Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:54 AM - Re: UK Weekday Fly-in (Pete Lawless)
2. 02:09 AM - Faulty Oil Temp sensor (Carl & Dot)
3. 02:45 AM - OV Crowbar-EXP Bus (Gerry Holland)
4. 04:40 AM - Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor (Roger Anderson)
5. 05:54 AM - Re: No Smoke! (Rob Huntington)
6. 06:17 AM - No Smoke vol 2 (Steve Hagar)
7. 06:39 AM - Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor (Carl & Dot)
8. 06:41 AM - Re: No Smoke! (n3eu@comcast.net)
9. 07:42 AM - Syringes (Paul Bunting)
10. 07:57 AM - "Backlash" / aileron-hinge (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
11. 08:22 AM - Re: RV vs. Europa (Phil Tait)
12. 08:31 AM - Re: "Backlash" / aileron-hinge (R.C.Harrison)
13. 08:33 AM - Re: Syringes (R.C.Harrison)
14. 09:00 AM - Re: RV vs. Europa (Dj Merrill)
15. 09:53 AM - Re: Syringes (Jeremy Davey)
16. 10:29 AM - Re: XS Fuel System Mods. (Mike)
17. 11:01 AM - What Listers Are Saying III (Matt Dralle)
18. 11:10 AM - Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor (Ami McFadyean)
19. 11:23 AM - What Listers Are Saying III (Matt Dralle)
20. 11:56 AM - Re: UK Weekday Fly-in (bryan allsop)
21. 02:39 PM - Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor (Roger Anderson)
22. 03:43 PM - Re: Syringes (Rowland Carson)
23. 03:43 PM - Re: Info or manual? (Rowland Carson)
24. 04:06 PM - Re: Info or manual? (Cliff Shaw)
25. 05:17 PM - Re: "Backlash" / aileron-hinge (Alex Kaarsberg)
26. 07:33 PM - Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor (n3eu@comcast.net)
27. 08:34 PM - 25% COST SAVINGS - MIL-T-4345B Electronic Lacing Cord (Garey Wittich)
28. 11:27 PM - Tailwheel fork Corrosion (Tony Renshaw)
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| Subject: | UK Weekday Fly-in |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Thanks for organising things William - it was a lovely day for flying.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of William
Mills
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Weekday Fly-in
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hello All,
We had very good weather for yesterday's fly-in to Sleap and we were made
most welcome by the Club. The bacon butties were very tasty also. The
following members attended:-
Paddy Clarke, Dari Sagar, Jim Naylor, Tony Burbridge, Bob Harrison, Paul
Sweeting, Pete Lawless, Dave and Marion Watts all flew in and locals Mark
Burton and Brian Fogg drove in to join the fun. Apologies received from
Bryan Allsop, who was committed to spending the day searching for his balls!
Many thanks to Bryan for instigating the Fly-ins. As you all can see they
are becoming very popular.
Tony Burbridge has taken over the batten and will arrange next weeks venue.
Best wishes,
William
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| Subject: | Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
We had a problem earlier this week and wondered if anyone else has had the
same.
Started A/C and warmed up prior to taxi. After about 10 mins temp was
indicating 160C (30 degrees above redline). Water temps (ie: cylinder head
thermocouple) appeared to be ok so we taxied back to the stand and took
cowlings off - nothing appeared to be over hot. When engine cooled down
temps were still abnormal.
I have a spare temp sensor but before changing it wondered if these wear out
frequently or if I should be looking elsewhere. The sensor is connected to a
Grand Rapids EIS. Engine is a Rotax 912 with about 550 hours (dont know if
the sensor has been changed previously).
I seem to recall that the oil pressure senders are prone to failure which is
possibly caused by engine vibration.
It will be fairly easy to test the sender once it has been removed as it
seems to be a variable resistor of about 1k ohm at 20C falling rapidly to
about 100 ohms when heated to 100C. At least those are the readings on the
spare.
The point I am interested in is whether these sensors are prone to failure
(I have only owned the engine for the last 50 hrs).
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: OV protection
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>
> At 23:56 26/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> >: OV protection
> >
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart"
<paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
> > Before I revert to plan A - switches wires and CB's
> >has anyone using the EXPbus any advice to offer
> >Paul Stewart #432
>
> I prefer fuses to CBs. More reliable according to Nuckolls and much less
> expensive. You must wire the alternator as Rotax (or Nuckolls) state. If
> the EXPbus can't cope with that it will need modification IMHO
> Graham
> not a wiring expurt.
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | OV Crowbar-EXP Bus |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Fred, Rob, Jeff
Regarding the following recent comments about EXPBus and at the risk of
being flamed lets state the facts and if there are indeed names and facts.
Name them!
"I have heard bad things about the EXP bus from a lot of highly experienced
people I don't want to name on this forum. However I have heard very good
things from the same people about the power panel right above it in ACS
catalog. Part # 11-675 or 11680"
What is a bad thing?
"Before spending big bucks for the ExpBus check out
http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/expbusad.html"
Big bucks - The prices are as follows:
EXPBus Unit without Switches - $299.00
EXPBus with complete Unit - Switches, Mountings, Board - $424.00
EXPBus with Complete Unit and Lighted Switches - $524.00
Plug -in Indicator Panel showing System Status - $129.00
The ACS Units are:
Homebuilders Power Panel- P/N 11-11675 - $550.000
Mini Power Panel - P/N 11-11680 - $395.000
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/powerpanels.php
These are good value too with most items for power Distribution' included as
in EXPBus.
ACS also sell EXPBus
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/expbus.php
The fact is we all have choice. The positive reasoning I used for using EXP
Bus was the concept of a centralised Electrical Distribution Module allowing
easy and less thought provoking design to the various devices needing
connection in an aircraft own built and maintained. The Crowbar Unit can be
fitted and true, the standard EXPBus Drawing doesn't cater for Permanent
Magnet Alternator. There is a Rotax Diagram for download if required which
does help. The Crowbar is an add on again of personal choice and needs to be
integrated into Circuit. Bob Nuckolls has provided enough insight and
information for it to be included albeit with some input and thoughts from
us.
http://www.expbus.com/pages/avionics_support.htm
Look for Rotax 912/914 in list.
BTW. Control Vision Main page - http://www.controlvision.com
I have used Bob Nuckolls publications throughout the wiring and also have
seen his opinion on EXPBus. He has some niggles and certainly thinks they
have marketing hype but in the main the product passes muster albeit not his
personal choice.
I have dealt with Control Vision (manufacturers) and have had good service.
In summary any decision we make on Modules or parts we use is 'subjective',
our choice and wherever possible is informed. Paul Stewart's original
question asked about EXPBus in that vain. Some responses have not met that
criteria IMHO.
My slightly agitated response is that the thread of this subject gave a
feeling of poor judgement on my part and others for choosing EXPBus. I'll
have to stand by that choice over the next few years as I start to fly next
year. But it was my choice and one I had made in an informed way based on
facts.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
Europa 384 G-FIZY
Trigear with 912 and Arplast CS Prop.
Fuselage being Painted, Wings ready to paint, Flying surfaces painted
Airframe Wiring complete, Panel 75% done . Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150,
Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted.
Activity on Panel completion, Design and build Heater Unit.
+44 7808 402404
gnholland@onetel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
> The point I am interested in is whether these sensors are prone to failure
> (I have only owned the engine for the last 50 hrs).
>
> Carl Pattinson
> G-LABS.
Yes they are. The resistance wire becomes detached at the mounting post.
After the second one failed I followed the example of Duncan McFadean and
got approval to mount the sensor on the top of the air intake. No repeat
problem as yet.
Roger Anderson G-BXTD
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Rob Huntington <robertodue2002@yahoo.com>
Congratulations Steve, I know it was a big event for you. I agree with Fred about
the flag--check it again with a fresh battery and the alternator putting out
current, and I'll bet you won't have any problems.
Regards,
Rob Huntington
Phoenix Composites
4863 E. Falcon Dr.
Mesa, AZ 85215
ph (480) 924-9750
email robertodue2002@yahoo.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
An item I failed to question the first time around concerns the actuator
for the wastegate. Upon powering it up the lights blink on monmentarily and
the unit cycles through its range as advertized. Then there is a low growl
or slight hum in the actuator as if there is a constant holding torque
current in the unit. Have others seen this? My next step is to check the
cable, pehaps it isn't adjusted properly, being too tight.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa, AZ
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
Are we talking about the same sensor. The one I am referring to is a small
bolt shaped plug which screws into the oil pump housing. There is a copper
terminal post on the top which is connected to the electrics via a spade
connector (female) - the body itself grounds to earth.. It connects to the
spade connector in a strange way which I have never really trusted (but on
this occassion is not the cause of the problem).
The only reason I ask is because I think it would be difficult to move the
sender elsewhere, unless it could be tapped into the oil tank or oil cooler
somewhere. I cant visualise what you have done with your sensor.
Have you a photo of what you have done.
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Anderson" <Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Faulty Oil Temp sensor
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson"
<Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
> > The point I am interested in is whether these sensors are prone to
failure
> > (I have only owned the engine for the last 50 hrs).
> >
> > Carl Pattinson
> > G-LABS.
>
> Yes they are. The resistance wire becomes detached at the mounting post.
> After the second one failed I followed the example of Duncan McFadean and
> got approval to mount the sensor on the top of the air intake. No repeat
> problem as yet.
> Roger Anderson G-BXTD
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
Steve Hagar wrote:
> When the
> essential bus is run through its normal feed, which is through the primary
> bus through a big diode an anomaly is seen.
Just now thought you might substitute one side of a DPDT switch for the voltage-droppin'
diode, who can go Tango Uniform before a rarely-flipped, quality switch
ever will. Other side of DPDT is as assumed now wired. Energizing the essential
bus to be direct from the battery disconnects it from the primary bus.
Champagne with yesterday's holiday festivities wasn't conducive to later thinking
tech solution....
Best,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting" <paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
Hi,
Probably a silly question ... I have just purchased my electric scales
for measuring out my resin, and I am looking for syringes, can anyone in
the UK recommend a supplier or can point me in the direction of a store
where they might be sold? Also what sort of size is best?
Regards,
Paul
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| Subject: | "Backlash" / aileron-hinge |
--> Europa-List message posted by:
Hi
During annual check I note that there are backlash ( - not sure if it's
the right word, but think you know what I mean) in my aileron hinges.
Definition: after fixing the push/pull rods the TE of the ailerons can
be moved about 2 millimeters.
Backlash in rod-ends and bellcrank are nil.
Q: have others experienced simular wear?
Regards
Gert
Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
Europa builder No. 151
Europa Classic / Rotax 914
250 hours
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs. Europa |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Phil Tait" <phil@archwise.co.uk>
Guil
I am a Europa builder of just over a year and about ready for sanding and
painting. The composite work is relatively easy once you have had some
direction from the factory.
I did originally look at the RV's but I decided based upon what I wanted to
achieve at the end of the build, which was to have a 2 seat relatively fast
very economical state of the art cheap to keep in the air plane that I could
complex hour build on and at the same time have a lot of fun.
I think that some people sometimes forget what PFA or experimental flying is
all about.
My advice to you would be to ask yourself what type of flying do you want to
do in your plane? If you want to be able to potter around at 90-100kts or
fast cruse at 130kts then the europa is a good choose.
If you want to blast around at 160kts then forget about the RV and buy a
Lancair.
Composite construction gives clean modern lines is easy to repair and no
more difficult to use that riveting.
Hope this helps you with your choice.
Regards
Phil Tait
Tri-gear builder UK#551
----- Original Message -----
From: "Guil Barros" <flight@metathusalan.com>
Subject: Europa-List: RV vs. Europa
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Guil Barros <flight@metathusalan.com>
>
> Let me start off by saying that im not trying to start a flame war :)
>
> Im genuinly interested in hearing peoples thoughts on the subject, up
untill i
> found out about europa kits a few days ago i was set on getting an RV-7A.
Im
> not so sure anymore.
>
> Can someone tell me a little about whats involved in building an Europa? i
can
> understand rivetting aluminum, but have never had any experience with
composite
> materials. Will i have to shape foam to make parts? wings, etc?
>
> Also, it seems that there are thousands of people with RV's, and i hadnt
heard
> of the europa till just a few days ago. Whats the community like? Is there
> anyone in arkansas who might want to give me a demo ride in one?
>
> Im really interested in the europa, i love the idea of using a smaller,
more
> modern engine (lycomings make me cringe), the fantastic fuel consumption,
the
> aestetics, etc... i guess im really comfortable with the idea of aluminum
still
> though.
>
> One other thing: i noticed that the prop-ground clearance on the monowheel
is
> rather small, what are peoples thoughts on this? are there many
prop-strikes?
>
> Right now im thinking i like the monowheel XL the most, but i need to see
how
> comfortable i would be with the taildragging, clearance :)
>
> thanks for any input you feel like giving :)
>
> -guil
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| Subject: | Re: "Backlash" / aileron-hinge |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Gert.
I suggest you investigate a slight gap in the mating of the two control
tranfer surfaces where they meet up on assembling the wings to the fuselage.
I have a similar problem and when I remember I stick a layer of adhesive
tape on to one of the surfaces.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: "Backlash" / aileron-hinge
> --> Europa-List message posted by:
>
> Hi
> During annual check I note that there are backlash ( - not sure if it's
> the right word, but think you know what I mean) in my aileron hinges.
> Definition: after fixing the push/pull rods the TE of the ailerons can
> be moved about 2 millimeters.
> Backlash in rod-ends and bellcrank are nil.
> Q: have others experienced simular wear?
> Regards
> Gert
>
>
> Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
>
> Europa builder No. 151
> Europa Classic / Rotax 914
> 250 hours
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Paul
I can't remember sizes but speak to the local vet he will have a range. The
very small needle like ones are not much good.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Bunting" <paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Syringes
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting"
<paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
>
> Hi,
>
> Probably a silly question ... I have just purchased my electric scales
> for measuring out my resin, and I am looking for syringes, can anyone in
> the UK recommend a supplier or can point me in the direction of a store
> where they might be sold? Also what sort of size is best?
>
> Regards,
>
> Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV vs. Europa |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Phil Tait" <phil@archwise.co.uk>
>
> If you want to blast around at 160kts then forget about the RV and buy a
> Lancair.
Or a Glasair...
-Dj
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Paul,
Call Vetretex on 01275 373377 - ask for Esther's replacement. Brilliant for
syringes, paper overalls, mixing cups of all sizes, 25l drums of acetone,
brushes or all widths, ...
And they deliver :-)
Cheers,
Jeremy
Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Tail done
Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding off
while I do a load of small jobs first
1100 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Bunting
Subject: Europa-List: Syringes
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting"
<paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
Hi,
Probably a silly question ... I have just purchased my electric scales
for measuring out my resin, and I am looking for syringes, can anyone in
the UK recommend a supplier or can point me in the direction of a store
where they might be sold? Also what sort of size is best?
Regards,
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: XS Fuel System Mods. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" <mp.gamble@virgin.net>
Received with thanks Jeremy
Mike
>
> Your mod paperwork should be with you by now - let me know if any
questions!
>
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| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
Wow, Wednesday was a great day with lots of Listers getting online and
making their contributions!! Thanks to a number of you that jumped up to
carry the flag and rally support for the cause! Your efforts are much
appreciated and best of all - very effective!
Normally I post two "What Lister's Are Saying" messages during the Fund
Raiser, but this year, so many people have been expressing their pleasure
and satisfaction with the Lists that I have more than enough to post a
third WLAS!
Guys, I really appreciate your nice comments. It warms my heart to hear
how much the Lists mean to you and how much you enjoy them. Your feedback
and support make it all worth it!
Please read some of the awesome comments List members just like you have
made along with their List Contributions this year. There's just a couple
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| Subject: | Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
The Rotax installation manual provides the temperature/resistance response
curve for the VDO temp sensors. So they're easy to check.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Faulty Oil Temp sensor
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Carl & Dot" <carl_p@ntlworld.com>
>
> We had a problem earlier this week and wondered if anyone else has had the
> same.
>
> Started A/C and warmed up prior to taxi. After about 10 mins temp was
> indicating 160C (30 degrees above redline). Water temps (ie: cylinder head
> thermocouple) appeared to be ok so we taxied back to the stand and took
> cowlings off - nothing appeared to be over hot. When engine cooled down
> temps were still abnormal.
>
> I have a spare temp sensor but before changing it wondered if these wear
out
> frequently or if I should be looking elsewhere. The sensor is connected to
a
> Grand Rapids EIS. Engine is a Rotax 912 with about 550 hours (dont know if
> the sensor has been changed previously).
>
> I seem to recall that the oil pressure senders are prone to failure which
is
> possibly caused by engine vibration.
>
> It will be fairly easy to test the sender once it has been removed as it
> seems to be a variable resistor of about 1k ohm at 20C falling rapidly to
> about 100 ohms when heated to 100C. At least those are the readings on the
> spare.
>
> The point I am interested in is whether these sensors are prone to failure
> (I have only owned the engine for the last 50 hrs).
>
> Carl Pattinson
> G-LABS.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: OV protection
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
> <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
> >
> > At 23:56 26/11/2003 -0800, you wrote:
> > >: OV protection
> > >
> > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "paul stewart"
> <paul-d.stewart@virgin.net>
> > > Before I revert to plan A - switches wires and CB's
> > >has anyone using the EXPbus any advice to offer
> > >Paul Stewart #432
> >
> > I prefer fuses to CBs. More reliable according to Nuckolls and much less
> > expensive. You must wire the alternator as Rotax (or Nuckolls) state. If
> > the EXPbus can't cope with that it will need modification IMHO
> > Graham
> > not a wiring expurt.
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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| Subject: | Re: UK Weekday Fly-in |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Congratulations William! You obviously selected a good venue, and you called
a great day for the weather.
You don't need to thank me for instigating the weekday fly-ins, the fact
that people are obviously enjoying participating in them is really
satisfying in itself. Indeed I must confess to looking skyward on many
occasions on Thursday, joining you in spirit and cursing the conflict of
interest.
I shall do my very best to join in Tony Burbridge's fly-in. You have set a
new standard for him to match.
Cheers! Bryan----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Weekday Fly-in
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
>
> Hello All,
> We had very good weather for yesterday's fly-in to Sleap and we were made
> most welcome by the Club. The bacon butties were very tasty also. The
> following members attended:-
> Paddy Clarke, Dari Sagar, Jim Naylor, Tony Burbridge, Bob Harrison, Paul
> Sweeting, Pete Lawless, Dave and Marion Watts all flew in and locals Mark
> Burton and Brian Fogg drove in to join the fun. Apologies received from
> Bryan Allsop, who was committed to spending the day searching for his
balls!
> Many thanks to Bryan for instigating the Fly-ins. As you all can see they
> are becoming very popular.
> Tony Burbridge has taken over the batten and will arrange next weeks
venue.
> Best wishes,
> William
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Anderson" <Randerson@skewstacks.freeserve.co.uk>
> Are we talking about the same sensor. The one I am referring to is a small
> bolt shaped plug which screws into the oil pump housing. There is a copper
> terminal post on the top which is connected to the electrics via a spade
> connector (female) - the body itself grounds to earth.. It connects to the
> spade connector in a strange way which I have never really trusted (but on
> this occassion is not the cause of the problem).
> The only reason I ask is because I think it would be difficult to move the
> sender elsewhere, unless it could be tapped into the oil tank or oil
cooler
> somewhere. I cant visualise what you have done with your sensor.
> Have you a photo of what you have done.
Carl,
Yes we are talking about the same thing.
The sensor is unscrewed from the engine block and is mounted on the air
intake just below the engine using a P clip. It is then re-connected
hydraulically with the engine using a flexible coupling. I used a 0.305
metre length of Speedflex (SS braided Teflon hose) with 1/8" NPT terminals -
supplied by Earl's Performance Products UK Ltd. of Silverstone (Tel.
01327858221) for 17.80p complete (Delivery Note 03097974 dated 14/10/02). I
restrained the unit in the P clip with locking wire and connected a separate
earth lead.
The Mod. Number is 10708, approval dated 29/11/02.
I have only flown 73 hours since then so the remedy is not yet
conclusive, but having taken a failed unit apart and having examined the
failure I am confident that isolating the unit from the engine vibration
will certainly reduce the risk of failure - the cost and inconvenience of
which is tiresome.
The next time I have the cowlings off I will take a photograph and send
you an e-mail direct.
Roger. G-BXTD.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 11 28 at 15:42 +0000, Paul Bunting wrote:
>I am looking for syringes, can anyone in
>the UK recommend a supplier
MarineWare in Southampton are distributors for SP Systems, and I've
found them very helpful. They do 10cc & 50cc syringes, also mixing
cups (cheaper than from Europa), rollers, brushes and most important,
peel-ply (with red tell-tales) in a wide range of widths.
Phone them on 02380 330208 for a mail-order catalogue & price list.
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson PFA #16532 e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
| 660 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI
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| Subject: | Re: Info or manual? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 11 27 at 14:22 -0800, Cliff Shaw wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
>
>>
>> See the Club website for some info via links to builders' own
>> websites. The Europa Club CD-ROM includes a listing of all known mods
>> by name, cross-referenced to kit number.
>
>"Those known to the UK builders." There are lots of thing we "Yanks" have
>done to our Europa. I have counted 51 separate mods to my plane and I have
>a couple under development yet to go. Look at www.europa-uas.com and see
>under owners.
Cliff - apologies for my careless terminology, in haste to respond. I
meant of course all mods which have been brought to my attention as
Europa Club Membership Secretary. That does include quite a number of
the US builders as well as those from the Antipodes and other corners
of the circular globe. The Club tries to facilitate sharing of
information and experience among Europa people worldwide. When I get
time, I'll certainly check your website (does it show your latest
flight hours? - I have none recorded for your bird) and include your
mods in the Club database. By the way, should that URL possibly be
<http://www.europa-usa.com>?
regards
Rowland
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| Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: Info or manual? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Roland
It is fun to catch you once in a while. From over on this side of the pond,
it seems that the view of the world revolves around the Greenwich Meridian.
My Europa has flown 22 hours to date. At the present I have the plane torn
down and in the shop again. I had a bad landing and broke my Airmaster
prop. So I have decided to convert to Try Gear. (like others before me) I
should have thought my choice through in light of my limited flight
experience.
My web page is a bit sparse. Mostly just a hint of what I have done.
Thank you for keeping the Europa records and the web page organized, every
one benefits from you efforts,
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
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| Subject: | Re: "Backlash" / aileron-hinge |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Alex Kaarsberg <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
Gert,
You have a number of push pull rods, depending on where you fix it, the
backlash,free play, slop, spil,slr (dansk ;-) ) can be in the remaining
connections btw trailing edge and fixed point, including the aileron
hinge itself. If you can put a finger f.ex. on the joint btw aileron
and pushrod and wiggle the bits youll be able to feel the play if there
is any.
Continue doing that on all connections until you have eliminated all
play within reason....
Alex, kit 529-
Wings to be closed, rudder and ribs to fit, engine and instruments to
buy and fit...paint and upholstery........and then all the little things
on the wishlist!
(Glider quality finish, magnetic fuel level indication, lots of clever
and light glass in the panel, an emergency pop out ram air generator and
a rubber band aileron trim..I will probably have to wait a few years for
the Stirling engine to be available so the 912S and VP prop is going to
drive it in the beginning )
owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by:
>
>Hi
>During annual check I note that there are backlash ( - not sure if it's
>the right word, but think you know what I mean) in my aileron hinges.
>Definition: after fixing the push/pull rods the TE of the ailerons can
>be moved about 2 millimeters.
>Backlash in rod-ends and bellcrank are nil.
>Q: have others experienced simular wear?
>Regards
>Gert
>
>
>Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
>
>Europa builder No. 151
>Europa Classic / Rotax 914
>250 hours
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Faulty Oil Temp sensor |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
Roger Anderson wrote:
> The sensor is unscrewed from the engine block and is mounted on the air
> intake just below the engine using a P clip. It is then re-connected
> hydraulically with the engine using a flexible coupling. I used a 0.305
> metre length of Speedflex (SS braided Teflon hose) with 1/8" NPT terminals -
Perhaps I'm missing something, but how can the oil circulate within the tubing
to give you an accurate temperature reading?
Regards,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | 25% COST SAVINGS - MIL-T-4345B Electronic Lacing Cord |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000@yahoo.com>
I have some "Brand New" (in original packaging)
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* Least expensive way to make Wire Bundles.
* Will not cut into wires like Dental Floss
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* Each Spool contains 500 yards of BLUE Cord.
(Share with other Builders)
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* See: www.versatileindustrial.com/gudebrod.html
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* Selling for $16 per Spool (Blue color) -
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If interested, E-mail me off-line at-
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| Subject: | Tailwheel fork Corrosion |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am wondering if others have found corrosion around the welds on the new
tailwheel forks. On the inside of my fork there is significant corrosion,
and I believe I will need it rewelded to ascertain its integrity. It has
been in a plastic bucket with a lid all this time, and all other
componentry within are OK. The surface is plated or something too, whilst
the metal seems to be aluminium. When I find my magnet I will know. So, if
anyone else has had this problem I would appreciate knowing.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
Classic 236 Taildragger (possibly convertible)
Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
Intended Engine: 912S or a "turboed single rotor rotary, when I am dreaming"
Instrumentation: Undecided
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