---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/08/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:14 AM - Re: Pitch push rod Electrolysis. (p-a.austin) 2. 02:49 AM - Re: Hose recommendations (Andy Draper) 3. 05:36 AM - Re: Re: Pitch push rod Electrolysis. (Troy Maynor) 4. 07:14 AM - Quinti prop for 912-914 engines (Jim Brown) 5. 07:43 AM - access panel centre consol (ivor.phillips) 6. 01:17 PM - Tri-gear bungee (K.Pilcher) 7. 01:20 PM - Re: access panel centre consol (n3eu@comcast.net) 8. 07:46 PM - Mono-Wheel Retracted Position (DJGeldermann) 9. 10:24 PM - Re: Mono-Wheel Retracted Position (Alan) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:44 AM PST US From: "p-a.austin" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Pitch push rod Electrolysis. --> Europa-List message posted by: "p-a.austin" Troy, Removed the push rod containment lower bulkhead, disconnected the push rod, and slid the rod out through the wheel well, obviously no landing gear in situ. Peter Classic #198 Filling-Sanding-Filling - Sanding - adnauseam > Peter, > How were you able to get the pitch push rod out of the plane? > > Troy Maynor > N120EU Monowheel Classic > Left to finish: > Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. > > > "Electrolysis" > > > > Because of it I had to replace my Pitch Push Rod:- > > > > During assembly of the Rod End Fittings (Steel) to the Push Rod > > (Aluminium) > > I made the mistake of liberally coating the inside of the Push > > Rod tube with > > a water based metal primer paint, I did not allow it to dry before > > assembling and riveting the end fittings in place, thinking this would > > really seal it up, it did!! > > Within 18 months corrosion was evident on the outside of the tube. > Upon removal and cutting open with a hacksaw found severe internal > > corrosion from electrolytical action due to the fact that the paint had never dried. Peter. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:06 AM PST US From: "Andy Draper" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hose recommendations --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Karel, I have replied to you privately, but I believe that we have managed to resolved the confusion that has plagued some of your orders placed since July. I trust that the parts that you asked us to send to a different address reached you safely? Regards Andy >>> "Karel Vranken" 07/01/04 22:16:28 >>> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karel Vranken" Dear Paul and Andy, What is going wrong by Europa Management? I ordered repeatedly the manifold pressure gauge kit since 21th of july with other items. The day after Christmas I received half of the items I ordered except the MPG with a small piece of paper telling me that this item is still to deliver. Let us be honest in business and if you may have a reason please let us know why we have to wait half a year for items you present in your catalogue. Karel Vranken mono # 447 Rotax 912ULS Airmaster CSU; paintings and waiting for finishing. >From: "Andy Draper" >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hose recommendations >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:19:27 +0000 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" > >Dear Paul, > >We have available a Manifold Pressure plumbing kit of parts that includes a >steel bulkhead fitting as well as all of the other parts that are >necessary. Take a look at Tech talk in Newsletter 37 page 13 for an >illustration and description. The price is in the Catalogue. > >Happy New Year >Andy Draper >Technical Director >Europa Aircraft > > >>> "Paul McAllister" 07/01/04 03:39:22 >>> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > >Hi all, > >I need a couple of recommendations: > >What is the best type of hose to use to come from the engine to the >manifold pressure gauge. I need something that can handle the cowl >temperatures. > >How have people been penetrating the firewall with the manifold pressure >hose. I could machine up a fitting but I'd rather not spend a couple of >hours on the lathe if there is a better way. > >I need to fit a 5/8" hose from the vacuum pump to the firewall. I see AC >Spruce have a silicon hose good to 350 degrees but it looks bulky, Id be >interested in knowing what others have used. > >Thanks, Paul > > Je horoscoop al gelezen? http://www.msn.be/horoscoop ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:57 AM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Pitch push rod Electrolysis. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" Thanks. Just Curious, hope it is a non issue but future inspections are definitly important. Troy Maynor N120EU Monowheel Classic Left to finish: Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of p-a.austin > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:13 AM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Pitch push rod Electrolysis. > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "p-a.austin" > > > Troy, > Removed the push rod containment lower bulkhead, disconnected the > push rod, > and slid the rod out through the wheel well, obviously no landing gear in > situ. > > Peter > Classic #198 > Filling-Sanding-Filling - Sanding - adnauseam > > > > Peter, > > How were you able to get the pitch push rod out of the plane? > > > > Troy Maynor > > N120EU Monowheel Classic > > Left to finish: > > Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. > > > > > "Electrolysis" > > > > > > Because of it I had to replace my Pitch Push Rod:- > > > > > > During assembly of the Rod End Fittings (Steel) to the Push Rod > > > (Aluminium) > > > I made the mistake of liberally coating the inside of the Push > > > Rod tube with > > > a water based metal primer paint, I did not allow it to dry before > > > assembling and riveting the end fittings in place, thinking this would > > > really seal it up, it did!! > > > Within 18 months corrosion was evident on the outside of the tube. > > Upon removal and cutting open with a hacksaw found severe internal > > > corrosion from electrolytical action due to the fact that the > paint had > never dried. > > Peter. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:19 AM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Europa-List: Quinti prop for 912-914 engines --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown I have a friend who is the USA distributor for the Quinti line of Electric Constant Speed props. These are comparable to the Airmaster props. He has a canceled order for a 912 complete prop assembly. He says that he will make a good deal if someone is interested. Retail cost is about the same as the Airmaster. Please see his website, or contact me off list. Jim Brown N398JB http://climbandcruise.com/index.html ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:03 AM PST US From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: Europa-List: access panel centre consol --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" Hi guys how much of the centre consol lower fuselage panel can be remove to create a access panel for fuel pumps, wiring ,gascolater etc I assume as the Mono has this removed, then a suitable strengthen panel can be used on a trike, this panel would be in addition to the two circular fuel drain covers, Am i missing something? regards Ivor Phillips XS486 Trike ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:05 PM PST US From: "K.Pilcher" Subject: Europa-List: Tri-gear bungee --> Europa-List message posted by: "K.Pilcher" Hi All, Having run this past the Europa club tri gear mod rep Ian Rickard, it is his opinion that this is what's called an "Un mod" so does not need PFA mod approval. The bungee fitting and re-tightening on the tri-gear (I have a tri classic G-okev ) could possibly be described as a "hernia inducing procedure" So in an effort to make the job simpler without having to remove cowls, exhaust, heat shield, and do away with bungee knots this is what I have done. Cut 4 off lengths of bungee (Europa supplied) 16 inches long and 1off 18 inches. Form each of them into a ring with 2 inches of overlap then fit an 8mm diameter wire rope clamp leaving 1 inch sticking out either side of the U- bolt and be sure to tighten enough to stop slippage. Cut the excess thread off with a hacksaw then gently dome the ends to ensure the nuts never comes off and remove any burrs. To determine the lengths of bungee required I used a test jig made up of my original nose gear, a nose gear mounting frame and a fabricated base plate and sides to hold them all together in position. I then inverted it and loaded 350lb on top where the shimmy damper sits Now to the fitting. At this point you need a 1/2 inch internal diameter hook on one end and a tee handle on the other end of a 1/4 inch dia bar about 10 inches long. I used 1/4 dia threaded bar then after creating the hook filed it smooth. To gain more access and remove any load from the nose gear frame secure the tail of the Europa to the ground and support the front of the plane making it impossible to fall on you. On page 32-11 of the manual regarding safety cable and bungee there is a diagram so I will use it to explain On the port side of the Europa hook 1 of the 16 inch bungee bands over one side of the rear end of the nose gear inside the little end stop plate. With the rope clamp about 1.1/2 inches above the end stop plate to stop it getting in the way, feed both sides of the band up and over the large diameter tube at the back of the nose gear mounting frame creating a loop on top between the smaller diameter tubes welded to it. Feed your brand new hook tool through the loop then pull it down and over the rear end of nose gear inside the little end stop plate placing it next to the first loop. Do the same on the starboard then repeat the process. Finally fit the 18 inch bungee band in a similar way but starting it on the port side and end it on the starboard. No more nodding like an apologetic Chinaman. Regards Kevin. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:28 PM PST US From: n3eu@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: access panel centre consol --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net ivor.phillips wrote: > Hi guys how much of the centre consol lower fuselage panel can be remove > to create a access panel for fuel pumps, wiring, gascolater, etc. > > I assume as the Mono has this removed, then a suitable strengthen panel > can be used on a trike, this panel would be in addition to the two > circular fuel drain covers, > > Am i missing something? I think it's somewhat moot as to how much material can be removed, since leaving maximum "floor space" is handy to neatly route and mount things. My access panel is 8" x 10.5", just about enough for easy access. It's also sufficient ground plane - with foil backing - for mounting a wire-type transponder antenna. I have therein the 2 fuel pumps and filters, 2 alternator regulators and big capacitor, a fuel sump in lieu of a gascolator, and the starter relay (have baggage-bay mounted batteries). Regards, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:30 PM PST US From: "DJGeldermann" Subject: Europa-List: Mono-Wheel Retracted Position --> Europa-List message posted by: "DJGeldermann" Fellow Europians, Any inputs would be appreciated on what I figure is a simple question that I'm wondering about. I'm installing and adjusting the main gear up travel on my XS mono-wheel. I'm wondering if the fully retracted main gear position is with the LG02 wheel frame fairly flush with the bottom of the fuselage, or with the main tire raised as far as it can go before interfering with the brake mechanism -while still being able to come up slightly to clear the lever guide when putting it back down? I haven't come across anything more detailed than the term "fully retracted" in the manual. Thanks in advance, Dan Geldermann A-139 XS Mono-Wheel ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:33 PM PST US From: "Alan" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono-Wheel Retracted Position --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan" I've just installed mine so it is flush with th bottom of the fuselage. It could go slightly higher but without guidence in the manual figured flush surface would produce les air turbulance and also there is the limitation of the instrument panel on the forward movement of the leaver for unlocking. Alan #303 ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJGeldermann" Subject: Europa-List: Mono-Wheel Retracted Position > --> Europa-List message posted by: "DJGeldermann" > > > Fellow Europians, > Any inputs would be appreciated on what I figure is a simple question that > I'm wondering about. I'm installing and adjusting the main gear up travel > on my XS mono-wheel. I'm wondering if the fully retracted main gear > position is with the LG02 wheel frame fairly flush with the bottom of the > fuselage, or with the main tire raised as far as it can go before > interfering with the brake mechanism -while still being able to come up > slightly to clear the lever guide when putting it back down? I haven't come > across anything more detailed than the term "fully retracted" in the manual. > Thanks in advance, > Dan Geldermann > A-139 > XS Mono-Wheel > >