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1. 02:32 AM - Saga Sarga Drop of the Hat Chaps. (R.C.Harrison)
2. 04:29 AM - Alderney Fly-in 11-13 Jun 2004 (Rowland Carson)
3. 05:31 AM - Re: rotax parts source (Steve Hagar)
4. 05:35 AM - Re: rotax parts source (Jim Brown)
5. 06:14 AM - Drop of the Hat fly in Thruxton (RMRRick@aol.com)
6. 06:33 AM - Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill (William Mills)
7. 06:45 AM - Re: rotax parts source (Kevin Klinefelter)
8. 06:54 AM - Europa trigear for sale (Cripps, David)
9. 08:27 AM - Re: Safe Heating Sources. (Rob Housman)
10. 09:54 AM - 914 parts (John & Paddy Wigney)
11. 10:53 AM - Re: 914 parts (Garry Stout)
12. 10:58 AM - Retractable tie downs 1 and 1 (ScramIt@aol.com)
13. 11:49 AM - Re: 914 parts (Rob Housman)
14. 12:45 PM - Re: Retractable tie downs 1 and 1 (Kevin Klinefelter)
15. 01:58 PM - list admin [was: rotax parts source] (Rowland Carson)
16. 02:48 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill (RMRRick@aol.com)
17. 02:48 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill (RMRRick@aol.com)
18. 02:51 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Thruxton (RMRRick@aol.com)
19. 03:27 PM - Re: 914 parts (Europa Aircraft)
20. 04:06 PM - Re: 914 parts (Jim Brown)
21. 09:40 PM - First Flight - C-GPHP (Christine and Peter Timm)
22. 09:43 PM - Drilling the tail wheel spring (Paul McAllister)
23. 09:59 PM - Re: Drilling the tail wheel spring (Cliff Shaw)
24. 11:51 PM - Re: Drilling the tail wheel spring (Kingsley Hurst)
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| Subject: | Saga Sarga Drop of the Hat Chaps. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! All
I had a good day flying yesterday in spite of Sheffield City Airport!
If you ever should want to go there be sure to have PPR'd them during which you
will find it is necessary to have faxed your full details for their records prior
to you becoming "in bound".
Needless to say I left it out of my trips.
Alternatively I flew to Tattenhill past Nottingham and Derby which were closed
due to a huge fog bank creeping in a NE direction. Did a quick turnround to fly
back and the fog had gone!
Then took another flight round Spurn Point along the North bank of the Humber
to land at Mount Airey (showing signs of getting cut up it would be a shame for
the super grass strip to be spoilt with winter flying) back to Wickenby. then
another flight round Caistor and back with deteriorating weather from the North.
How did anyone else get on ?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Alderney Fly-in 11-13 Jun 2004 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
As Europa pilots have supported the Alderney Fly-In well in the past,
The Europa Club now gets advance copies of the booking forms before
the main mailing goes out.
I'll send a soft-copies by e-mail in response to requests off-list
via <memsec@europaclub.org.uk>.
You can find out more about the Alderney Fly-In on the Alderney
Flying Club website <http://www.flyalderney.com>.
regards
Rowland
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| Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary
| Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532
| e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
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| Subject: | rotax parts source |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Dave:
The Lockwood catalog has breakdowns for all of the parts. Valve cover
gaskets?! What model 914 do you have? O rings buddy.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa, AZ
> [Original Message]
> From: <DJA727@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/18/04 2:38:04 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts
like
> plugs, valve cover gaskets?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to change my email address on this discussion
> forum?
>
> thanks,
>
> Dave
> A227
> mini U2
> 142 TT
>
>
>
>
>
--- Steve Hagar
--- hagargs@earthlink.net
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| Subject: | Re: rotax parts source |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Dave
I think there is a Rotax distributor in Calif. called California Power
Systems, who handles Rotax parts. Here on the East coast we have Lockwood
Aviation at Sebring Fl. Their parts phone # is 863 655 5100. They have a
parts catalogue for all Rotax engines. There is a complete exploded view of
each engine with all the parts #'s listed. The 914 plugs are in the 3.00
range??? or were.
Also go to web site Sparkplugs.com. They have Densco plugs at good prices.
Jim Brown
N398JB
500 + hrs
DJA727@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
> plugs, valve cover gaskets?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to change my email address on this discussion
> forum?
>
> thanks,
>
> Dave
> A227
> mini U2
> 142 TT
>
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat fly in Thruxton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hi All
Four Europas plus passengers made it for lunch at Thruxton. Very nice
restaurant and helpful AT.
So thanks to William, Paddy and Kim and Dunce and Dave.
Consensus suggested Tottenham for midweek. Looks OK for Wednesday?
Regards
Rick.
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hi Rick and All,
Do you want us to bring our football boots, or shall we fly to Tatenhill?
I agree Wednesday looks the best day.
Best wishes,
William
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----- Original Message -----
From: <RMRRick@aol.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Drop of the Hat fly in Thruxton
> --> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
>
> Hi All
>
> Four Europas plus passengers made it for lunch at Thruxton. Very nice
> restaurant and helpful AT.
> So thanks to William, Paddy and Kim and Dunce and Dave.
>
> Consensus suggested Tottenham for midweek. Looks OK for Wednesday?
>
> Regards
>
> Rick.
>
> (do not achieve)
>
>
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| Subject: | rotax parts source |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
California Power Systems...1-800-AIRWOLF...www.800-airwolf.com
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Subject: Re: Europa-List: rotax parts source
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Dave
I think there is a Rotax distributor in Calif. called California Power
Systems, who handles Rotax parts. Here on the East coast we have Lockwood
Aviation at Sebring Fl. Their parts phone # is 863 655 5100. They have a
parts catalogue for all Rotax engines. There is a complete exploded view of
each engine with all the parts #'s listed. The 914 plugs are in the 3.00
range??? or were.
Also go to web site Sparkplugs.com. They have Densco plugs at good prices.
Jim Brown
N398JB
500 + hrs
DJA727@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
>
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
> plugs, valve cover gaskets?
>
> Also, does anyone know how to change my email address on this discussion
> forum?
>
> thanks,
>
> Dave
> A227
> mini U2
> 142 TT
>
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| Subject: | Europa trigear for sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cripps, David" <david.cripps@spsystems.com>
Reluctantly for sale due to relocation abroad, Europa Classic trigear, GBWJH. Approx 200hrs. 912UL/Arplast PV50 electric VP prop. 1370lbs MAUW. See partial spec at www.afors.co.uk <http://www.afors.co.uk> , or e-mail me off-forum for full spec.
Despite this sad sale, I'll still watch this forum with interest. The Europa is
a fantastic aircraft all round and this Europa community is second to none in
terms of support.
All the best to you all.
David Cripps
david.cripps@spsystems.com
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| Subject: | Safe Heating Sources. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
First, beware - this scheme is untested (not yet flying).
I have cut a 1.5 inch square fixed flap (below a 2.0 inch diameter flange
ACS p/n 10350-8) for cabin heat. This as about as big as it can be and
still have some material left to attach the flange.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Roberts
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safe Heating Sources.
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
Back to the safe heating source topic.
Could someone tell me the size of the door or flap used aft of the coolers
to pull heat up for cabin or carb heat as some have done?
Thanks,
Jeff A258
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--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
<<<Time: 06:41:29 PM PST US
From: DJA727@aol.com
Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
--> Europa-List message posted by: DJA727@aol.com
Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like plugs,
valve cover gaskets? thanks,Dave A227 mini U2 142 TT>>>
Hi Dave,
I recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring, FL at 1-800-527-6289. They are full service
Rotax stockists. For technical questions, ask to speak to the maintenance
department. They have a good catalog and have always given me excellent service.
Cheers, John
N262WF
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree......Lockwood Aviation gives excellent parts service. Just this
morning I had to order a small 914 engine bracket that attaches the ignition
module to the block. I have a Rotax 914 service manual, but the manual
doesn't show part numbers. Simply by my describing the part, the Lockwood
guy was able to look up the part number on his computer screen, and will
ship the part to me today. Great service!
Does anyone know a source of Rotax exploded bill of materials with part
number listings?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
> From: DJA727@aol.com
> Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
plugs, valve cover gaskets? thanks,Dave A227 mini U2 142 TT>>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring, FL at 1-800-527-6289. They are
full service Rotax stockists. For technical questions, ask to speak to the
maintenance department. They have a good catalog and have always given me
excellent service.
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF
>
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| Subject: | Retractable tie downs 1 and 1 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
For those of you who have been asking.
Retractable tie downs, one loss and a win. I didn't put the set in the wings,
didn't meet my criteria, accessible and removable for repair. The tail tie
down is in and done. Accessible, removable, repairable, and most of all
retractable! I could see the parts in my head, but my hands wouldn't make em. Locked
them in the garage the other day and wouldn't let them out until it was done. I
may have to move the pivot hole, a bit close to the edge, but you'll get the
Idea. Its also the point to pull the mono on to the trailer.
Thanks, Tony for getting me started
http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/272ae.html
http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/EuropaSite/Retractable%20Tie-down/Retractabl
e%20Tie-down.html
SteveD.
(OK, I still need shorter screws and nuts)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob Housman" <RobH@hyperion-ef.com>
The closest I have found is the 914 Maintenance Manual which can be
downloaded from http://www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com/
There are detailed exploded views of everything in that manual, but no
actual part numbers (except for the special tools). The descriptions
together with mentioning the page and figure numbers should be sufficient
for telling the Rotax folks what you need.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
Airframe complete
Irvine, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Garry Stout
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 parts
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree......Lockwood Aviation gives excellent parts service. Just this
morning I had to order a small 914 engine bracket that attaches the ignition
module to the block. I have a Rotax 914 service manual, but the manual
doesn't show part numbers. Simply by my describing the part, the Lockwood
guy was able to look up the part number on his computer screen, and will
ship the part to me today. Great service!
Does anyone know a source of Rotax exploded bill of materials with part
number listings?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
> From: DJA727@aol.com
> Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
plugs, valve cover gaskets? thanks,Dave A227 mini U2 142 TT>>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring, FL at 1-800-527-6289. They are
full service Rotax stockists. For technical questions, ask to speak to the
maintenance department. They have a good catalog and have always given me
excellent service.
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF
>
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| Subject: | Retractable tie downs 1 and 1 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gte.net>
Hi Steve, I cant get the link to work so cant view your retract tail tie
down.
I bought a AN eyebolt to replace the tailspring bolt. A small stainless
carabiner from a paraglider harness, that I plan to keep in the plane, hooks
in to the eyebolt for whatever tiedown to attach to. No extra work! Not
retractable, but not much worse than the regular bolt head.
Does anyone have a way to tie down from the outriggers, with fairings? I was
thinking of a metal (SS) tang that protruded out of the fairing, bolted to
the outrigger assembly. Again, not retractable.
Just finished trimming the flap drive hole fairings on the bottom of the
flaps. Thanks, Paul McA, for the idea. Looks clean, like maybe a tiny drag
reduction..
Kevin, filling and sanding the completed airframe
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of ScramIt@aol.com
Subject: Europa-List: Retractable tie downs 1 and 1
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
For those of you who have been asking.
Retractable tie downs, one loss and a win. I didn't put the set in the
wings,
didn't meet my criteria, accessible and removable for repair. The tail tie
down is in and done. Accessible, removable, repairable, and most of all
retractable! I could see the parts in my head, but my hands wouldn't make
em. Locked
them in the garage the other day and wouldn't let them out until it was
done. I
may have to move the pivot hole, a bit close to the edge, but you'll get the
Idea. Its also the point to pull the mono on to the trailer.
Thanks, Tony for getting me started
http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/272ae.html
http://homepage.mac.com/sdunsmuir/EuropaSite/Retractable%20Tie-down/Retracta
bl
e%20Tie-down.html
SteveD.
(OK, I still need shorter screws and nuts)
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| Subject: | list admin [was: rotax parts source] |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004 01 18 21:38 -0500 DJA727@aol.com wrote:
>does anyone know how to change my email address on this discussion
>forum
Dave - at the bottom of each message on this forum is a block of
useful information, including the lines:
If you go to either of those addresses, facilities are provided for
subscribing and un-subscribing. The latter should be easier & quicker
for a Europa list subscriber since it doesn't show _all_ the other
lists Matt runs - but if you subscribe to any others besides the
Europa list then it might be handier to go to the general-purpose
page.
Simply un-subscribe the old or unwanted e-mail address and subscribe
the new one.
regards
Rowland
--
| Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/>
| 660 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Wow what a slip (my being a Spurs season ticket holder!). Hope to see you at
Tattenham.
I think this all the fault of my AOL spell checker that thinks Duncan is
Dunce and having 'learnt' Tottenham replaced Tattenham.
Regards
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Tatenhill |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Sorry Tatenhill. There I go again.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat fly in Thruxton |
--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hi All
A couple of people wouln't mind Tottenham but most would prefer Tatenham on
Wednesday!
Regards
Rick
G-RIKS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Hi All,
The illustrated parts manual lists views of all parts with part numbers,
along with torque specs. It is available online at
www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com
Happy flying!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Garry Stout
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 parts
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
I agree......Lockwood Aviation gives excellent parts service. Just this
morning I had to order a small 914 engine bracket that attaches the ignition
module to the block. I have a Rotax 914 service manual, but the manual
doesn't show part numbers. Simply by my describing the part, the Lockwood
guy was able to look up the part number on his computer screen, and will
ship the part to me today. Great service!
Does anyone know a source of Rotax exploded bill of materials with part
number listings?
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
> From: DJA727@aol.com
> Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
> Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
plugs, valve cover gaskets? thanks,Dave A227 mini U2 142 TT>>>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring, FL at 1-800-527-6289. They are
full service Rotax stockists. For technical questions, ask to speak to the
maintenance department. They have a good catalog and have always given me
excellent service.
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Gary
call Lockwood and ask for current catalog. It will have the info you need, plus
a seperate insert with listing of part numbers along with the cost of that
part.
Jim Brown
Garry Stout wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> I agree......Lockwood Aviation gives excellent parts service. Just this
> morning I had to order a small 914 engine bracket that attaches the ignition
> module to the block. I have a Rotax 914 service manual, but the manual
> doesn't show part numbers. Simply by my describing the part, the Lockwood
> guy was able to look up the part number on his computer screen, and will
> ship the part to me today. Great service!
>
> Does anyone know a source of Rotax exploded bill of materials with part
> number listings?
>
> Garry Stout
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
> > From: DJA727@aol.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: rotax parts source
> > Does anybody know the best way to get parts for the 914 engine? Parts like
> plugs, valve cover gaskets? thanks,Dave A227 mini U2 142 TT>>>
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > I recommend Lockwood Aviation in Sebring, FL at 1-800-527-6289. They are
> full service Rotax stockists. For technical questions, ask to speak to the
> maintenance department. They have a good catalog and have always given me
> excellent service.
> >
> > Cheers, John
> > N262WF
> >
>
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| Subject: | First Flight - C-GPHP |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Christine and Peter Timm <cptimm@telus.net>
After 4 years in the build, Paul Peregrym's beautiful XS Mono, C-GPHP, left
the surly bonds of earth for the first time today (January 19, 2004). The 30
min. flight took place at Abbotsford airport piloted by Peter Timm in cool,
calm weather.
The aircraft flies like a dream and displayed the well known, excellent
Europa handling characteristics. Before the next flight, Paul plans to back
up the turnbuckles on the tail wheel springs because tracking after touch
down was a bit squirrelly. Also exhaust fumes in the cockpit will need to
be addressed. Otherwise, there were no bad tendencies to report.
Named 'Snowgoose', Paul's plane has a decal of it's namesake decorating fin
and rudder designed by wife, Hazel and looks as sharp as it flies. Paul has
produced a first class airplane and it was a privilege to be invited to
perform the first flight honors. We wish him many rewarding flying hours
ahead.
Peter Timm
C-GIET
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I have to drill the tail wheel spring and I must admit to not looking forward to
doing this with a hand drill. I am assuming that the spring steel will be pretty
tough going.
I was thinking of buying a cobalt drill for the purpose, but I am wondering what
others have done. Any advice would be appreciated.
Paul
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
Paul
You will find that a good HS steel drill will work just fine. I did it with
a hand held electric drill motor.
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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> Hi all,
>
> I have to drill the tail wheel spring and I must admit to not looking
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| Subject: | Drilling the tail wheel spring |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Paul McAllister wrote: I was thinking of buying a cobalt drill for the
purpose, but I am wondering what others have done.
Paul,
After trying a masonry bit as suggested in the manual with limited
success, like Cliff, I too found that a good quality HS drill bit worked
Ok. Keep the drill bit cool and run it at a fairly medium to slow pace.
Suggest you do it in a drill press too.
You must be getting close by now Hey?
Regs
Kingsley Hurst
Europa Mono Classic 281
in Oz
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