Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:14 AM - Andair responded (p-a.austin)
2. 06:31 AM - Re: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing (Karel Vranken)
3. 06:31 AM - Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In - Friday 16th (RMRRick@aol.com)
4. 11:44 AM - Re: Safe Heating Sources. (Mike Parkin)
5. 02:40 PM - Re: Safe Heating Sources. (Rob Housman)
6. 03:55 PM - Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (Pete Lawless)
7. 06:26 PM - Baggage Bay splash? (ScramIt@aol.com)
8. 06:34 PM - Length of Dipole Antenna (Tony Renshaw)
9. 06:43 PM - Re: Baggage Bay splash? (Cliff Shaw)
10. 07:08 PM - Electric flap servo? (ScramIt@aol.com)
11. 07:20 PM - Re: Electric flap servo? (Cliff Shaw)
12. 08:56 PM - Re: Baggage Bay splash? (Steve Hagar)
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| Subject: | Andair responded |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "p-a.austin" <p-a.austin@xtra.co.nz>
Hello team,
Ordering another part seems the way to solicit a response. I attach the
reply I received from Andair.
Regards Peter
#198 Classic
Peter,
Thank you for your on-line order. May I also apologise for the delay in
getting back to you concerning your e-mail of 2nd Dec 03.
I am sorry to hear that the plate was damaged, I will manufacture
another one and send it with the UJ, with some roll pins.
I an sorry for the inconvenience cause I will rectify our system so this
does not happen in future. I have also informed our shipping department to
wrap items more carefully.
Kind regards
Owen Phillips
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| Subject: | Manifold pressure gauge plumbing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Karel Vranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
Paul,
Today I received also my MPG ordered since july. At last a big problem
solved. Thanks to you and the forum they got awaken.
Karel Vranken.
>From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Manifold pressure gauge plumbing
>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:02:57 -0600
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
><paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
>Hi all,
>
>I just received the kit from Europa today to connect up my manifold
>pressure gauge. I have just finished connecting it up and I must say for
>those who have a need to penetrate the firewall this is the way to do it.
>The kit had everything needed, it was quick to install and looks pretty
>neat.
>
>Paul
>
>
Hotmail: je gratis e-mail ! http://www.msn.be/hotmail
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| Subject: | Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In - Friday 16th |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hi All
Weather looks OK for tomorrow (Friday) lunch time 11:30 or 12 ish.
Thruxton request PPR on 01264 772352. The chef at the Jackaroo cafe is
apparently not to well so lunch may not be possible.
Remember Boscombe MATZ on 126.70. Thruxton (EGHO) A/G 130.45. Free Landing
Fee Voucher page 93 of January Pilot.
All the best
Rick
G-RIKS
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| Subject: | Re: Safe Heating Sources. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
"Before doing this I queried the factory about how it might affect
engine cooling, and as I expected, there is no reason for concern."
I hope you are right.
By your description, it sounds like you have a 914 engine. I have just
finished doing a similar mod on my 914 monowheel. The major difference is
that I made the flap behind the coolers adjustable with a bowden cable. In
summer the 'air scoop' can be retracted completely so that is does not
interfere with the airflow.
Last summer in Europe we had unusually high temperatures mid to high 30s C
and I found that keeping the engine temperatures under control was very
speed dependant - a climb speed in excess of 100kts was necessary to keep
the temps down. In the cruise there was no problem at all, and in winter it
is hard to get the temps up at all.
I have not flown with the heater mod yet as I am waiting for the PFA to
approve the installation. However, it looks promising during the post
annual servicing engine run - I could feel some warm air coming through.
Incidentally, I have lowered the oil cooler as suggested in the engine
installation manual - again, I have yet to fly the aircraft to see how
effective the change is.
Living in California, with your weather factor, you might at least want to
have the lowered oil cooler.
Having said all that, some people have had cooling problems and others have
not.
regards,
Mike
Europa XS Monowheel G-JULZ. Flying for a year now.
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| Subject: | Safe Heating Sources. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
Right you are. It's a 914, and the coolers are staggered so each gets cool
air (I wonder what the folks at Europa were thinking when they devised the
original arrangement).
My original plan was the same, make the flap move to snag hot air or not,
but it seemed that the mechanical linkage to close the flap against the
force of the air flow would be needlessly complex. I briefly considered
that the flap might obstruct cooling air flow but I made an assumption that
the factory did NOT design the cooling duct to provide barely sufficient air
flow, but instead that there was more than enough air flow. Ergo, a postage
stamp sized obstacle would not make any difference in engine cooling.
What you folks call a heat wave, we call summer.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safe Heating Sources.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin"
<mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
"Before doing this I queried the factory about how it might affect
engine cooling, and as I expected, there is no reason for concern."
I hope you are right.
By your description, it sounds like you have a 914 engine. I have just
finished doing a similar mod on my 914 monowheel. The major difference is
that I made the flap behind the coolers adjustable with a bowden cable. In
summer the 'air scoop' can be retracted completely so that is does not
interfere with the airflow.
Last summer in Europe we had unusually high temperatures mid to high 30s C
and I found that keeping the engine temperatures under control was very
speed dependant - a climb speed in excess of 100kts was necessary to keep
the temps down. In the cruise there was no problem at all, and in winter it
is hard to get the temps up at all.
I have not flown with the heater mod yet as I am waiting for the PFA to
approve the installation. However, it looks promising during the post
annual servicing engine run - I could feel some warm air coming through.
Incidentally, I have lowered the oil cooler as suggested in the engine
installation manual - again, I have yet to fly the aircraft to see how
effective the change is.
Living in California, with your weather factor, you might at least want to
have the lowered oil cooler.
Having said all that, some people have had cooling problems and others have
not.
regards,
Mike
Europa XS Monowheel G-JULZ. Flying for a year now.
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| Subject: | Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Evening All
Does any one know where I can get the prop/spinner dynamically balanced?
The only source we know appears to charge around 350 for the service.
Based at Kemble but can travel.
Thanks
Pete
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| Subject: | Baggage Bay splash? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
I'm looking at my baggage with the top off. Everyone says that the lay-ups on
the D are a pain. Can I splash flange the D shape and redux it in when the
top goes on? Then I don't have to climb back there at all. Haven't been back
there yet and I'd like to keep it that way.
SteveD.
A217
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| Subject: | Length of Dipole Antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am about to install my Europa dipole antenna to the back of my sternpost,
and have a couple of questions regarding ideal length etc of each portion
of antenna. Annex C at the end of the manaul outlines to make each portion
515 mm initially in length. The dimension in the schematic uses the
dimension of 490*mm, so it is obvious to me there is a point somewhere
within this range that is what I am after. Does anyone else have a more
refined starting point?
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
Classic 236 Taildragger (possibly convertible)
Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
Intended Engine: 912S or a "turboed single rotor rotary, when I am dreaming"
Instrumentation: Undecided
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| Subject: | Re: Baggage Bay splash? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Steve
My D bulkhead fit in kind of funny. That is, It got bonded in place where
it fit best. I don't think you will be able to make a splash that will fit
tight enough to the fuselage and to the D bulkhead. I did not consider
doing it that way at the time, so don't know if I would have tried to do it
that way.
I did find a way to work through the D bulkhead more easily though. It was
simple. I just blocked up with plastic buckets to the height of the cut-out
and laid a piece of plywood through and then laid on it . Across the top of
the fuel tank between the headrests and the buckets. It is a little tricky
getting in and out, but I have used it sever time. ( Try adding the electric
flap servo after the baggage bay is installed!!!!!)
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
>
> I'm looking at my baggage with the top off. Everyone says that the lay-ups
on
> the D are a pain. Can I splash flange the D shape and redux it in when the
> top goes on? Then I don't have to climb back there at all. Haven't been
back
> there yet and I'd like to keep it that way.
>
> SteveD.
> A217
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| Subject: | Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
In a message dated 1/15/04 9:43:49 PM, flyinggpa@comcast.net writes:
> ( Try adding the electric flap servo after the baggage bay is
> installed!!!!!)
>
I asked if I could add the electric flap servo with a mono wheel and was told
no. I never like the idea of full flaps every time, but loved the design so
much I still went with the Europa.
So, you can add the servo?
SteveD.
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| Subject: | Re: Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Steve
To clarify: I am converting my mono to a trike. The factory kit uses an
electric flap servo.
In thinking about what you said, I think your Europa would be a complex
plane. That would require you to get an endorsement. We don't have to now
because the landing gear and flaps are connected together. If you separate
them, your get "complex", as I understand it. That said, yes it could be
done easily!
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds WA 98020
(425) 776-5555
N229WC "Wile E Coyote"
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| Subject: | Baggage Bay splash? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Steve:
I didn't make an entire splash moulding as I could see that the profile I
had of the top of the baggage bay was not an exact fit. What I did before
I put the top on was to mark where the top of the bay would go along the
edge. Then I made several fiberglass angles and bonded them to the top of
the fuselage to match up with the backside of the top of the baggage bay.
That way I had something to push against when laying up the front side of
the mount. After the front had cured I went to the backside with short
layups to go around the backside of the D shape. It wasn't as big a hassle
as puts it to be.
Steve Hagar
A143 Mesa, AZ
> [Original Message]
> From: <ScramIt@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/15/04 2:25:18 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Baggage Bay splash?
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
>
> I'm looking at my baggage with the top off. Everyone says that the
lay-ups on
> the D are a pain. Can I splash flange the D shape and redux it in when
the
> top goes on? Then I don't have to climb back there at all. Haven't been
back
> there yet and I'd like to keep it that way.
>
> SteveD.
> A217
>
>
>
>
>
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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