Europa-List Digest Archive

Wed 01/14/04


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:39 AM - Re: Today's Pilot magazine (UK) (R.C.Harrison)
     2. 04:18 AM - Re: Baggage Bay Questions (Neville Eyre)
     3. 05:49 AM - Re: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing (rlborger)
     4. 05:56 AM - Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly-in (RMRRick@aol.com)
     5. 06:20 AM - Re: Baggage Bay Questions (Paul Mansfield)
     6. 06:35 AM - Baggage Bay Questions (Graham Singleton)
     7. 12:33 PM - Re: Baggage Bay Questions (Paul Stewart)
     8. 02:07 PM - Through the Firewall (owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com)
     9. 02:58 PM - Aluminum Fuel Intake Pipe (Timothy.P.Ward)
    10. 03:48 PM - Re: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing (rlborger)
    11. 05:48 PM - Re: Source for pressure transducers (Europa Aircraft)
    12. 06:35 PM - Re: Baggage Bay Questions ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:39:18 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Today's Pilot magazine (UK)
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Ira. I have already forwarded the request from Garry to Stephen Bridgewater the Author of the item concerned His e-mail address is:- stephen.bridgewater@keypublishing.com Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Today's Pilot magazine (UK) > --> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu > > A little followup for our US bretheren. I just checked our > local Borders and they still have January on the shelf. > Could one of our UK colleagues spill the beans and give us > a synopsis? > > Ira N224XS


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    Time: 04:18:35 AM PST US
    From: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
    Subject: Re: Baggage Bay Questions
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com> Hi Mike, The baggage bay floor sits 3/4'' [19mm] above the tailplane pushrod, at the same angle, put a piece of scrap timber that thick on top of the pushrod, and trim the outer edge of the floor, and the rear bulkhead so there is no pressure on to the inside of the fuselage. Then bond in with Redux under the overlapping flange to the lower bulkhead, and 2 ply Bid from the panel to the fuselage, [ both sides of the upper ''D'' shape bulkhead.] Cheers, Nev. >>> <DuaneFamly@aol.com> 01/14/04 02:41am >>> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good Day All, I am putting in the baggage bay and have a couple of quick questions for those that have gone before. 1) Is the baggage bay supposed to be jammed into the bottom of the canoe? Or is it supposed to have the edges sanded down until it just fits the proper place in the canoe? As it is, it seems to push the sides out a little too much for my senses. 2) Is the floor of the baggage bay supposed to be level with the door sill or tilted up in the back so it is level with the bottom skin? Thanks in advance for the knowledge that will calm the nerves. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear CM, landing gear frame, & rudder pedals with cables installed. Working on baggage bay.


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    Time: 05:49:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Guys, I ordered a number of the new sub-kits from John in Lakeland back when they first were announced. When was that? March, April, May last year? Whenever... After checking with John back mid-year he said that the demand for the sub-kits had been WAY beyond the companies expectations and they were trying to get tooled up meet the demand. In any case, John called me two weeks ago to say most of it had arrived and would be shipped soon. He called again last week to get my CC info and said that it would ship that day. Still waiting to see it. I'll let the list know when it arrives and which bits arrive. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (40%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, working in the tail end. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 05:56:58 AM PST US
    From: RMRRick@aol.com
    Subject: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly-in
    --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com Hi all For those adventurous souls up for a trip this week Friday seems to be the only reasonable day. 11:30 to 12:00 am 'ish in the restaurant but I'll update tomorrow evening after a look at the latest weather. Regards Rick


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    Time: 06:20:33 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Mansfield" <m@nsfield.screaming.net>
    Subject: Baggage Bay Questions
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Mansfield" <m@nsfield.screaming.net> Does any Bid get laid up from the horizontal floor to the fuselage sides? P.28-11 just says "Also layup 2 plies of 'bid' each side of the join between the fuselage and the rear baggage bay bulkhead, lapping them onto each by 25mm (1")." Not sure if that includes the horizontal portion... Thx Paul 383 Mono XS CM in, working on bottom(!) -----Original Message----- From: Neville Eyre Subject: Re: Europa-List: Baggage Bay Questions Hi Mike, The baggage bay floor sits 3/4'' [19mm] above the tailplane pushrod, at the same angle, put a piece of scrap timber that thick on top of the pushrod, and trim the outer edge of the floor, and the rear bulkhead so there is no pressure on to the inside of the fuselage. Then bond in with Redux under the overlapping flange to the lower bulkhead, and 2 ply Bid from the panel to the fuselage, [ both sides of the upper ''D'' shape bulkhead.] Cheers, Nev.


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    Time: 06:35:35 AM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Baggage Bay Questions
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> At 23:56 13/01/2004 -0800, you wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> >Mike >I fit mine so it "looked good". The floor is nearly level and I did trim off >the edges to get it to NOT flare out the sides. > >Remember; when you do go to bond it in, the "D" bulkhead is to get two >layers of BID on both the front and back sides. ( I hated the back side job) > >Cliff Shaw That job is much easier if you turn the fuselage on its side (or even back) using Chuck Pop's cradle of course. That neat idea really improved the quality of life for Europa builders {!:-) Graham ---


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    Time: 12:33:25 PM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: Re: Baggage Bay Questions
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Paul We were told all round - including the horizontal bit. I think I asked Andy or Nevill the same question. Regards Paul Stewart Paul Mansfield wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul Mansfield" <m@nsfield.screaming.net> > >Does any Bid get laid up from the horizontal floor to the fuselage sides? > >P.28-11 just says "Also layup 2 plies of 'bid' each side of the join between >the fuselage and the rear baggage bay bulkhead, lapping them onto each by >25mm (1")." > >Not sure if that includes the horizontal portion... > >Thx > >Paul 383 Mono XS >CM in, working on bottom(!) > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Neville Eyre >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Baggage Bay Questions > >Hi Mike, >The baggage bay floor sits 3/4'' [19mm] above the tailplane pushrod, at the >same angle, put a piece of scrap timber that thick on top of the pushrod, >and trim the outer edge of the floor, and the rear bulkhead so there is no >pressure on to the inside of the fuselage. Then bond in with Redux under the >overlapping flange to the lower bulkhead, and 2 ply Bid from the panel to >the fuselage, [ both sides of the upper ''D'' shape bulkhead.] Cheers, Nev. > > > >


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    Time: 02:07:34 PM PST US
    From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
    Subject: Through the Firewall
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Hi all. I have just finished mounting the TCU for the 914 - and would like to inform about my proceedings - after advice from Neville. The build manual does not mention anything (strangely enough) about how to penetrate the firewall for these units (TCU/turbo control unit). According to Nev., any hole should be made with round corners - (preferably round holes), and the area on the rear side of the firewall should be strengthened to restablish the strength taken away by cutting the hole. He suggested a stainless steel ring - 1.5 mm thick/25 mm wide - on which anchor nuts are installed, and fastened with 525 screws/Araldite 420. The hole should be cut as far away from the landing gear frame as possible - and not in the center. I made up my cover plate from firewall cut-off and bolted it together with the steel-ring to the firewall edge - using Araldite 420. Looks very solid! Cheers, Hans, hansjd@online.no .Kit 334, engine hooked up/electrics, prop, finishing, interior to go, ++ !


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    Time: 02:58:57 PM PST US
    From: "Timothy.P.Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Aluminum Fuel Intake Pipe
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Timothy.P.Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Europa Builders, I will be off to the USA shortly.If any builder requires an Aluminum Fuel Intake Pipe, as seen on the PhotoShare web site below,(under Timothy Ward--Europa) then let me know. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street Fendalton Christchurch. Ph. 0064 33515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz


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    Time: 03:48:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com> Gents, A note, as promised, to let the group know that some of my order from early last year has arrived. I received my headphone jack panel and the pitot/static plumbing kit this afternoon. I also received an e-mail saying that another package had shipped from Eruopa, Lakeland this afternoon. Maybe this is the MP gage plumbing and/or the roof panel. Good building and happy flying to all, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S (40%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, working in the tail end. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 05:48:47 PM PST US
    From: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
    Subject: Source for pressure transducers
    tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net> Hi All, I have tested a single differential pressure sender on 914EA with great success. We are having them custom made, and are being promised units in 1 month. The cost will be about $110 each for the senders. We will also have a 1 1/4, and 2 1/4 gauge to go with the sender. If anyone wants to pre-order these give me a call in the Lakeland office. Happy Building! John Hurst Europa Aircraft Lakeland, FL -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Subject: Europa-List: Source for pressure transducers --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I might do some experimenting I the near future to see if I can measure the fuel pressure on a 914. The idea was to have two transducers, one the air-box and the other on the fuel line and measure the difference. I am looking for a source of transducers, one of them will have to be fuel resistant, and I would prefer them to have a 1/8" thread. Does anyone has a web link(s) so I can go check out what is available. Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 06:35:36 PM PST US
    From: <beecho@beecho.org>
    Subject: Baggage Bay Questions
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org> "[ both sides of the upper ''D'' shape bulkhead." Hmm, yes, I think I will do that although my manual with any revisions that I have found did NOT say do both sides of the D bulkhead. The language was somewhat confusing but it definitely did not say both sides. I elected to do the aft side which was difficult and I suspect not particularly strong, so I will scrape off the finish, bond the front side, and then repaint. Grr. Tom Friedland A079 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Neville Eyre Subject: Re: Europa-List: Baggage Bay Questions --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com> Hi Mike, The baggage bay floor sits 3/4'' [19mm] above the tailplane pushrod, at the same angle, put a piece of scrap timber that thick on top of the pushrod, and trim the outer edge of the floor, and the rear bulkhead so there is no pressure on to the inside of the fuselage. Then bond in with Redux under the overlapping flange to the lower bulkhead, and 2 ply Bid from the panel to the fuselage, [ both sides of the upper ''D'' shape bulkhead.] Cheers, Nev. >>> <DuaneFamly@aol.com> 01/14/04 02:41am >>> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com Good Day All, I am putting in the baggage bay and have a couple of quick questions for those that have gone before. 1) Is the baggage bay supposed to be jammed into the bottom of the canoe? Or is it supposed to have the edges sanded down until it just fits the proper place in the canoe? As it is, it seems to push the sides out a little too much for my senses. 2) Is the floor of the baggage bay supposed to be level with the door sill or tilted up in the back so it is level with the bottom skin? Thanks in advance for the knowledge that will calm the nerves. Mike Duane A207 Redding, California XS Conventional Gear CM, landing gear frame, & rudder pedals with cables installed. Working on baggage bay. == == == ==




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