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1. 02:18 AM - Re: Fitting Stall Stips (nigel charles)
2. 02:18 AM - Re: fuel pressure switch (nigel charles)
3. 04:26 AM - Re: Centenary Fly In/Out - Turweston, 17/12/03 (Dari Sagar)
4. 08:52 AM - Re: Lightning Strikes to Composite Aircraft (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
5. 09:20 AM - Re: Lightning Strikes to Composite Aircraft (Simon Smith)
6. 10:48 AM - Centenial of flight (John & Amy Eckel)
7. 12:32 PM - Parachutes (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
8. 01:12 PM - Re: Layup on Balsa TE of Trim Tabs (James Nelson)
9. 01:12 PM - europa club website & addresses (Rowland Carson)
10. 01:13 PM - Re: Centenial of flight (Fergus Kyle)
11. 02:26 PM - Re: Fitting Stall Stips (Miles McCallum)
12. 07:15 PM - Europa Club Website & Mozilla (Guil Barros)
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| Subject: | Re: Fitting Stall Stips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>Does anyone that is flying have any views regarding the fitment of stall
strips. We were initially advised that these were a bad idea and that an
electric stall warner was a better option. From what I remember, stall
strips are supposed to have an adverse effect on the landing characteristics
of the aircraft.<
Whilst stall strips improve warning of an impending stall, if fitted in a
position where they do that job, they can also raise the stall speed (by
5kts in some cases) which
rather negates the benefit. Stall warners do not degrade the aerodynamics
and can easily be set to give a warning at any desired speed/AOA.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: fuel pressure switch |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>here are the details of the Bosch pressure switch I'm using:
Bosch 0 344 101 055 oil pressure switch (0,05-0,15 bar) price approx
25,-<
With Klaus' help I have also used this switch with my parallel fuel system.
The setting of this switch is non adjustable but proved to be just right.
The previous adjustable switch I used was very difficult to set up correctly
as it would sometimes operate at too high a pressure or not operate at all.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Centenary Fly In/Out - Turweston, 17/12/03 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dari Sagar" <dari_sagar@hotmail.com>
David,
Hope to join you. Iffy at the moment as the aircraft is in dock. Will only
know for certain after Monday (possibly) when the repair has been completed.
Regards,
Dari
G-DURO
>From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: "Europa list" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Centenary Fly In/Out - Turweston, 17/12/03
>Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 11:58:16 -0000
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>--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce"
><davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Gloucester and Shobden Struts are joining in a fly in to Turweston on
>17/12 and welcome the Europa Hat Droppers to join them. We currently stand
>at 21 aircraft intending to go (weather willing, naturally) but anticipate
>numbers increasing to perhaps 40 planes. It gives us all an opportunity to
>inspect the new PFA Headquarters, and the two Struts are marking the
>occasion by taking house warming presents to the PFA in liquid form.
> The airfield has a single 09/27 runway of 915m and we have Oxford
>earmarked as an alternative should the day bring strong N/S winds. We are
>also prepared to delay the fly in to 18/12 or 19/12 should the weather
>demand it. Although normally PPR by telephone, for this event that will not
>be needed if you have notified me of your intention to come. Please consult
>your Pooleys (or whichever) for flying instructions but note especially the
>noise abatement procedures with approach and departure to the N of the E/W
>line and the ban on overhead joins. If the organisers at Turweston advise
>it and numbers merit it,we may nearer the time suggest (via email) an
>assembly point flowing in to a down wind join, in rally fashion. Hinton in
>the Hedges tell me that they will be parachuting that day,if flyable so
>keep well clear if you want to arrive with both wings on!
> The normal landing fee is =A38 but the owner has said that they
>will reduce this for the event (but has not yet come up with an exact
>figure)
> There is one small restaurant which would seat about 30 but given
>notice they will open up the much larger catering facilities in the new PFA
>building. For this reason it is critical that we know the numbers intending
>to come. Please let me know soonest if you will come if weather allows,
>ideally with plane type and reg, + no pax. We can then give them numbers
>and reduce it nearer the time if the weather is dodgy. All those who email
>back to me will be kept updated with any modification of plans.
> The timetable that the struts are working to is:
> Arrive Turweston 11.30 to 12.00
> Eat, talk and presents to PFA 12.00 to 13.30
> Departures 13.30 to 14.30
> Sunset approx 15.45
> Happy landings, David Joyce
>
>
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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| Subject: | Re: Lightning Strikes to Composite Aircraft |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
There were two other events I read about envolving lightning strikes on
composite aircraft recently. One, a Lanceair broke apart in flight after an
apparent lightning strike killing all 4 on board. Another involved a glider, an
ASW
25 I think, that came apart in flight after a lighting strike. Both the
pilot/instructor and student parachuted out safely. Kinda makes you wonder about
using conductive fuel lines in a "plastic" airplane, doesn't it?
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245 (Wings closed up, gear on, flap actuator mounted, working on baggage
bay and shop heat, but mostly shop heat)
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Lightning Strikes to Composite Aircraft |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
The report by the AAIB into the glider accident is available at
http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafe
ty_500699.hcsp
Simon
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lightning Strikes to Composite Aircraft
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
There were two other events I read about envolving lightning strikes on
composite aircraft recently. One, a Lanceair broke apart in flight after an
apparent lightning strike killing all 4 on board. Another involved a glider,
an ASW
25 I think, that came apart in flight after a lighting strike. Both the
pilot/instructor and student parachuted out safely. Kinda makes you wonder
about
using conductive fuel lines in a "plastic" airplane, doesn't it?
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245 (Wings closed up, gear on, flap actuator mounted, working on baggage
bay and shop heat, but mostly shop heat)
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| Subject: | Centenial of flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Hello everyone,
I will be heading down to Kitty Hawk, NC tomorrow for the reenactment
of the first flight. The Wrights were the first home builders and I will be thinking
about all of you that are building your own. I think this is a international celebration
because so many people have contributed to the advancement of aviation.
If you are not aware the EAA will have coverage on the internet at
www.eaa.org.
Good flying and building,
John, A230
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--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hello all,
Anyone out there that do the first flight of a newly built experimental? When
you do this flight do you wear a parachute?
Or, people that do acrobatics. Since, in the USA, you are supposed to have a
parachute on while doing acro, what type of chute do you wear? How well does
it fit into the Europa? Is it a snug fit for the pilot on the days they want to
do acro legally?
Just a few questions to satisfy the wife/coplilot when she asks.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Cockpit module installed, tailplane torque tube in place, & landing gear
frame installed.
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| Subject: | Re: Layup on Balsa TE of Trim Tabs |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Rowland,
Turbin, smurbin, what do you expect from a bureaucracy like the
FAA. I really have an early 912 S pulling my fine airframe around in the
Florida air. Other than the weird starting requirements (all dependant
on temp's) it runs real nice. I do highly recommend the heated collars
for the carburetors to keep the ole carb ice monster away.
Jim Nelson
N15JN
(I did check my exhaust to see if it smelled of burnt kerosene - it just
smells of gas)
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:55:14 +0000 Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
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> At 2003 12 09 16:03 -0500 James H Nelson wrote:
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> > I have the Mono config and a 912 S
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> Not according to the FAA! N15JN is shown as "Turbo-jet" engine!
> Shurely shum mishtake here?
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> regards
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> Rowland
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| Subject: | europa club website & addresses |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Just to reassure those who have been trying to get into the
members-only section of the Europa Club website (which is for paid-up
Europa Club members only) that your Committee is taking steps to
resolve the problem. We will be leaving Aviators Network (where the
Club website has been hosted since 1995), but will retain the
(now-familiar, we hope) URL of <http://www.europaclub.org.uk>. We
hope to be able to open for business on a new host soon, and will
announce on this list when things are working again. In the interim,
please note that the Europa Club Committee e-mail addresses (such as
that shown in my signature) will bounce until we are re-established.
If you need to contact me, use <europa-club@rowil.clara.net> in the
meantime.
Thanks for all your patience.
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: Centenial of flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Centenial of flight
| --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
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| Hello everyone,
| I will be heading down to Kitty Hawk, NC tomorrow for the reenactment
| of the first flight OF PROVEN SUSTAINED FLIGHT. The Wrights were the
first home builders....
......I don't think so. That would make the hundred or so pilots before them
commercial purchasers. Let's keep things in perspective. The Wrights were
profound and intuitive fliers and builders, just not the first. Let's
celebrate what happened - an exciting and productive event. Even they gave
credit to predecessors. It's in the book.
| and I will be thinking about all of you that are building your own. I
think this |is a international celebration because so many people have
contributed to the |advancement of aviation. If you are not aware the EAA
will have coverage on the internet at www.eaa.org.
| Good flying and building, John, A230
Godspeed, John, and take a few pictures! Credit goes to a
country that provided the freedom and circumstances to permit such events.
Cheers, ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Fitting Stall Stips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Miles McCallum" <milesm@avnet.co.uk>
Stall strips do have one advantage - a physical warning through the stick is
far more effective and reliable at getting the pilot's attention than either
a horn or a light - which is why all large commercial and military aircraft
are fitted with a stick shaker.
M
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> >Does anyone that is flying have any views regarding the fitment of stall
> strips. We were initially advised that these were a bad idea and that an
> electric stall warner was a better option. From what I remember, stall
> strips are supposed to have an adverse effect on the landing
characteristics
> of the aircraft.<
>
> Whilst stall strips improve warning of an impending stall, if fitted in a
> position where they do that job, they can also raise the stall speed (by
> 5kts in some cases) which
> rather negates the benefit. Stall warners do not degrade the aerodynamics
> and can easily be set to give a warning at any desired speed/AOA.
>
> Nigel Charles
>
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| Subject: | Europa Club Website & Mozilla |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Guil Barros <flight@metathusalan.com>
So i just randomly browsed to the europa club website on a friends computer and
discovered that those pluses (+) in the sidebar open additional options :)
It seems that the EuropaClub website doesnt work in non-IE browsers...
unfortunately, i dont get to use IE in my main PC (linux), and i choose not to
on my laptop (mac)...
Please please please fix this... before i cough up the money for a membership,
mention that its VERY bad form to have a community site that doesnt follow
established standards, effectively keeping part of the community from using it.
ok, off my soapbox...
-guil
p.s. sorry about the rant, just had a rather annoying experience with SprintPCS
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