02:05:53 PM PST US From: DaveBuzz@aol.com Subject: RE: Europa-List: pip pin covers/mods --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com <> Jeremy, bring some bits with you to Odiham - Mike's coming on thursday too. chus, dave ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:13:32 PM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: pip pin covers/mods --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" 10-4... Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DaveBuzz@aol.com Subject: RE: Europa-List: pip pin covers/mods --> Europa-List message posted by: DaveBuzz@aol.com <> Jeremy, bring some bits with you to Odiham - Mike's coming on thursday too. chus, dave ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:08:27 PM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Flush mount trim servo? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Just bout ready to mount Ray Allen Miniature T4-5 servo to my port aileron. http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/servos.html I am thinking pretty hard about mounting and leaving the base with the 4 holes mounted on top of the skin and just fill so things are flush. So the servo would be painted and in the slip stream. Planning on mounting between the mass balance arms, and actuating a piece of hinge bout 9 inches wide, but with sloped smooth rounded corners. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:00 PM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flush mount trim servo? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Clarification The servo is to be mounted on the bottom of the aileron, with the horn coming out the bottom. I am thinking about flush mounting servo to bottom of aileron. "Ronald J. Parigoris" wrote: > Just bout ready to mount Ray Allen Miniature T4-5 servo to my port aileron. > > http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/servos.html > > I am thinking pretty hard about mounting and leaving the base with the 4 holes > mounted on top of the skin and just fill so things are flush. > > So the servo would be painted and in the slip stream. > > Planning on mounting between the mass balance arms, and actuating a piece of > hinge bout 9 inches wide, but with sloped smooth rounded corners. > > Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:53:25 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: First flight N6125A --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Congrats Curtis. Many hapy hours flying to you Paul Boulet do not archive Curtis Jaussi wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: Curtis Jaussi After two years of building and much enjoyment, N6125A :A216 maid it's maiden flight on Saturday Nov. 8 2003. What a thrill it is !!! The only glitch was not enough tension on the shimmy damper that was found during high speed taxi tests. I now know what is meant by the Europa Grin.!! This forum has been invaluable during the build and I thank everyone who contributes. I have taken lots out and not put much in, and plan on changing that. What a beautiful kit and aircraft! Curtis Jaussi Vernal, Utah N6125A A216 jaussi@direcway.com ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:04 PM PST US From: "Alan Stills" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar Guide --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" Thanks for the info, I went ahead and flox'd a piece of angle to the bottom on port and starboard side (I had to raise a littl to get pin placement right). Also thinking I will flox a piece of ply to the top to hold that in place. Al Stills A095 ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar Guide > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" > > Hi! Alan. > I have used the 1/2" Avdel pip pins through both seat backs and packed them > forward with packing washers so the pip pin balls just lock. That way the > spars must stay snug in place. Also for ease of one man rigging I have made > "engagement ramps" on the starboard seat back socket(which receives the port > spar tip) by welding and extending the entrances to the socket with 1" > ANGLE MATERIAL of similar gauge material wich are also reduxed to the seat > bulkhead. > This ensures that the port spa has to engage the starboard socket by holding > the wing tip aft for the spa to pivot forwards as it is pushed home over the > wear strip at the bottom ledge of the access hole in the fuselage on the > port side. > This also presumes that you have installed the "cuff" around the port spa to > receive the starboard spa. > Hope you understand this? if not call my land line on 0044 1472 852498. > > regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Stills" > To: > Subject: Europa-List: Spar Guide > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" > > > > > Curious what others have used for a spar guide for the port and starboard > spars? I would assume that there is a lot of twisting pressure while flying. > Also how did you attach it? With redux or bolt in. > > > > Al Stills > > A095 > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:51 PM PST US From: DJA727@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com In a message dated 11/9/2003 9:20:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, VE3LVO@rac.ca writes: > Dave, > What engine? > It may be that cold oil slows the output until it reaches the > heating area and then once through, resumes normal readings. this is true > for every engine in which Start is not preceded by pre-oil or preheat > circulation. > In some engines, (PW wasp on harvard) a cutoff valve shorts the > radiator until the engine oil shows temp, then it is released to let cold > oil pass through the engine - IF memory serves. > Ferg > It is the 914 engine. There is a several second delay before the oil pressure reads, then it looks completely normal, until after a few minutes it heads down slowly and steadily. I am not really sure what is going on here. I have never seen an engine do this before. I am tempted to remove the pressure regulating valve and clean it in case it may somehow sticking. Dave ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:59:18 PM PST US From: DJA727@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: OIl pressure at Start --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com In a message dated 11/9/2003 12:35:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, acrojim@cfl.rr.com writes: > I had oil pressure swings at one time, for no apparent reason, while in > flight, and > also on the ground. However the swings were in the normal temperatures here > in Fl. > which is in the mid 90's most of the time. > > I replaced the oil pressure sender, which solved my problem. > That is one possibility - a bad sensor. I will be keeping a close eye on this to see of there is any pattern for the problem. Dave ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:35 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: First flight N6125A From: Tom Paul --> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul Wow, congratulations! Only two years? That's inspiring. Keep us posted about the test flying. On 11/9/03 7:53 PM, "Paul Boulet" wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet > > Congrats Curtis. Many hapy hours flying to you > Paul Boulet > do not archive > > Curtis Jaussi wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Curtis Jaussi > > After two years of building and much enjoyment, N6125A :A216 maid it's maiden > flight on Saturday Nov. 8 2003. What a thrill it is !!! > The only glitch was not enough tension on the shimmy damper that was found > during high speed taxi tests. > I now know what is meant by the Europa Grin.!! > This forum has been invaluable during the build and I thank everyone who > contributes. I have taken lots out and not put much in, and plan on changing > that. What a beautiful kit and aircraft! > > Curtis Jaussi > Vernal, Utah > N6125A A216 > jaussi@direcway.com > > > > > > >