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     1. 03:01 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 11/22/03 (Graham Singleton)
     2. 04:47 AM - Re: UK weekday Fly In /Voucher utilisation. (Kingsley Hurst)
     3. 10:59 AM - Baggage bay angle (ScramIt@aol.com)
     4. 01:34 PM - Re: Baggage bay angle (Kevin Klinefelter)
     5. 03:01 PM - Re: Baggage bay angle (ScramIt@aol.com)
     6. 04:32 PM - High temperature adhesive (Paul McAllister)
     7. 04:56 PM - Re: High temperature adhesive (Michael Grass)
     8. 06:37 PM - Plexiglas to the door? (Jeff Roberts)
     9. 08:47 PM - Re: Plexiglas to the door? (Cliff Shaw)
    10. 09:05 PM - Aileron trim wire? (Ronald J. Parigoris)
    11. 11:05 PM - UK Weekday Fly-in (William Mills)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 11/22/03 | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
      
      At 23:56 22/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
      >Spraylat
      >
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      >
      >Hi All,
      >
      >I have just removed the Spraylat from my windows and interestingly enough
      >the most difficult stuff to get off was where I had applied a second coat
      
      There you go! Thanks Paul, experience is what counts. Always get a second 
      opinion on anything I say!
      Graham 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: UK weekday Fly In /Voucher utilisation. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
      
      
      Do not archive
      
      Michael Parking boasts!!
      
      > Kingsley,
      >
      > Excellent Rugby Tournament - Wallabies came 2nd.
      >
      > "Swing Low sweet chariot........"
      >
      > Pass me another tube of amber gold!!!!!
      
      Fair go Mike, Fair go.  What can I say??
      
      I have just come home from being away for the weekend to find a barrage of
      e-mails (direct) from Poms gloating over their long awaited success.  Guess
      we should let ya enjoy this one 'cause ya don't get ta enjoy much when we
      play ya Cricket!
      
      Have an amber gold or two on me fellas but I doubt you'll get drunk before
      we beat yoos again SO.
      
      All in jest.
      
      Kingsley
      No progress since last time - bin lickin wounds!!
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Baggage bay angle | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
      
      What is the normal angle of the deck in the baggage bay? The manual picture 
      shows it angled but approximately how much?   Tried to make it level but the 
      front lips don't over lap when I do. Then I set the angle so when the hatch way
      
      cover is installed the bottom of that is level. Or parallel to the slope of 
      the floor of the canoe? The one thing I kept constant is the gap between the 
      torque tube and the rear edge of the bay. Or does it not matter as long as the
      
      bay does not interfere with the torque tube?
      
      "Trial fit the bulkhead in place and measure the height of the ribs. Cut out 
      the ribs approximately 3 mm (1/8") less in height then the measured figure and
      
      22 cm (8") long." Page 28-14 Issue 2
      
      What the heck? Translated: 
      Arbitrarily measure a distance from zero to infinity whatever you pick is 
      wrong. Subtract 1/8", well approximately 1/8" could be a 1/16" could be a 1/4"
      OK 
      well.... Pick some fraction in relation to nothing and the subtract that. One 
      thing for sure it's 8" long.... I think.... Start cutting.     : )
      
      Thanks, SteveD.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Baggage bay angle | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
      
      Hey Dude,   3/4" space between the deck and the pitch tube. Make a spacer
      3/4", tape it to the tube and then follow the directions. I think they
      forgot that part.
      
      Kevin
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ScramIt@aol.com
      Subject: Europa-List: Baggage bay angle
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
      
      What is the normal angle of the deck in the baggage bay? The manual picture
      shows it angled but approximately how much?   Tried to make it level but the
      front lips don't over lap when I do. Then I set the angle so when the hatch
      way
      cover is installed the bottom of that is level. Or parallel to the slope of
      the floor of the canoe? The one thing I kept constant is the gap between the
      torque tube and the rear edge of the bay. Or does it not matter as long as
      the
      bay does not interfere with the torque tube?
      
      "Trial fit the bulkhead in place and measure the height of the ribs. Cut out
      the ribs approximately 3 mm (1/8") less in height then the measured figure
      and
      22 cm (8") long." Page 28-14 Issue 2
      
      What the heck? Translated:
      Arbitrarily measure a distance from zero to infinity whatever you pick is
      wrong. Subtract 1/8", well approximately 1/8" could be a 1/16" could be a
      1/4" OK
      well.... Pick some fraction in relation to nothing and the subtract that.
      One
      thing for sure it's 8" long.... I think.... Start cutting.     : )
      
      Thanks, SteveD.
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Baggage bay angle | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
      
      Thanks! 
      That's what I did, got the spacers cut already. For some unknown reason I got 
      it into my head to level it. Soon as I got over that everything worked out 
      OK.
      
      Decided to get away from the glue for a while, and started my metal firewall. 
      I saw on some sites that this can be a tough job. 5 1/2 hours later it's 
      painted and installed. It went so fast I didn't even get any pictures of the build
      
      for my web site. 
      
      Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you....
      
      Chat later!
      
      SteveD
      A217
      http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/Europa.html
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | High temperature adhesive | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      
      Hi all,
      
      I want to stick heat reflective foil onto my firewall.  Someone suggested that
      AC Spruce had a high temperature adhesive that would be suitable for this purpose.
      I haven't been able to find it in their catalogue.  Does anyone happen 
      to know the cat number, or have a recommendation as to what to use.
      
      
      Thanks,  Paul
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: High temperature adhesive | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
      
      Hi Paul,
      
      I am not sure if that will work, but on page 123 on the newest cat P/N
      05-00800 there is a high temp glue for fiberfrax insulation material. I do
      not have personal experience but I had not long ago a piece of Fiberfrax in
      my hands. Fiberfrax is a cloth, almost asbestos like, material.
      You may ask ACS if that glue could work for the foil as well.
      
      Michael Grass
      A266 Stage 1 almost finished.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      Subject: Europa-List: High temperature adhesive
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
      <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
      >
      > Hi all,
      >
      > I want to stick heat reflective foil onto my firewall.  Someone suggested
      that AC Spruce had a high temperature adhesive that would be suitable for
      this purpose.  I haven't been able to find it in their catalogue.  Does
      anyone happen  to know the cat number, or have a recommendation as to what
      to use.
      >
      >
      > Thanks,  Paul
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Plexiglas to the door? | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
      
      What a weekend, connected all brake lines and the Matco brake. Plus bonded
      the port & starboard Plexiglas into the doors. Would like to know what
      others have done to smooth the transition of door to glass. The glass seams
      just slightly proud of the door. Should I just fill & sand up to the edge of
      the Plexiglas, or has someone got a better idea? Can the very edge of the
      glass be sanded down to match?
      
      Thanks in advance,
      
      Jeff
      A258 Tri
      Airframe really looks like a plane now!
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Plexiglas to the door? | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
      
      Jeff
      
      What I did was to grind off a small amount of the plex around the edge. Just
      a little to ; 1) make a tooth for the filler 2) reduce the amount of height
      the filler had to fair.  Then fill as normal with the stuff that came in the
      kit.
      
      Cliff Shaw
      1041 Euclid ave.
      Edmonds WA 98020
      (425) 776-5555
      N229WC  "Wile E Coyote"
      New Email:"  flyinggpa@comcast.net "
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
      Subject: Europa-List: Plexiglas to the door?
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
      >
      > What a weekend, connected all brake lines and the Matco brake. Plus bonded
      > the port & starboard Plexiglas into the doors. Would like to know what
      > others have done to smooth the transition of door to glass. The glass
      seams
      > just slightly proud of the door. Should I just fill & sand up to the edge
      of
      > the Plexiglas, or has someone got a better idea? Can the very edge of the
      > glass be sanded down to match?
      >
      > Thanks in advance,
      >
      > Jeff
      > A258 Tri
      > Airframe really looks like a plane now!
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Aileron trim wire? | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      
      Managed to get Ray Allen T4-5 servo mounted to port aileron.
      
      Mounted the base of the servo flush with the top of the aileron. No cover
      needed. Inserted some G-10 between the outer skin and foam and floxed in
      place, and riveted on some 6-32 anchor nuts.
      
      Would appreciate some thoughts on powering servo.
      
      What type of wire and or protector and routing has been used successful to run
      from wing to aileron?
      
      Thx.
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | UK Weekday Fly-in | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
      
      Hello All,
      This week I have selected SLEAP for the fly-in.  There are free landing and lunch
      vouchers in Today's Pilot and it has a fairly central location for England
      and Wales, although a long trek from the SE.  Three Europas use Sleap for their
      base.  It is located within the Shawbury MATZ, LARS 120.77.  There is a pleasant
      club room and I will try to ensure food is available on the chosen day.
      The weather this week is very changeable (as they say) with a variety of fronts
      crossing the UK, so getting the right slot is going to be difficult.  At my last
      check Thursday was looking promising, but any of you with a good source of
      forecasting, please let me have your deliberations.
      For club catering purposes, please let me know if you are going to try to make
      it.
      Regards,
      William
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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