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1. 01:12 AM - Kim Prout`s email address (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?=)
2. 01:58 AM - Length of Dipole Antenna (Graham Singleton)
3. 01:58 AM - Electric flap servo? (Graham Singleton)
4. 02:16 AM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (Ami McFadyean)
5. 02:20 AM - Re: Electric flap servo? (Ami McFadyean)
6. 02:23 AM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (Ami McFadyean)
7. 03:18 AM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (R.C.Harrison)
8. 03:34 AM - Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (nigel charles)
9. 03:46 AM - Re: Electric flap servo? (Kingsley Hurst)
10. 08:01 AM - Re: Kim Prout`s email address (Kevin Klinefelter)
11. 09:44 AM - Re: Electric flap servo? (Ami McFadyean)
12. 10:33 AM - Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (Ami McFadyean)
13. 11:23 AM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (Ami McFadyean)
14. 11:47 AM - Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (Rowland Carson)
15. 11:51 AM - Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (RMRRick@aol.com)
16. 12:33 PM - Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) (Ami McFadyean)
17. 12:48 PM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (William Mills)
18. 01:49 PM - (no subject) (RMRRick@aol.com)
19. 02:24 PM - Ted Gladstone e-mail ?????? (Tony Renshaw)
20. 02:53 PM - Re: Kim Prout`s email address ()
21. 04:45 PM - Re: Length of Dipole Antenna (n3eu@comcast.net)
22. 11:09 PM - Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In (William Mills)
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| Subject: | Kim Prout`s email address |
--> Europa-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?= <standa.svec@volny.cz>
Please, does anybody know, what`s happened with Kim Prout`s email address? I communicated
with him in last year through kpav@uia.net and now I get my emails
back with message: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
kpav@uia.net (reason: 550 5.1.1 <kpav@uia.net>... User unknown).
Thanks very much for infos.
Stanislav, #438
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| Subject: | Length of Dipole Antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 16/01/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Length of Dipole Antenna
>From: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
>Tony,
> Get with one of the local ham radio operators that has a GOOD SWR
>meter. Us it to "tune" the lengths to give you the best (lowest swr)
>reflective power over the aircraft band. I have a very nice curve which
>bottoms out about mid range.
Its best done with any nearby metalwork in place, ie elevator push rod and
other hardware. rudder pushrod too. They will have an effect
Graham
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| Subject: | Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 16/01/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Electric flap servo?
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
><ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>Landings are fine if you can get the flaps down far enough. I find that the
>27.5 degrees available with the electric flaps is not enough for an other
>than flat-profiled landing.
>
>I don't see why it can't be made more.
It was tried but Ivan found that the aircraft would take off before aileron
control was available, (too slow) that was dangerous.
Graham
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Tatenhill ( a bit local for me) or Barton is OK with me. Lands End too if
the general consensus favours that; but it is a bit far for a winter's day.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
>
> Hi Rick and All,
> Sorry no one else was able to make it to Thruxton; I suspect the forecast
> put some off, which turned out much better than predicted, at least it was
> in South Wales. As I was unavailable to fly yesterday and the weather
looks
> good for Sunday, I thought I might try Lands End, which has a voucher in
> "Pilot". I'm sure Duncan might like to have a go, because it is not much
> further than Bodmin? Next week we could visit Manchester Barton EGCB, or
> Tatenhill (both in "Pilot"). Does any one have a preference? If
weekenders
> would prefer to do either of the latter two venues on Sunday, rather than
> Lands End, which is a bit remote for some, please let us know, as I am
> willing to follow suit. Please reply on the forum and we can suit the
> majority.
> Best wishes,
> William
> (Do not archive)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RMRRick@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Well, G-RIKS and I had a great trip to Thruxton today. Slightly
blustery
> but
> > the chef produced great bacon butties.
> >
> > Perhaps someone else has ideas for next week?
> >
> > All the best.
> >
> >
> > Rick Morris
> > G-RIKS trike
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Agreed. Although with electric flaps there is no need to take off with full
flap and therefore more flap for landing should feasible. As you'll know,
the matter was written up in an early Factory Newsletter.
From memory, the optimum for landing was in excess of 30 degrees; less than
that and there was not a large amount of additional drag. Which is the
problem I have.
Duncan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Singleton" <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: Electric flap servo?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
<graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
>
> At 23:56 16/01/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> >Electric flap servo?
> >
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
> ><ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
> >
> >Landings are fine if you can get the flaps down far enough. I find that
the
> >27.5 degrees available with the electric flaps is not enough for an other
> >than flat-profiled landing.
> >
> >I don't see why it can't be made more.
>
> It was tried but Ivan found that the aircraft would take off before
aileron
> control was available, (too slow) that was dangerous.
> Graham
>
>
> ---
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Actually, tomorrow's forecast would provide a tailwind there and a tailwind
back (to Lands End)!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
>
> Hi Rick and All,
> Sorry no one else was able to make it to Thruxton; I suspect the forecast
> put some off, which turned out much better than predicted, at least it was
> in South Wales. As I was unavailable to fly yesterday and the weather
looks
> good for Sunday, I thought I might try Lands End, which has a voucher in
> "Pilot". I'm sure Duncan might like to have a go, because it is not much
> further than Bodmin? Next week we could visit Manchester Barton EGCB, or
> Tatenhill (both in "Pilot"). Does any one have a preference? If
weekenders
> would prefer to do either of the latter two venues on Sunday, rather than
> Lands End, which is a bit remote for some, please let us know, as I am
> willing to follow suit. Please reply on the forum and we can suit the
> majority.
> Best wishes,
> William
> (Do not archive)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RMRRick@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Well, G-RIKS and I had a great trip to Thruxton today. Slightly
blustery
> but
> > the chef produced great bacon butties.
> >
> > Perhaps someone else has ideas for next week?
> >
> > All the best.
> >
> >
> > Rick Morris
> > G-RIKS trike
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! William/Rick/Duncan
Regretfully I won't be using Manchester Barton again. far too bumpy and
loose material is rutted when I was last there about 4 months ago and winter
in Manchester won't have improved it since then.They do make you welcome
though and would be quick to salvage the pieces!
If my bird is still not grounded yet I wouldn't mind Tattenhill
Sorry I've not been into the "Saga Sarga's " lately but not felt up to it,
and Friday was a "no go" from here.Sorry about that Rick.
I would like to get to Bembridge before my Son leaves his contract at Sea
View on the 13th Feb. however !
I'm doing a couple of "flight experiences" tomorrow(Sunday ) and may make
Sheffield a target!
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
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| Subject: | Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>Does any one know where I can get the prop/spinner dynamically balanced?
The only source we know appears to charge around 350 for the service.
Based at Kemble but can travel.<
Arrow Aviation (near Exeter) did mine for about 170. Although this is not
cheap it is far cheaper than the other (Midlands based) company who wanted
about 295. If you fly down to Exeter they can meet you at an engineering
base on the north side who can get you a reduction on the landing fee. They
can be contacted on 01884 855327. Mentioning the Europa Club should ensure
you get a discount.
It might be worth the club purchasing the equipment if the cost is no more
than 1500. We would need to look into the expertise required in using the
equipment and ensure we have the necessary fittings for mounting the sensors
for the range of engines used. As the capital cost is significant a rental
charge would need to be made so that most of the investment was recovered.
This subject has come up once before at club committee meetings. If there is
enough interest I will bring it up again at the next meeting.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Duncan McFadyean wrote:-
> From memory, the optimum for landing was in excess of 30 degrees; less
than
> that and there was not a large amount of additional drag. Which is the
> problem I have.
Duncan,
Interested to know if you have a CS propeller. Understand the CS prop makes
for more drag and steeper approaches than a fixed pitch.
Regards
Kingsley Hurst in Oz
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| Subject: | Kim Prout`s email address |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
I believe this is his current address. kpaviat@verizon.net
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stanislav vec
Subject: Europa-List: Kim Prout`s email address
--> Europa-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?<standa.svec@volny.cz>
Please, does anybody know, what`s happened with Kim Prout`s email address? I
communicated with him in last year through kpav@uia.net and now I get my
emails back with message: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal
errors ----- kpav@uia.net (reason: 550 5.1.1 <kpav@uia.net>... User
unknown).
Thanks very much for infos.
Stanislav, #438
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| Subject: | Re: Electric flap servo? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I have a fixed pitch 64" WD set at 20.5 degrees. The idle is set to 1400rpm,
but by pulling back hard against the closed-stop this can be reduced to
1200. All this helps, but not enough.
Having said that, the take-off distance is well balanced with the landing
distance.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Electric flap servo?
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst"
<hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
>
> Duncan McFadyean wrote:-
> > From memory, the optimum for landing was in excess of 30 degrees; less
> than
> > that and there was not a large amount of additional drag. Which is the
> > problem I have.
>
> Duncan,
>
> Interested to know if you have a CS propeller. Understand the CS prop
makes
> for more drag and steeper approaches than a fixed pitch.
>
> Regards
> Kingsley Hurst in Oz
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
See:
http://www.dssmicro.com/products/dsmbal.htm
Which will do dynamic prop balance, but without the bells and whistles of
the more expensive systems (that will tell if your camshaft is shot etc).
The one shown here costs about 2500 USD (L1500).
If the Club gets one I'll offer to write a manual to accompany its use for
912 's. But it really is straightforward.
Duncna mcF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dynamic balancing? (UK only)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles"
<nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> >Does any one know where I can get the prop/spinner dynamically balanced?
> The only source we know appears to charge around 350 for the service.
> Based at Kemble but can travel.<
>
> Arrow Aviation (near Exeter) did mine for about 170. Although this is not
> cheap it is far cheaper than the other (Midlands based) company who wanted
> about 295. If you fly down to Exeter they can meet you at an engineering
> base on the north side who can get you a reduction on the landing fee.
They
> can be contacted on 01884 855327. Mentioning the Europa Club should ensure
> you get a discount.
>
> It might be worth the club purchasing the equipment if the cost is no more
> than 1500. We would need to look into the expertise required in using the
> equipment and ensure we have the necessary fittings for mounting the
sensors
> for the range of engines used. As the capital cost is significant a rental
> charge would need to be made so that most of the investment was recovered.
> This subject has come up once before at club committee meetings. If there
is
> enough interest I will bring it up again at the next meeting.
>
> Nigel Charles
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
As Lands End is a bit far, dare I suggest..........Thruxton?!
Forecast looks better for tomorrow that it did for Friday.
Duncan McF
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
<combined.merchants@virgin.net>
>
> Hi Rick and All,
> Sorry no one else was able to make it to Thruxton; I suspect the forecast
> put some off, which turned out much better than predicted, at least it was
> in South Wales. As I was unavailable to fly yesterday and the weather
looks
> good for Sunday, I thought I might try Lands End, which has a voucher in
> "Pilot". I'm sure Duncan might like to have a go, because it is not much
> further than Bodmin? Next week we could visit Manchester Barton EGCB, or
> Tatenhill (both in "Pilot"). Does any one have a preference? If
weekenders
> would prefer to do either of the latter two venues on Sunday, rather than
> Lands End, which is a bit remote for some, please let us know, as I am
> willing to follow suit. Please reply on the forum and we can suit the
> majority.
> Best wishes,
> William
> (Do not archive)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <RMRRick@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > Well, G-RIKS and I had a great trip to Thruxton today. Slightly
blustery
> but
> > the chef produced great bacon butties.
> >
> > Perhaps someone else has ideas for next week?
> >
> > All the best.
> >
> >
> > Rick Morris
> > G-RIKS trike
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004 01 16 21:42 +0000 Ami McFadyean wrote:
>Sounds like a good case for convincing the Club to shell out on a dynamic
>balancer. They're about 1500
I guess there might well be enough Europa people in UK (and even near
continent) to make that workable; but how do we explain to the
overseas members of The Europa Club that we've spent a significant
proportion of their subs on a bit of kit they're very unlikely to
benefit from?
I've no idea how big/heavy the thing is, but I can't imagine that
posting it to US or Australian members would be practical.
At 50 per go we'd have to hire it out 30 times to recoup the captial
outlay. For comparison, the VSWR meter has been out 19 times since
November 2000 and the Carb balancer 9 times since December 2002. The
capital outlay on those was of course much smaller, and no charge is
imposed for loan of either.
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hello Nigel
I have had my prop (CS pv50) balanced several times at Cambridge and am
pretty unimpressed. I think this has to do with technique and operator knowledge
as well as the need for either nil wind or the ability to start the engine in
the hanger.
Incidentally the biggest difference I have seen is balancing the spinner with
the water bowl method. I'd certainly hire a balancer.
Regards
Rick
G-RIKS
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| Subject: | Re: Dynamic balancing? (UK only) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Can't answer for the Club's moral conscience.
Depends what overseas members get anyway. And why stunt growth of the
utility of the Club by such a principle, which I think has been discussed
before. Presumably as overseas clusters reach a certain critical mass then
similar facilities would be offered from the locality of these.
Anyway, its a mute point if the cost of the device is amortised over a
certain period from hire charges, beyond which UK members would then be
contributing further to Club funds.
As regards rate of loan of other equipment, carb. balancers are available on
pretty much every high street. Less so VSWR meters, which are far more
common than vibration analysers. Thus, a crude extrapolation of your
statistics on a "scarcity" versus "take-up" basis would suggest that 30
would be reached.
That said, there are comparable devices in the pipeline that might be
available later in the year at much lower cost.
Duncan McF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dynamic balancing? (UK only)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2004 01 16 21:42 +0000 Ami McFadyean wrote:
>
> >Sounds like a good case for convincing the Club to shell out on a dynamic
> >balancer. They're about 1500
>
> I guess there might well be enough Europa people in UK (and even near
> continent) to make that workable; but how do we explain to the
> overseas members of The Europa Club that we've spent a significant
> proportion of their subs on a bit of kit they're very unlikely to
> benefit from?
>
> I've no idea how big/heavy the thing is, but I can't imagine that
> posting it to US or Australian members would be practical.
>
> At 50 per go we'd have to hire it out 30 times to recoup the captial
> outlay. For comparison, the VSWR meter has been out 19 times since
> November 2000 and the Carb balancer 9 times since December 2002. The
> capital outlay on those was of course much smaller, and no charge is
> imposed for loan of either.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
I am easy, Thruxton if you like, but there is a front coming down from the
north tomorrow. As usual it all depends on timing. Perhaps we should go
north towards the front so that we don't get cut off if it advances too
quickly. If Barton is rough with lose material, we could choose Tatenhill.
What do others think or should we get an update on the weather tomorrow
morning?
William
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> As Lands End is a bit far, dare I suggest..........Thruxton?!
> Forecast looks better for tomorrow that it did for Friday.
>
> Duncan McF
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
> <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
> >
> > Hi Rick and All,
> > Sorry no one else was able to make it to Thruxton; I suspect the
forecast
> > put some off, which turned out much better than predicted, at least it
was
> > in South Wales. As I was unavailable to fly yesterday and the weather
> looks
> > good for Sunday, I thought I might try Lands End, which has a voucher in
> > "Pilot". I'm sure Duncan might like to have a go, because it is not
much
> > further than Bodmin? Next week we could visit Manchester Barton EGCB,
or
> > Tatenhill (both in "Pilot"). Does any one have a preference? If
> weekenders
> > would prefer to do either of the latter two venues on Sunday, rather
than
> > Lands End, which is a bit remote for some, please let us know, as I am
> > willing to follow suit. Please reply on the forum and we can suit the
> > majority.
> > Best wishes,
> > William
> > (Do not archive)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <RMRRick@aol.com>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: Europa-List: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
> > >
> > > Hi All
> > >
> > > Well, G-RIKS and I had a great trip to Thruxton today. Slightly
> blustery
> > but
> > > the chef produced great bacon butties.
> > >
> > > Perhaps someone else has ideas for next week?
> > >
> > > All the best.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Morris
> > > G-RIKS trike
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hi all
A few of us are off to Thruxton for 12 ish to-morrow. Free voucher in Pilot.
See you
Rick
G-RIKS
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| Subject: | Ted Gladstone e-mail ?????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
I am interested in getting in contact with Ted Gladstone, a fellow Europa
builder who has a web page at
http://www.systemwise.co.uk/europa/schedule.htm
Any help in contacting him would be appreciated.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
Classic 236 Taildragger (possibly convertible)
Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
Intended Engine: 912S or a "turboed single rotor rotary, when I am dreaming"
Instrumentation: Undecided
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| Subject: | Kim Prout`s email address |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Try KPAviat@verizon.net
Tom Friedland
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stanislav
vec
Subject: Europa-List: Kim Prout`s email address
--> Europa-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?<standa.svec@volny.cz>
Please, does anybody know, what`s happened with Kim Prout`s email
address? I communicated with him in last year through kpav@uia.net and
now I get my emails back with message: ----- The following addresses had
permanent fatal errors ----- kpav@uia.net (reason: 550 5.1.1
<kpav@uia.net>... User unknown).
Thanks very much for infos.
Stanislav, #438
==
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==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Length of Dipole Antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
Graham Singleton wrote:
>>Tony,
>> Get with one of the local ham radio operators that has a
>> GOOD SWR meter. Us it to "tune" the lengths to give you the best
>> (lowest swr) reflective power over the aircraft band. I have a
>> very nice curve which bottoms out about mid range.
>
>
> Its best done with any nearby metalwork in place, ie elevator push rod and
> other hardware. rudder pushrod too. They will have an effect
> Graham
>
Sure can have an effect on tuning, but worth noting that tuning the antenna will
not likely mitigate the effect on radiation pattern caused by nearby metal,
especially near the tips.
To this end, there's a web site with enormous detail on these antennas, and author
sounds authoritative. He has developed a "meander line" antenna using foil
tape. He claims similar performance, with the meander line seemingly favoring
the low end of the band a bit. Mostly what it does is allow for a shorter
antenna, placing tips further away from annoying metal elements.
Antenna fans can browse:
http://www.nancymoon.com/antennas.htm
Regards,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Re: Thruxton Drop of the Hat Fly In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
In case I have caused any confusion about the venue for today; it is
Thruxton. Weather looks fine.
Best wishes,
William
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