---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 11/23/03: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:01 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 11/22/03 (Graham Singleton) 2. 04:47 AM - Re: UK weekday Fly In /Voucher utilisation. (Kingsley Hurst) 3. 10:59 AM - Baggage bay angle (ScramIt@aol.com) 4. 01:34 PM - Re: Baggage bay angle (Kevin Klinefelter) 5. 03:01 PM - Re: Baggage bay angle (ScramIt@aol.com) 6. 04:32 PM - High temperature adhesive (Paul McAllister) 7. 04:56 PM - Re: High temperature adhesive (Michael Grass) 8. 06:37 PM - Plexiglas to the door? (Jeff Roberts) 9. 08:47 PM - Re: Plexiglas to the door? (Cliff Shaw) 10. 09:05 PM - Aileron trim wire? (Ronald J. Parigoris) 11. 11:05 PM - UK Weekday Fly-in (William Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:41 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 11/22/03 --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 22/11/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Spraylat > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > >Hi All, > >I have just removed the Spraylat from my windows and interestingly enough >the most difficult stuff to get off was where I had applied a second coat There you go! Thanks Paul, experience is what counts. Always get a second opinion on anything I say! Graham --- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:32 AM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK weekday Fly In /Voucher utilisation. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Do not archive Michael Parking boasts!! > Kingsley, > > Excellent Rugby Tournament - Wallabies came 2nd. > > "Swing Low sweet chariot........" > > Pass me another tube of amber gold!!!!! Fair go Mike, Fair go. What can I say?? I have just come home from being away for the weekend to find a barrage of e-mails (direct) from Poms gloating over their long awaited success. Guess we should let ya enjoy this one 'cause ya don't get ta enjoy much when we play ya Cricket! Have an amber gold or two on me fellas but I doubt you'll get drunk before we beat yoos again SO. All in jest. Kingsley No progress since last time - bin lickin wounds!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:23 AM PST US From: ScramIt@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Baggage bay angle --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com What is the normal angle of the deck in the baggage bay? The manual picture shows it angled but approximately how much? Tried to make it level but the front lips don't over lap when I do. Then I set the angle so when the hatch way cover is installed the bottom of that is level. Or parallel to the slope of the floor of the canoe? The one thing I kept constant is the gap between the torque tube and the rear edge of the bay. Or does it not matter as long as the bay does not interfere with the torque tube? "Trial fit the bulkhead in place and measure the height of the ribs. Cut out the ribs approximately 3 mm (1/8") less in height then the measured figure and 22 cm (8") long." Page 28-14 Issue 2 What the heck? Translated: Arbitrarily measure a distance from zero to infinity whatever you pick is wrong. Subtract 1/8", well approximately 1/8" could be a 1/16" could be a 1/4" OK well.... Pick some fraction in relation to nothing and the subtract that. One thing for sure it's 8" long.... I think.... Start cutting. : ) Thanks, SteveD. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:57 PM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Baggage bay angle --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" Hey Dude, 3/4" space between the deck and the pitch tube. Make a spacer 3/4", tape it to the tube and then follow the directions. I think they forgot that part. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ScramIt@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Baggage bay angle --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com What is the normal angle of the deck in the baggage bay? The manual picture shows it angled but approximately how much? Tried to make it level but the front lips don't over lap when I do. Then I set the angle so when the hatch way cover is installed the bottom of that is level. Or parallel to the slope of the floor of the canoe? The one thing I kept constant is the gap between the torque tube and the rear edge of the bay. Or does it not matter as long as the bay does not interfere with the torque tube? "Trial fit the bulkhead in place and measure the height of the ribs. Cut out the ribs approximately 3 mm (1/8") less in height then the measured figure and 22 cm (8") long." Page 28-14 Issue 2 What the heck? Translated: Arbitrarily measure a distance from zero to infinity whatever you pick is wrong. Subtract 1/8", well approximately 1/8" could be a 1/16" could be a 1/4" OK well.... Pick some fraction in relation to nothing and the subtract that. One thing for sure it's 8" long.... I think.... Start cutting. : ) Thanks, SteveD. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:02 PM PST US From: ScramIt@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Baggage bay angle --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com Thanks! That's what I did, got the spacers cut already. For some unknown reason I got it into my head to level it. Soon as I got over that everything worked out OK. Decided to get away from the glue for a while, and started my metal firewall. I saw on some sites that this can be a tough job. 5 1/2 hours later it's painted and installed. It went so fast I didn't even get any pictures of the build for my web site. Sometimes you get the bear and sometimes the bear gets you.... Chat later! SteveD A217 http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/Europa.html ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:58 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: High temperature adhesive --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Hi all, I want to stick heat reflective foil onto my firewall. Someone suggested that AC Spruce had a high temperature adhesive that would be suitable for this purpose. I haven't been able to find it in their catalogue. Does anyone happen to know the cat number, or have a recommendation as to what to use. Thanks, Paul ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:31 PM PST US From: "Michael Grass" Subject: Re: Europa-List: High temperature adhesive --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" Hi Paul, I am not sure if that will work, but on page 123 on the newest cat P/N 05-00800 there is a high temp glue for fiberfrax insulation material. I do not have personal experience but I had not long ago a piece of Fiberfrax in my hands. Fiberfrax is a cloth, almost asbestos like, material. You may ask ACS if that glue could work for the foil as well. Michael Grass A266 Stage 1 almost finished. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: High temperature adhesive > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > Hi all, > > I want to stick heat reflective foil onto my firewall. Someone suggested that AC Spruce had a high temperature adhesive that would be suitable for this purpose. I haven't been able to find it in their catalogue. Does anyone happen to know the cat number, or have a recommendation as to what to use. > > > Thanks, Paul > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:48 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Plexiglas to the door? From: Jeff Roberts --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts What a weekend, connected all brake lines and the Matco brake. Plus bonded the port & starboard Plexiglas into the doors. Would like to know what others have done to smooth the transition of door to glass. The glass seams just slightly proud of the door. Should I just fill & sand up to the edge of the Plexiglas, or has someone got a better idea? Can the very edge of the glass be sanded down to match? Thanks in advance, Jeff A258 Tri Airframe really looks like a plane now! ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:47:09 PM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Plexiglas to the door? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Jeff What I did was to grind off a small amount of the plex around the edge. Just a little to ; 1) make a tooth for the filler 2) reduce the amount of height the filler had to fair. Then fill as normal with the stuff that came in the kit. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds WA 98020 (425) 776-5555 N229WC "Wile E Coyote" New Email:" flyinggpa@comcast.net " ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Roberts" Subject: Europa-List: Plexiglas to the door? > --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts > > What a weekend, connected all brake lines and the Matco brake. Plus bonded > the port & starboard Plexiglas into the doors. Would like to know what > others have done to smooth the transition of door to glass. The glass seams > just slightly proud of the door. Should I just fill & sand up to the edge of > the Plexiglas, or has someone got a better idea? Can the very edge of the > glass be sanded down to match? > > Thanks in advance, > > Jeff > A258 Tri > Airframe really looks like a plane now! > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:56 PM PST US From: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Subject: Europa-List: Aileron trim wire? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Managed to get Ray Allen T4-5 servo mounted to port aileron. Mounted the base of the servo flush with the top of the aileron. No cover needed. Inserted some G-10 between the outer skin and foam and floxed in place, and riveted on some 6-32 anchor nuts. Would appreciate some thoughts on powering servo. What type of wire and or protector and routing has been used successful to run from wing to aileron? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:05:36 PM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Europa-List: UK Weekday Fly-in --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Hello All, This week I have selected SLEAP for the fly-in. There are free landing and lunch vouchers in Today's Pilot and it has a fairly central location for England and Wales, although a long trek from the SE. Three Europas use Sleap for their base. It is located within the Shawbury MATZ, LARS 120.77. There is a pleasant club room and I will try to ensure food is available on the chosen day. The weather this week is very changeable (as they say) with a variety of fronts crossing the UK, so getting the right slot is going to be difficult. At my last check Thursday was looking promising, but any of you with a good source of forecasting, please let me have your deliberations. For club catering purposes, please let me know if you are going to try to make it. Regards, William