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Sat 11/15/03


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     1. 03:06 AM - Re: modification (Jeremy Davey)
     2. 11:02 AM - Re: modification (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:06:31 AM PST US
    From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
    Subject: modification
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com> John, Good choice!! Various people have modified their Europas like you say, and obviously that is mostly tri-gear owners who don't have the big wheel in there. The tunnel is part of the structural strength, though, so you do need to be careful. Over there in the US you can do pretty well what you like, even if it takes away a lot of strength and eventually kills you, but over here in the UK we have to follow a formal modification approval procedure that makes sure we don't do anything dangerous. You may want to liaise with Ian Rickard g-iani@ntlworld.com on this - he has an engineered and approved mod on his tri-gear that recovers a lot of the tunnel space for radios, storage, etc. He is very busy at present getting G-IANI ready for first flight on 17th December - indeed, I haven't heard from him for about a month - so don't worry if you don't get a response immediately. Also, the factory are producing a mod that increased the elbow room on the door side - only a small amount, but apparently it's significant, if only for the removal of the uncomfortable edge and replacement with a sculpted face. Finally, is 600-800 hours reasonable? If you got the accelerated feathers and cockpit module, didn't do a load of mods, and have some plane-building experience, yes it probably is. I had neither accelerated kit and enjoyed doing them myself, am doing a lot of mods, and the only planes I've ever built were from Airfix. The result is I'm about 50% done at 1100hrs, smiling from ear-to-ear with the sheer pleasure of building, and have no regrets about not speeding my way to first flight. Of course, if you want a noisy tin can that drinks like George Best and looks the same as every other homebuilt in California, build an RV! HTH! Cheers, Jeremy Jeremy Davey Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john butterfield Subject: Europa-List: modification --> Europa-List message posted by: john butterfield <jdbutterfield@yahoo.com> hello all: I have been trying to decide which aircraft to build and i am down to the europa and an RV model. All things point to the europa as my final choice. I am going to get the tri gear model. i am wondering if it is possible to modify the cockpit module so that the area which housed the mono wheel can be changed so that more room will exist between the seats. i read somewhere that it is part of the sturcture and is required for total aircraft strength. if anyone has any info on this matter i would be grateful to hear it. is 600-800 hours really reasonable to build one of these beautiful machines? best regards john Butterfield los angeles


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    Time: 11:02:22 AM PST US
    From: DuaneFamly@aol.com
    Subject: Re: modification
    --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com John, For a bit of reference....I have never built a plane before but do work well with my hands. Unlike some of the builders here I want to fly a lot more than I want to build. But I will not compromise of the safety or integrity of my build, I have too much at stake. I got my kit from a great guy that only had about 40 hours into the tailplanes then developed a medical problem. I have just recently installed the cockpit module after adding the structural supports for the installation of conventional gear. Now after getting towards the end of installing the tailplane torque tube, my build log has 466.5 hours in it. I hope this gives you some realistic ideas on build time. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear




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