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     1. 01:18 AM - Re: radios and intercoms (nigel charles)
     2. 01:31 AM - Re: UK W.D.F.I Sherburn in Elmet.(EGCJ) (Jeremy Davey)
     3. 01:36 AM - Re: XS Fuel System Mods. (Jeremy Davey)
     4. 02:17 AM - europa club christmas dinner (Graham Singleton)
     5. 04:13 AM - Pink Chit (Mike)
     6. 04:13 AM - Re: XS Fuel System Mods. (Mike)
     7. 06:24 AM - UK W.D.F.I.  (R.C.Harrison)
     8. 07:42 AM - Ho HO (Fergus Kyle)
     9. 08:31 AM - Re: Ho HO (STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2)
    10. 08:34 AM - Re: Pink Chit (Rob Housman)
    11. 09:57 AM - Re: Pink Chit (Jeremy Davey)
    12. 10:02 AM - Re: Ho HO (Jeremy Davey)
    13. 11:52 AM - Faulty scales (Jeremy Davey)
    14. 11:54 AM - Re: flying hours (David Watts)
    15. 12:01 PM - Sherburn Fly-in  (bryan allsop)
    16. 12:04 PM - Re: europa club christmas dinner (Paul Boulet)
    17. 01:16 PM - Spraylat ()
    18. 02:40 PM - Really Nice Comments... (Matt Dralle)
    19. 05:45 PM - Re: Pink Chit (Steve Hagar)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: radios and intercoms | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
      
      >Can any one help with a circuit diagram of how to connect a KY96a and
      GCA400 intercom together? The instructions from the 2 companies have
      different names for different connections and my brain has become fuzzed
      looking at the diags.<
      
      Steve
      If you send me a copy of the diagrams I will have a look at them and see if
      it is any clearer to me.
      
      Nigel Charles
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | UK W.D.F.I  Sherburn in Elmet.(EGCJ) | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
      
      Ach! Do not let ze evil Frenchie (well, Ferg is in Canada!) verk out vere ze
      secret meetings are being held! Zis is a matter of state sekurity!
      
      Ferg - I'm sure I've got an old half-mil chart somewhere if you want to send
      me your address, mate!
      
      Cheers,
      Jeremy
      
      Jeremy Davey
      
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      
      Tail done
      Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
      CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      1100 build hours to date
      
      Intended fit:
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK W.D.F.I Sherburn in Elmet.(EGCJ)
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
      Subject: Europa-List: UK W.D.F.I Sherburn in Elmet.(EGCJ)
      
      BUT -
                  you girls are going to have to get your house in order! First
      it's Sherbourne then it's Sherburn then it's int' 'elmet. There are going to
      be Europas all over the place. have a heart for a fellow sitting in the
      woods. fingering a 1994 AA 3mi/inch roadmap and trying to find your
      hidey-holes.
      Ferg
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | XS Fuel System Mods. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
      
      Mike,
      
      I may be wrong, but I understand it is a key requirement of sight gauges
      that a leak in the gauge cannot feed air to the engine - as the pump will
      suck air in preference to fuel.
      
      You need to take the bottom end of the gauge off some sort of sump separate
      from the fuel feed.
      
      I suggest you take a look at Graham Singleton's mod 10823 (for tank fittings
      that take rigid Al lines) to see what he's done there, also the factory fuel
      gauge mod paperwork (on their Web Site) gives an alternative routing that
      you could take ideas from.
      
      I'm running my gauge up the baggage bay, too - I don't want to see it in
      flight - but details aren't finalised yet.
      
      Regards,
      Jeremy
      
      Jeremy Davey
      
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      
      Tail done
      Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
      CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      1100 build hours to date
      
      Intended fit:
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
      Subject: Europa-List: XS Fuel System Mods.
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Andy,
          I seem to recollect you saying some time ago that you were planning to
      introduce a mod to reposition the fuel sight guage and the fuel vents. My
      proposal follows.
          I would like to T the line from the port fuel outlet to the port fuel
      drain where it emerges from the tunnel and feed it across the well of the
      baggage compartment and up the stb wall, venting into the fuel filler neck.
      There would be a further vent line from the filler neck to the lower
      fuselage. The tube is protected throughout its run by enclosing it in square
      section conduit which is bent to follow the fuselage profile and is left
      uncovered where it runs up from the floor to the fuselage joint line (this
      is the guage proper). It will be easy to fit and access for inspection.
          Fuel contents could be checked before and during flight providing a
      backup to the Europa fuel guage mod. already fitted.
          What do you think? Can you see any reason why this change would not be
      acceptable? In particular, can the tank also be vented into the filler neck?
          I would be grateful to have your comments prior to submitting this mod
      to the PFA.
          I am copying to the forum as I'm sure there will be others who will be
      interested.
      Regards
      Mike
      XS #440
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | europa club christmas dinner | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
      
      At 23:56 20/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
      >europa club christmas dinner
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
      >
      >Paul,
      >
      >I'll throw my hat in the ring to assist if you want. It's a short hop over 
      >to your
      >neck of the woods for a lot of people in the west. I know for myself, any
      >and all learning I can get via association with more knowledgeable 
      >builders and
      >flyers is a plus.
      >
      >Dan
      
      Go for it you guys. I went to the canard gathering at Rough River 
      (Kentucky) in September. Wonderful to meet so many of the people who have 
      so much knowledge and experience to share. Even astronaut Jim Voss was 
      there giving rides! The Europa gatherings here are growing the same way. We 
      all learn something. ( I need to learn something every day in case I forget 
      too many things ?;-)
      Graham 
      
      
      ---
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys and/girls (
      As distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: XS Fuel System Mods. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Jeremy,
      My sight guage will be fed from the same line as shown in the manual.
      The factory fuel drain mod has the guage T'd iinto the port drain line which
      gets its supply from a separate pipe within the tank so air cannot be sucked
      in.
      Incidentally, any chance of you letting me have a copy of your mod
      submission for the pip pin covers?
      Regards
      Mike
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
      
      Hi! Guys
      Hope you got back safely ? I only achieved part of my "detail" today, managed to
      collect my Son from Stanstead by car!
      When I got to Wickenby to fly to Sherburn it was really quite impossible.
      I know Mike Parkin and Bryan Alsop went but still need confirmation of any others?
      Bryan and I have "voted" that William Mills is the IC organiser for next week !
      Hope you have better luck than me William! But let me know.
      Best regards
      Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      Once more it's proven that we Canucks and our Aremican friends have no
      corner on the funny market! Pink Chit it is!
      "----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?"
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys and/girls. As
      distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2" <garrys@att.com>
      
      Ok, I'll bite...................what is a "Goolie Chit" ?
      
      Regards,
      
      Garry V. Stout (USA)
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      Once more it's proven that we Canucks and our Aremican friends have no
      corner on the funny market! Pink Chit it is!
      "----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?"
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys
      and/girls. As
      distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
      
      OK, to avoid further inquiries, anyone wanting to know about the "Goolie
      chit" can find out here:
      http://www.victoriansatwar.net/archives/letters_1.html
      
      do not archive
      
      
      Best regards,
      
      Rob Housman
      Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
      Airframe complete
      Irvine, CA
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike
      Subject: Europa-List: Pink Chit
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys and/girls (
      As distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
      
      Refers to the little slip of paper issued to public schoolboys by their
      Housemasters when given leave of absence. A quaint old English tradition!
      
      Jeremy Davey
      
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      
      Tail done
      Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
      CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      1100 build hours to date
      
      Intended fit:
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike
      Subject: Europa-List: Pink Chit
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys and/girls (
      As distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
      
      'Goolies' ... AKA 'bollocks'.
      
      Cf. 'Googly' - a type of delivery in cricket
      Cf. 'Goalie' - a position in football
      Cf. 'Goole' - a place in England where boats keep bouncing off the railway
      swing-bridge
      
      Oooops, sorry - got a bit carried away there...
      
      Jeremy Davey
      
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      
      Tail done
      Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
      CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      1100 build hours to date
      
      Intended fit:
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of STOUT, GARRY V,
      CSFF2
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Ho HO
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "STOUT, GARRY V, CSFF2" <garrys@att.com>
      
      Ok, I'll bite...................what is a "Goolie Chit" ?
      
      Regards,
      
      Garry V. Stout (USA)
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
      
      Once more it's proven that we Canucks and our Aremican friends have no
      corner on the funny market! Pink Chit it is!
      "----- Original Message -----
      From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?"
      
      Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys
      and/girls. As
      distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else entirely.
      Mike
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
      
      You may remember a thread some weeks ago started by Ron Parigoris about
      problems with digital scales that ignored any very small, very slow
      increments in weight? His test involved weighing a piece of Letter paper,
      then tearing it up and reweighing it, putting the pieces on very slowly.
      
      
      After a long search for a piece of Letter-sized paper to undertake the test
      (we use A4 over here) I tried it and, to my surprise, my scales failed!
      
      
      Now this was potentially a serious problem. I measure Ampreg 20 by weighing
      a pre-decided weight of resin, then adding hardener with a syringe, slowing
      to a drop at a time at the end. I'd often found that the last 0.5g or so (my
      scales have 1 decimal place) took a lot more drops of hardener than
      expected. Now I knew why!
      
      
      Fortunately for me I had discovered a few days previously that a friend in
      the village is a representative for a well-known laboratory scales company.
      I'd had problems reading my scales from some angles ever since I tried to
      wipe off some drops of resin/hardener with an acetone-soaked piece of paper
      towel (D'oh!!) and got a semi-opaque screen. He'd offered me a redundant
      sample from his large stock.
      
      
      With my new scales, the sort that have a spirit bubble and are accurate to
      0.001g, I found that a drop of hardener weighs 0.03 to 0.05g. So what was
      the worst-case scenario? My best guess was that in the worst cases I'd added
      10 extra drops, making the mix with 0.5g excess hardener at most. The
      smallest mixes I'd made were 40.0g resin + 10.0g hardener in order to keep
      the proportions within the accuracy (!!) of the scales. So these cases could
      be up to 5% excess hardener.
      
      
      I checked with a number of people for an opinion: my inspector, the Europa
      Factory, Dr. Bill Brooks of Scrapheap Challenge and Pegasus Aviation fame (a
      top bloke!). No-one knew for sure if I'd have a problem - and so far I'd
      done the tail, ailerons, flaps, XS wings and Cockpit module. I didn't want
      to ask SP Systems because I feared the litigation-aware response of 'if the
      ratio is wrong, you must redo everything'.
      
      
      Bill's suggestion was to call SP Systems, and he did have a point, so I rang
      Martin Armstrong in their product support (who I knew was excellent from
      previous experience with another question). To cut a long story short,
      Martin suggested the eminently practical idea of making up a deliberately
      worst-case-scenario batch of epoxy using my old scales and usual technique,
      cure it for three days, then send it to them for testing.
      
      
      The results were most interesting, and I'm in the clear - the sample was
      strong enough (PLEASE DO NOT TREAT THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO BE LESS METICULOUS
      IN YOUR EPOXY RATIOS!!). Strangely enough the sample gave indications of
      being cured at 50C - I hadn't done this (I heat the workshop to a consistent
      22-24C) so I assume the striking postal workers must have left it over their
      brazier for a few days.
      
      
      I wanted to tell this story in order to encourage people to check their
      scales for the issue, and also to publicly thank SP Systems for the high
      quality of their product support. I was a very worried chap for a while.
      Once again I am glad I chose the kit I did, and that the various suppliers
      of parts are fully behind their products.
      
      
      Regards,
      
      Jeremy
      
      
      Jeremy Davey
      
      
      Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
      
      
      Tail done
      
      Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
      
      CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
      
      1100 build hours to date
      
      
      Intended fit:
      
      Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
      
      Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: flying hours | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" <dg.watts@virgin.net>
      
      I love it to bits, every minute of it.
      Dave
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
      <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
      >
      > Dave you sign off
      >
      > "Dave Watts G-BXDY Flying 960 hrs".
      >
      > Getting the hang of it yet?
      >
      > Bryan A
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
      
      Yes Bob! We all made it, apart from you. The bacon sandwich was absolutely
      delicious. The weather however would have been a challenge to an other than
      a proficient mono flyer.
      
      The baton was passed on to a grateful William Mills who had managed to make
      it from the middle of Wales (the one in the UK). This time he will be sure
      which airfield and date it is going to be without us confusing the issue.
      
      He is contemplating a meet sometime in the next fortnight and fairly
      central.
      
      Regards.     Bryan
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
      Subject: Europa-List: UK W.D.F.I.
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison"
      <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
      >
      > Hi! Guys
      > Hope you got back safely ? I only achieved part of my "detail" today,
      managed to collect my Son from Stanstead by car!
      > When I got to Wickenby to fly to Sherburn it was really quite impossible.
      > I know Mike Parkin and Bryan Alsop went but still need confirmation of any
      others?
      > Bryan and I have "voted" that William Mills is the IC organiser for next
      week !
      > Hope you have better luck than me William! But let me know.
      > Best regards
      > Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: europa club christmas dinner | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet <possibletodo@yahoo.com>
      
      OK... Dan give me your telephone number and we'll hook up after first of the year
      to start planning a party for next year.  We'll need a list of all US builders/flyers
      as well... might as well invite the whole dang country... you never
      know when someone's gonna be in Los Angeles for whatever.
      
      I'm going on vacation and won't be back til Dec 10 (lucky me).  See ya
      Paul Boulet, Malibu, California
      N914PB
      A212
      
      Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> wrote:
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton 
      
      At 23:56 20/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
      >europa club christmas dinner
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" 
      >
      >Paul,
      >
      >I'll throw my hat in the ring to assist if you want. It's a short hop over 
      >to your
      >neck of the woods for a lot of people in the west. I know for myself, any
      >and all learning I can get via association with more knowledgeable 
      >builders and
      >flyers is a plus.
      >
      >Dan
      
      Go for it you guys. I went to the canard gathering at Rough River 
      (Kentucky) in September. Wonderful to meet so many of the people who have 
      so much knowledge and experience to share. Even astronaut Jim Voss was 
      there giving rides! The Europa gatherings here are growing the same way. We 
      all learn something. ( I need to learn something every day in case I forget 
      too many things ?;-)
      Graham 
      
      
      ---
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
      
      Hi folks,
      
      I am installing the windows and I noticed on Tony K's log that he
      recommends Spraylat to coat the polycarbonate so it doesn't get
      scratched. Aircraft spruce carries and describes how to spray it on.  I
      simply brushed it on and it goes on very easy and washes off with water.
      One quart will do two Europas.  If it prevents scratches, it is well
      worth it.  I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere and thought you might be
      interested.
      
      Thanks Tony...
      
      Tom Friedland  XS mono Jabiru/Airmaster.  Just the final do dads to do!
      You know, 90% done, what % to go...
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
      
      
      Sounds like a "kitchen pass"  to me.
      
      Steve
      
      > [Original Message]
      > From: Mike <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
       > Date: 11/21/03 3:54:53 AM
      > Subject: Europa-List: Pink Chit
      >
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
      > 
      > Permission from the other half to go out to play with the boys and/girls (
      > As distinct from the 'Goolie chit' which refers to something else
      entirely.
      > Mike
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Tom Paul" <tom@tompaul.com>
      > > For those of us on the other side of the puddle, what's a pink chit?
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
      --- Steve Hagar
      --- hagargs@earthlink.net
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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