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1. 12:15 AM - A Special Thank You - List of Contributors (Matt Dralle)
2. 12:27 AM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out (hedley brown)
3. 12:37 AM - Re: Garmin 295 as GPS Source for Data (hedley brown)
4. 12:41 AM - "drop of the hat" fly out (Tony Burbidge)
5. 01:09 AM - Re: Garmin 295 as GPS Source for Data (Gerry Holland)
6. 01:18 AM - Re: Auto CAD file? (G-IANI)
7. 01:19 AM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out (R.C.Harrison)
8. 04:13 AM - Re: Auto CAD file? (Paul Bunting)
9. 05:57 AM - Filemaker database? (Tom Paul)
10. 07:35 AM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington (Peter Grant)
11. 12:44 PM - Re: Fuel filler conection (Ami McFadyean)
12. 12:55 PM - Fuel filler conection (Richard Holder)
13. 01:03 PM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington (bryan allsop)
14. 01:03 PM - europa club e-mail going adrift (Rowland Carson)
15. 01:03 PM - Re: Auto CAD file? (Rowland Carson)
16. 01:29 PM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington (Ami McFadyean)
17. 02:19 PM - Re: Auto CAD file? (Paul Bunting)
18. 02:29 PM - Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington (Simonnash41@aol.com)
19. 02:37 PM - Re: engines? - Costs (Europa Aircraft)
20. 02:41 PM - Re: Filemaker database? (Rowland Carson)
21. 02:48 PM - Re: Engine supply (Guil Barros)
22. 02:48 PM - Re: "drop the hat" on Sunday - Connington (bryan allsop)
23. 03:59 PM - Re: T. P. Pip pins (ScramIt@aol.com)
24. 05:42 PM - Re: T. P. Pip pins (Kevin Klinefelter)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser was pleasantly successful and I want to thank
everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the continued
operation and upgrade of these Lists! Below you will find the complete
list of this year's Contributors. Its these great guys that make it all
possible! All of the List members owe these special people a debt of
gratitude.
I would also like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ) for again this year providing free and
substantially discounted merchandise in support of the Fund Raiser. Andy
is a great guy and I encourage you to check out his very nice web
site. Thanks again, Andy!!
For those of you that ordered gifts with your Contribution, I will be
shipping these out over the next few weeks as the merchandise arrives and
as I can get all of the orders processed. Its quite a job so I appreciate
your patience! I hope to have everything on its way by the end of the
month if not sooner.
If you would still like to make a Contribution to support the Lists, please
feel free to do so! If you'd like to receive one of the awesome free
gifts, they will be available on the web page though the end of the
month. The Contribution web page can be found here:
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Finally, I would like to once again sincerely thank each and everyone of
you that took the time to make a Contribution to support the Lists this
year! Your kind support greatly appreciated!
THANK YOU!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Adamson, Arden
Akin, Thomas
Alber, John
Alexander, Don
Alexander, George
Allender, Pat
Allison, Steven
Amick, Michael
Amundsen, Blair
Anderson, Douglas
Anderson, Edward
Andrews, Myles
Anthony, Bruce
Applefeld, Gerald
Aronson, David
Aschliman, Jim
Atkinson, Harold
Austin, Peter
Avant, David
Ayers, Jim
Babb, Tony
Bahrns, Stan
Bailey, Rick
Baker, Gary
Baker, James
Baker, Owen
Baker, Roger
Bales, Robert
Ballenger, Jim
Balmer, G
Banus, Mark
Barnett, William
Barrie, Darwin
Barter, Thomas
Basiliere, Richard
Bataller, Gary
Batte, W.Granville
Bean, James
Bean, Robert
Beard, Harley
Becker, Charles
Bell, BruceB.
Belted, Air Power, Ltd
Benham, Dallas
Benjamin, Hal
Benson, Lonn
Benson, Lonnie
Berg, Wayne
Bergeron, Daniel
Bernard, William
Berner, Walter
Bernier, Jim
Berry, Bruce
Bertelli, John
Bertrand, Carl
Berube, Bob
Bezzard, Richar
Bidle, Jerry
Bieberdorf, Roger
Bish, Dan
Blackwell, Charles
Blake, Peter
Blank, Steven
Blomgren, Jack
Bohannon, Larry
Bond, Charles
Bonsell, Edward
Booze, Greg
Borne, Chuck
Bosomworth, David
Boucher, Michel
Boulet, Paul
Bourne, Larry
Bowen, Larry
Bowhay, Eustace
Brame, Charles
Branstrom, Dan
Brasch, Glenn
Breckenridge, Bruce
Brick, John
Brogley, Michael
Brooks, Chris
Brooks, John
Brooks, Ken
Brooks, William
Broomell, Glenn
Brown, Gerald R.
Bruce, L.B.
Bruch, Stein
Brunke, Judy
Buchanan, Sam
Buchmann, Kenneth
Buess, Alfred
Bullock, Jack
Bumhoffer, Al
Burke, James
Burks, Terrell
Burns, John
Burton, Charlie
Burton, James
Burton, Ron
Butcher, James
Butcher, Ron
Butler, Francis
Butterfield, John
Buyse, Lieven
Calhoun, Ron
Calloway, Terry
Campbell, Greg
Cann, Robert
Cantrell, Jimmy
Capen, Ralph
Capra, Salvatore
Cardell, William
Carden, Richard
CarillonSr., Paul
Carney, William
Carpenter, Kenneth
Carr, David
Carroll, Randy
Carson, Rowland
Carter, David
Cary, William
Challgren, Stanley
Chambers, Ken
Champ, Nicolas
Chandler, Charles
Chandler, John
Ciolino, John
Clark, James
Clark, John
Clarkson, Scott
Clayton, James
Cliff, John
Cloud, Ralph
Clyma, Frank
Cochran, Jerry
Coffey, John
Coggins, Michael
Cole, Gary
Cole, Gerry
Colley, Larry
Colucci, Tony
Combined, Merchants
Combs, Doyle
Comer, Dave
Comfort, Gordon
Compton, Scott
Conaway, James
Condrey, Bob
Cone, James
Connell, Joseph
Conrad, Gerald
Conti, Richard
Cook, Craig
Cooley, John
Cooper, James
Corbalis, Leo
Corbette, Claude
Corder, Michael
Corner, Jim
Cotter, Tim
Cotton, David
Cottrell, Larry
Coulter, Carlin
Coursey, William
Courtney, Dean
Courtney, James
Couture, Wayne
Cribb, William
Croke, Jon
Crook, Tracy
Crosby, Harry
Crosley, Richard
Cruikshank, Bruce
D'Onofrio, John
Dalstrom, Douglas
Dalton, Bob
Daniel, Karie
Danielsen, HansJurgen
Darby, Frank
Daudt, Larry
Davenport, Jimmy
Davidson, Adam And Janet
Davidson, Jeff
Davies, Brian
Davis, Charles
Davis, Chris
Davis, Nathan
Davis, Peter
Davis, Terry
Dawson , Clif
Dawson, Garth
DeJong, Jan
Dearinger, William
Decramer, Dick
Deford, David
Denham, Bob
Dennis, Chris
Derouchey, Bill
Desmond, Richard
Devaney, Bob
Devere, Al
Diehl, Don
Diffenbaugh, Scott
Disher, John
Dixon, Thomas (Steve)
Dominy, Ken
Donaldson, Norman
Doran, Thomas
Dresden, Robert
Driscoll, Patrick
Dube, Bill
Dudley, Richard
Duffy, Russell
Dukerich, Thomas
Dumoret, Paul
Eagleston, Ron
Eckel, John
Edwards, Garland
Edwards, Joseph
Eginton, William
Eli, Robert
Ellenberger, Mike
Elliott, Andrew
Ellison, Craig
Enga, Wallace
Engh, Duncan
Enns, Dennis
Erb, Bob
Erickson, Alan
Erickson, Gerald
Erikson, Donald
Ervin, Tom
Erwin, Chip
Esterhuizen, Deon
Etherington, Al
Evans, Walt
Evenson, Roger
Fackler, Ken
Faris, Kevin
Farmer, Daniel
Fasching, John
Feldmann, StephenW.
Ferrer, Gabriel
Finley, John
Finley, Jon
Fischer, Doug
Fishe, JF
Fisher, Dru
Fisher, Michael
Fisher, Tom
Fitzpatrick, Robert
Flamini, Dennis
Flavin, John
Fleck, Joe
Foerster, James
Fogerson, Richard
Forrest, Gerald
Fox, Byron
Franz, Carl
Frazier, Ford
Frazier, Vince
Friedland, Thomas
Frizzell, Alex
Frye, Dwight
Fulgham, W.R.
Fulmer, JosephA
Fux, Franz
Gagnon, Laurent
Gagnon, Tim
Galati, Rick
Gallagher, Noel
Galley, Cy
Gantzer, Charles
Gardner, Albert
Gardner, Terrence
Garner, Mitchell
Gates, Leo
Gawronski, Brian
Gaylen Lerohl, Terminaltown
Geldermann, Dan
Genzlinger, Reade
George, William
Gerken, James
German, Mark
Gernetzke-hays, Jill
Gherardini, Don
Giacona, William
Giddens, Gerald
Gillespie, Dick
Giusti, Roberto
Glass, Roy
Golden, Shane
Gonzalez, Jorge
Goode, Richard
Goodings, John
Goodman, David
Goolsby, JamesE.
Gordon, Keith
Gott, Shelby
Goudinoff, Peter
Gowing, John
Grabb, Gary
Graber, Joel
Graham, Gary
Graham, Jim
Graham, W.Doyce
Grant, Jordan
Grebe, David
Green, Luther
Green, Roger
Greenough, Jim
Gregory, Michael
Griffin, Bill
Griffin, James
Griffin, Robert
Grosse, John
Gustafson, Aaron
Haertlein, Frank
Hagar, Steve
Haley, Gary
Hallsten, Keith
Hamer, Steve
Hamilton, William J
Hand, Chris
Hankins, Roger
Hankinson, Jimmy
Harbour, Keith
Hardaway, Mike
Harding, Joel
Harmon, John
Harrison, Nigel
Hartwig, Richard
Harvey, Dale
Hasper, Jim
Hatch, Pat
Hatcher, Edmund
Hatfield, Cecil Jr.
Hauck, JohnR
Haynes, Joel
Heath, Donald
Hefner, Jim
Heindl, Karl
Heitman, Christopher
Helming, Larry
Heritch, Ian
Herminghaus, John
Herren, Bill
Hetrick, Dale
Heykoop, John
Hibbing, William
Hill, Jeff
Hill, Ken
Hill, Stanley A
Himes, Joe
Hinrichsen, Jim
Hodgson, Mark
Hodgson, Robert
Hoffman, Carl
Hoffman, Curtis
Hoffmann, Thomas
Hohos, Charles
Holifield, Steve
Holland, Mike
Holland, Rick
Holmes, Tom
Hood, Bill
Hooper, Gerald
Hooper, Randy
Horton, Kevin
Hostetler, Donald
Howell, Pete
Howerton, Bill
Hubbard, Eugene
Hudson, Jeff
Hueltz, Wolfgang
Huff, Scott
Huft, John
Hughes, Robert
Hulen, Fred
Humbert, Robert
Humes, Hubert
Humes, Hugh
Humphrey, Roger
Hunt, Peter
Hunt, Wallace G
Hurd, James
Hurst, Kingsley
Hutchison, Tom
Hyde, David
Ice, Michael
Iddon, Richard
Irvin, Robert
Isler, Jerry
Jackson, Kevin
Jacobson, Marshall
Jannakos, Gregory
Jaussi, Curtis
Jenkins, John
Jensen, Jerry
Jewell, James
Johannsson, Johann G.
John Allen Hurn, Hurns Aircraft
Johnsen, Svein
Johnson, Bruce
Johnson, Dale
Johnson, Dennis
Johnson, Les
Johnson, Murray
Johnson, Robert
Johnston, Stephen
Jones, Eric
Joosten, Craig
Jordan, JR
Joyce, David
Jurotich, Matthew
Kahn, Steve
Kaluza, Charles
Karmy, Andrew
Kaser, Jim
Kayner, Dennis
Kellum, Mark
Kempthorne, Hal
Kent, John
Kerr, John
Kerr, Joseph
Kesterton, Donald
Kilburg, Larry
Killion, Clay
Kimsey, Thomas
Kinney, Kevin
Kirby, Graham
Kirk, Tony
Knepper, Harold
Knoll, Lynn
Kohn, Carl
Koonce, R.L.
Kosta, Michael
Kottke, Dwight
Kovac, Harold
Kramer, Ed
Krasinski, Jerzy
Krok, Peter
Krueger, Grant
Kunkel, Fred
Kuntz, Paul
Kyle, Fergus
Lahey, Jim
Laird, Dave
Laishes, Jeff
Lally, Sean
Lalonde, Bart
Landucci, Larry
Lannon, W.
Lasecki, Robert
Laurie, Kip
Laverty, Charles
Lavigne, Pat
Lawliss, James
Lawrence, Derek
Lawton, John
Ledbetter, Gene
Ledoux, Paul
Lee, Terrence
Lefler, Fabian
Lekven, Carl
Lemen, Ted
Lenton, Dennis
Leonard, Nicolas
Leslie, George
Lewis, Terry
Lewis, Tim
Licking, Larry
Lifer, Craig
Liming, Gary
Linebaugh, Jeff
Linse, Michael
Lloyd, Brian
Long, Charles
Long, Eugene
Long, Patrick
Loubert, Gary
Mack, Don
Mackay, Alex
Madden, Peter
Magsam, Del
Mahr, Egon
Mains, Ralph
Malich, Gunter
Markle, Jim
Markwell, Cleone
Marshall, F.R.
Marshall, Nigel
Marson, Thomas
Martin, Bryan
Martin, Clifford
Martin, Richard
Mason, Ron
Matteson, Robert
Maxson, Phillip
Maynor, Troy
Mcallister, Paul
Mcbride, Duncan
Mccallister, Donald
Mccallum, Bob
Mccutchan, Bruce
Mcfarland, Larry
Mcfarland, Randy
Mcfarlane, Lloyd
Mcgregor, Bruce
Mcintosh, Wayne
Mcintyre, Jay
Mckervey, Joseph
Mcleod, Neil
Mcmanus, Jim
Medeiros, Joel
Meehan, Don
Mekeel, DonaldE
Melenyzer, Charles IV
Merchant, Dean
Merrill, Dj
Messinger, Paul
Meyette, Brian
Michel, Riazuelo
Miller, David
Miller, Mark
Miller, Robert
Miller, Warren
Mills, Moe
Mills, William
Milner, Gregory
Milner, Red
Mineart, Stephen
Mitchell, HD
Moak, Ken
Montagne, Raymond
Montgomery, Dale
Moore, David
Moore, Glenn
Moore, Marbert
Moore, Warren
Morawski, Brett
Morelli, William
Morin, Mauri
Morrison, Douglas
Morrison, Malcolm
Morrow, Dan
Mosher, Doc
Mosier, Colby
Mrotzek, Dan
Muegge, James
Murphy, George
Murray, Ronald
Murrill, Robert
Myers, John
Myhra, Donald
Nascimento, Marcio
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Neilsen, Richard
Nelson, William
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Nickson, Dennis
Nolan, Jim
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Noyer, Robert
Nyman, Stephen
O'Brien, Dan
O'Donnell, David
O'Reilly, Colm
Oberst, James
Oconnor, Edward
Ohlinger, Judith
Ohlinger, Mark & Judy
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Oldford, David
Olendorf, James
Orear, Jeff
Otaola, Ricardo
Ouellette, Will
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Owens, Duane
Owens, Phil
Packard, Tom
Parker, Dennis
Parks, Dann
Partyka, LeeM
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Payne, Craig
Payne, Ron
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Perez, M. Domenic
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Puckett, Greg
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Reading, Thomas Sr
Red Dragon Aviation
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Reusser, Hans-Peter
Reynolds, Richard
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Settlemyer, Art
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Sletten, Mark
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Solecki, John
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Starn, John H. "kabong"
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Stewart, Shannon
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Strong, Gary
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Sutterfield, Stan
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Swanson, Ronald
Swartzendruber, David
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Thompson, Scott
Thomure, Randall
Thwing, Randy
Titcomb, Edward
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Trainer, Dave
Trombley, Erich
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Trumpfheller, Bob
Tuton, Beauford
Twigg, Alan
Tyler, George
Unruh, Brian
Unternaehrer, Rolf
Utter, Bob
Van Winkle, Dean
VanHeeswijk, Jack
VanHeuveln, Lemar
VanSchoonhoven, Peter
Vanartsdalen, Scott
Vandenbroek, Martin
Vangrunsven, Stan
Vaughan, Cye
Vaughn, John
Verdev, Victor
Vervoort-Woestenburg, Jef
Vincent, Bill
Vogt, Gary
VonRuden, Dennis
Vormbaum, John
Voss, Richard
Vranken, Karel
Wagoner, Richard
Waldal, Art B.
Walker, Dale
Walker, Tommy
Walker, Weston
Walrath, Howard
Walsh, Denis
Ward, Timothy
Washburn, Oliver
Watson, Richard
Watson, Terrence
Watters, Daniel
Weaver, Erich
Weaver, Fred
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Weber, Edward
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Whittier, Lavoy (aka Bucky)
Wigney, John
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Williams , John
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Williams, Jeff
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Williams, Terry
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Woboril, David
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
Today Fishburn = 'Fog-not-burning'. It'll have to be Friday if it isn't too
windy by then!
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From: "Tony Burbidge" <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
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> The latest weather forecast for tomorrow is a little inconclusive, to say
the least. I think a look at Thursday mornings TAFS / METARS will be
decision time to go, or postpone until Friday.
>
> Regards and safe flying
>
> Tony
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 295 as GPS Source for Data |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
I use a Pilot III for the Memory-Map system; never look at the pilot III's
screen now.
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From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Garmin 295 as GPS Source for Data
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> I am wondering if anyone is using output data from a Garmin 295 for
> anything, like a moving map on another system?
>
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> Classic 236 Taildragger (possibly convertible)
> Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
> Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
> Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
> Intended Engine: 912S or a "turboed single rotor rotary, when I am
dreaming"
> Instrumentation: Undecided
>
>
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| Subject: | "drop of the hat" fly out |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge" <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
The latest forecast looks marginal but flyable, and with a similar outlook for
the next few days, we might as well try and go for it today.
I will be on my mobile from 8.30am. onwards. 07944 175286
My Home number is:- 01926 419499
Regards and safe Flying
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Garmin 295 as GPS Source for Data |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Tony Hi!
The NMAE or Garmin Protocol output from 295 can do just about whatever you
want. It can drive PC, MAC or PDA or indeed Display only versions of Skymap
or other 'non engined' GPS.
You choose your platform and you'll then find good Mapping Software
available including Aeronautical mapping. Someone mentioned Memory Map. It's
good.
I have driven all of these from the NMAE and Garmin protocols and also used
my own scanned Charts and initialised them against set Lat/Longs.
The beauty of Memory map, Fugawi, OZI Explorer is that the Maps are already
initialised for immediate and accurate use. So many of the new PDA's have
great daylght/sunlight viewing so cost and capability can be chosen.
A good Australian Company is OziExplorer.
http://www.oziexplorer.com/
If you need any additional information e-mail me off line.
Regards
Gerry
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
The drawing ga.dxf may have problems. I can open it with M/S Digital image
pro. I cannot open it with Autocad Lite (2000) or Irfanview. Both of these
report a corrupt or invalid header. This may be an "Apple" problem. If
Roland has access to the original (or we can ask Roger at Europa for another
copy) I will be happy to convert it to DXF and test it with a range of
programs.
I have the trigear version of the same drawing as a DWG (autocad format) and
can turn this into a DXF if this helps.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep, (2000 hours building) very nearly ready to
fly
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto CAD file?
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 12 03 at 08:49 +0000, Steve Hagar wrote:
>Does anyone have an accurate rendering of the XS monowheel in profile in an
>Auto CAD file
Steve - there is a file called ga.dxf on the Europa Club CD-ROM ------
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: "drop of the hat" fly out |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Hedley.
We are "going for it " today Hedley. Quite a bit of wind to move the fog
away from here if there was any !
Hope it blows sufficiently at Fishburn to allow you to make it ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown"
<hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
>
> Today Fishburn = 'Fog-not-burning'. It'll have to be Friday if it isn't
too
> windy by then!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Burbidge" <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
> To: "Europa List" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
> <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
> >
> > The latest weather forecast for tomorrow is a little inconclusive, to
say
> the least. I think a look at Thursday mornings TAFS / METARS will be
> decision time to go, or postpone until Friday.
> >
> > Regards and safe flying
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting" <paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
Hi,
The following error is also displayed in AutoCAD 2002 (PC):
Invalid block name M/C
Invalid or incomplete DXF input -- drawing discarded.
However the file on the CD opens no problem in Microstation v8.1 which
allowed me to save it as dwg, etc for anyone who wants another format.
Regards,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Auto CAD file?
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
The drawing ga.dxf may have problems. I can open it with M/S Digital
image pro. I cannot open it with Autocad Lite (2000) or Irfanview.
Both of these report a corrupt or invalid header. This may be an
"Apple" problem. If Roland has access to the original (or we can ask
Roger at Europa for another
copy) I will be happy to convert it to DXF and test it with a range of
programs.
I have the trigear version of the same drawing as a DWG (autocad format)
and can turn this into a DXF if this helps.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep, (2000 hours building) very nearly ready
to fly e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Auto CAD file?
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 12 03 at 08:49 +0000, Steve Hagar wrote:
>Does anyone have an accurate rendering of the XS monowheel in profile
>in an Auto CAD file
Steve - there is a file called ga.dxf on the Europa Club CD-ROM ------
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Filemaker database? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tom Paul <tom@tompaul.com>
I am in the very early stages of my europa project. I have purchased a
partially-built kit and I am beginning to amass a pile of various info that
needs cataloging. I thought I might design a simple filemaker pro database
for this, where things are organized by category, and there is place for all
relevant info and links. Then it occurred to me that someone has no doubt
already done this. Yes? Are you sharing?
Thanks!
Tom Paul
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| Subject: | "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
Thanks to all for a fun lunchtime, sorry my stay was brief!
G-OGAN Europa TriGear 912+Airmaster
Recently resurrected after near total in France 18 months ago!
Regards
Peter Grant
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10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 522605 Mobile: 07774 923160
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the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Burbidge
Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
<tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
The latest forecast looks marginal but flyable, and with a similar
outlook for the next few days, we might as well try and go for it today.
I will be on my mobile from 8.30am. onwards. 07944 175286
My Home number is:- 01926 419499
Regards and safe Flying
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel filler conection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Personally, I would put a thin coating of some kind of gunge (Hylomar or
silicone) on the filler hose joints as I'm not convinced that mine is
vapour-proof without such; but they don't leak as such..
Duncan Mcf.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Roberts" <jeff@rmmm.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel filler conection
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
>
> I have just connected my fuel filler with one of the aluminum elbows I
> received from Flight Crafters. We used 2 pieces of 2-inch marine grade red
> dot hose on each end with clamps to connect it. My question is should I
have
> put any sort of dressing onto the fuel tank outlet and the plastic filler
> connected to the fuselage. I used double clamps on all connections and it
> feels very tight. Hope I don't have to worry about any leeks.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jeff
> A258 Tri
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel filler conection |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>
> Personally, I would put a thin coating of some kind of gunge (Hylomar or
> silicone) on the filler hose joints as I'm not convinced that mine is
> vapour-proof without such; but they don't leak as such..
Having suffered a bad misfire because some silicone sealant ended up
blocking a jet I would say do NOT put any sealant on ANY fuel line joints
past the filters, and probably anywhere !
As I was not the airframe builder I am not sure whether sealant was used,
but some arrived in a jet.
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, EGSG (Stapleford)
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
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| Subject: | Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
It looks as though I missed it. I opened the curtains this morning to find
misty valleys and no tops to the hills.I thought that it would be improbable
that anyone else would attempt it , and gave my life over to the simpler
things in life. Yet! surprise surprise! My flying friends turned out to be
made of sterner stuff, and have been and gone and done it. Curses!
Where is the next one fellers? OR. Is anyone thinking about having another
pop at Peterborough Friday or Sunday?----- Regards Bryan A
Original Message -----
From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
>
> Thanks to all for a fun lunchtime, sorry my stay was brief!
>
> G-OGAN Europa TriGear 912+Airmaster
> Recently resurrected after near total in France 18 months ago!
>
> Regards
> Peter Grant
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
> Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 522605 Mobile: 07774 923160
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> This email is intended for the sole use of
> the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact
> the sender and delete the message. We accept no liability for misuse of
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> Burbidge
> To: Europa List
> Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
> <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
>
> The latest forecast looks marginal but flyable, and with a similar
> outlook for the next few days, we might as well try and go for it today.
>
> I will be on my mobile from 8.30am. onwards. 07944 175286
>
> My Home number is:- 01926 419499
>
> Regards and safe Flying
>
> Tony
>
>
> > ==
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
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| Subject: | europa club e-mail going adrift |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Apologies to those who have tried to contact me (or indeed any of the
Europa Club Committee) through the <europaclub.org.uk> domain
addresses. In addition to the website problems which Aviators Network
seem unable to resolve, the e-mail forwarding they do for us has
stopped working as well.
As a result of the standard of service from AvNet, we expect move to
a new server & host soon, but that will depend upon AvNet releasing
the tags from their DNS server in a timely fashion, as well as upon
us organising a replica of the website on a new server. It is
possible that the method of access for the members-only area may
change, but we will try to make this as painless as possible for you
all.
In the meantime, ignore the e-mail address in my .sig file and use
either the one on the header of this message or preferably
<europa-club@rowil.clara.net> for Europa topics.
regards
Rowland
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 12 04 at 09:18 +0000, G-IANI wrote:
>The drawing ga.dxf may have problems. I can open it with M/S Digital image
>pro. I cannot open it with Autocad Lite (2000) or Irfanview. Both of these
>report a corrupt or invalid header. This may be an "Apple" problem.
Don't think it's the latter as the file I distribute on the CD-ROM is
pretty much as I received from Andy. (It may have acquired a Mac icon
in the resource fork, but DOS-based systems ignore that and only read
the data fork anyway). I have also tried re-saving it from CADintosh
and that creates a DXF file about twice the size. I suggest we
exchange files at the Europa Club Committee meeting on Saturday so I
can have the tri-gear on next week's CD-ROM.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Good idea! Go for it on Sunday, providing the promised cold front clears out
this murk before then.
Personally, I don't like the idea of flying midweek below 2000' (forecast
cloudbase was 1800' this pm), elsewise competing with fast jets.
Duncan McF.
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
<info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
>
> It looks as though I missed it. I opened the curtains this morning to find
> misty valleys and no tops to the hills.I thought that it would be
improbable
> that anyone else would attempt it , and gave my life over to the simpler
> things in life. Yet! surprise surprise! My flying friends turned out to be
> made of sterner stuff, and have been and gone and done it. Curses!
> Where is the next one fellers? OR. Is anyone thinking about having another
> pop at Peterborough Friday or Sunday?----- Regards Bryan A
> Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant"
<peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
> >
> > Thanks to all for a fun lunchtime, sorry my stay was brief!
> >
> > G-OGAN Europa TriGear 912+Airmaster
> > Recently resurrected after near total in France 18 months ago!
> >
> > Regards
> > Peter Grant
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
> > Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 522605 Mobile: 07774 923160
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > This email is intended for the sole use of
> > the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please contact
> > the sender and delete the message. We accept no liability for misuse of
> > this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked by
> > Norton Anti-Virus.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > Burbidge
> > To: Europa List
> > Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
> >
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
> > <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
> >
> > The latest forecast looks marginal but flyable, and with a similar
> > outlook for the next few days, we might as well try and go for it today.
> >
> > I will be on my mobile from 8.30am. onwards. 07944 175286
> >
> > My Home number is:- 01926 419499
> >
> > Regards and safe Flying
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> > ==
> >
> >
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Bunting" <paul.bunting@developtheweb.com>
Hi Rowland,
I too had a problem with the dxf file, opening it in AutoCAD 2002 (PC)
gave an error, however it opened fine in Microstation v8.1 from which I
saved it as a dwg, which opens no problem in AutoCAD. I have attached
the dwg for you, if you want it in any other formats let me know and
I'll see what I can do.
When you get the tri-gear version, I'd be grateful if you could send me
it, as it is the tri-gear that I am building.
Thanks,
Paul
#594
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland
Carson
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Auto CAD file?
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 12 04 at 09:18 +0000, G-IANI wrote:
>The drawing ga.dxf may have problems. I can open it with M/S Digital
>image pro. I cannot open it with Autocad Lite (2000) or Irfanview.
>Both of these report a corrupt or invalid header. This may be an
>"Apple" problem.
Don't think it's the latter as the file I distribute on the CD-ROM is
pretty much as I received from Andy. (It may have acquired a Mac icon
in the resource fork, but DOS-based systems ignore that and only read
the data fork anyway). I have also tried re-saving it from CADintosh
and that creates a DXF file about twice the size. I suggest we
exchange files at the Europa Club Committee meeting on Saturday so I
can have the tri-gear on next week's CD-ROM.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Simonnash41@aol.com
Hi I may join you Sunday PM, not in the Europa...still being built....I'll
be in a slow Beagle PUP.
Simon
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| Subject: | engines? - Costs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Hi All,
The FWF price without the Engine is $4,500 US. We also have the engine
modified, adding a ring mount - not included in the $12,000 quoted below.
This adds about $1,000 after parts & labor. We then include the high torque
starter, another $200. The engine with ring mount needs special crating
which adds another $200. Finally, the vacuum pump drive is included, which
is around $350. All our 912ULS engines also include an overload clutch - I
don't know if the Canadian distributor includes them or not.
Using $12,000 as a starting point, and adding the options above would take
the engine alone to $13,750. After taking the FWF out, the engine would be
$13,630. So the special from the Canadian distributor would cost you about
$120 if all the options I mentioned above are not included for $12,000.
I know that in the US it always costs less to get the engine included in the
FWF kit. With the exchange rate, and import costs, I don't know about
Canada.
Hope this helps!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Guil Barros
Subject: Europa-List: engines?
--> Europa-List message posted by: Guil Barros <flight@metathusalan.com>
ive been calling around to find out engine prices and have bumped into some
questions...
is the price provided by europa the regular price? it seems to be a little
high...
right now rotax (at least the canadian distributor) is having a sale with
the
912ULS (including clutch) going for CAN$ 15595 (about US$12000). This seems
quite far from the Europa ~US$15500 (after you remove the FFW kit).
thoughts?
what are other places i should look for engines?
thx,
-guil
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| Subject: | Re: Filemaker database? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
On 2003 12 04 at 08:56 -0500, Tom Paul wrote:
>I am in the very early stages of my europa project. I have purchased a
>partially-built kit and I am beginning to amass a pile of various info that
>needs cataloging. I thought I might design a simple filemaker pro database
>for this, where things are organized by category, and there is place for all
>relevant info and links. Then it occurred to me that someone has no doubt
>already done this. Yes? Are you sharing?
Tom - HELLO! Another FMP user! Yes, I have catalogued the build
manual pages (monowheel only so far, firewall aft) and keyed in the
kit inventory. All this and more is available to Europa Club members
......
regards
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| Subject: | Re: Engine supply |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Guil Barros <flight@metathusalan.com>
sorry about the PGP block, i've disabled that...
whats included in the Europa engine kit? i understand the idea of paying a
little more to support a good system, but as a responsible consumer i feel that
i need to make sure im getting my money's worth :)
Let me make myself clear: this is not a complaint or rip on Europa, i have yet
to deal with them so i cant really say anything positive (pretty plane
pictures?), i just want to know where my $18k is going :)
again, thanks for all the info, this list is great!
thanks,
-guil
Quoting John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>:
>
>
> _>>>> _Hi Guil, Suggest you rely on Europa, Lakeland. You will get
> everything you need from John Hurst with the FWF kit and you are also
> indirectly supporting the continuing excellent customer support. If
> you buy now, your warranty may be affected by your build time. BTW,
> your emails are the only ones we see with a very large and
> inscrutable PGP public key block. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS,
> 912S_ _
Message 22
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| Subject: | Re: "drop the hat" on Sunday - Connington |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
OK Duncan and Simon! Looks like we're on then. Sunday, Connington,
brandishing our freebie Flyer fees, 12 noon.
Looking forward to it. Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Good idea! Go for it on Sunday, providing the promised cold front clears
out
> this murk before then.
> Personally, I don't like the idea of flying midweek below 2000' (forecast
> cloudbase was 1800' this pm), elsewise competing with fast jets.
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> Do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop"
> <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > It looks as though I missed it. I opened the curtains this morning to
find
> > misty valleys and no tops to the hills.I thought that it would be
> improbable
> > that anyone else would attempt it , and gave my life over to the simpler
> > things in life. Yet! surprise surprise! My flying friends turned out to
be
> > made of sterner stuff, and have been and gone and done it. Curses!
> > Where is the next one fellers? OR. Is anyone thinking about having
another
> > pop at Peterborough Friday or Sunday?----- Regards Bryan A
> > Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Grant" <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out - Connington
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant"
> <peter@us-eurolink.co.uk>
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for a fun lunchtime, sorry my stay was brief!
> > >
> > > G-OGAN Europa TriGear 912+Airmaster
> > > Recently resurrected after near total in France 18 months ago!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Peter Grant
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 10 The Sidings, Horncastle LN9 5UA
> > > Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 522605 Mobile: 07774 923160
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > This email is intended for the sole use of
> > > the addressee. If you have received this email in error, please
contact
> > > the sender and delete the message. We accept no liability for misuse
of
> > > this email however caused. Outgoing emails are automatically checked
by
> > > Norton Anti-Virus.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > > Burbidge
> > > To: Europa List
> > > Subject: Europa-List: "drop of the hat" fly out
> > >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Burbidge"
> > > <tony.burbidge@virgin.net>
> > >
> > > The latest forecast looks marginal but flyable, and with a similar
> > > outlook for the next few days, we might as well try and go for it
today.
> > >
> > > I will be on my mobile from 8.30am. onwards. 07944 175286
> > >
> > > My Home number is:- 01926 419499
> > >
> > > Regards and safe Flying
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > > ==
> > > ==
> > > ==
> > > ==
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: T. P. Pip pins |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
In a message dated 12/3/03 5:19:22 PM, tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au writes:
> Steve,
> What is this about larger pip pins, and why do you reckon you need them?
>
Not larger pip pins, Europa Mod #62.
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/Builder%20Support/newsupport.htm
"There have been some cases of wear developing in the 1/4=E2=80=9D drive pins and
their associated bores in
the tailplane torque tubes, resulting in play in the pitch drive mechanism.
This modification replaces
the 1/4=E2=80=9D diameter pins with 3/8=E2=80=9D diameter pins."
Wear has nothing to do with me. Putting the 1/4" pins in I caught the edge of
one of the TP12 and I fish mouthed the hole. I tapped down the fish mouth and
had to drill the damaged edge out. This required the larger pins to fix my
fixing.
So, have you got an engine type sorted, and prop, instruments etc?
I have the 912S, taking the starter and gear box off this weekend and sending
to get the upgraded starter and slipper clutch installed. AirMasters is in
its box. Bluemountain EFS lite and KMD 150 are ready to go.......
SteveD.
Trying to set the wings, outside in 30 degree weather.... good fun.... don't
know if i can wait until it gets down to incident of 2.5 degrees out, I'll
freeze! ; )
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Tony,
With your tailplanes installed grab em at the trailing edges and try to move
them opposite each other up & down. Mine (pre-skinned XS) had some slop so I
went for the mod., before the top went on. Had holes enlarged on a friends
machine for a no more slop very nice fit.
Kevin
Airframe done except for wing root fairings.
Lots of finish work, panel, electrical and 914 plumbing to go
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ScramIt@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: T. P. Pip pins
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
In a message dated 12/3/03 5:19:22 PM, tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au writes:
> Steve,
> What is this about larger pip pins, and why do you reckon you need them?
>
Not larger pip pins, Europa Mod #62.
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/Builder%20Support/newsupport.htm
"There have been some cases of wear developing in the 1/4=E2=80=9D drive
pins and
their associated bores in
the tailplane torque tubes, resulting in play in the pitch drive mechanism.
This modification replaces
the 1/4=E2=80=9D diameter pins with 3/8=E2=80=9D diameter pins."
Wear has nothing to do with me. Putting the 1/4" pins in I caught the edge
of
one of the TP12 and I fish mouthed the hole. I tapped down the fish mouth
and
had to drill the damaged edge out. This required the larger pins to fix my
fixing.
So, have you got an engine type sorted, and prop, instruments etc?
I have the 912S, taking the starter and gear box off this weekend and
sending
to get the upgraded starter and slipper clutch installed. AirMasters is in
its box. Bluemountain EFS lite and KMD 150 are ready to go.......
SteveD.
Trying to set the wings, outside in 30 degree weather.... good fun.... don't
know if i can wait until it gets down to incident of 2.5 degrees out, I'll
freeze! ; )
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