---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/28/04: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:20 AM - New Kit A286 Mono (Mike Baker) 2. 11:28 AM - SKYFORCE pinouts (bizzarro@easynet.co.uk) 3. 12:26 PM - Engine options (Kenneth Gresham) 4. 01:05 PM - Re: Engine options (Peter Zutrauen) 5. 02:53 PM - Re: New Kit A286 Mono (Rowland Carson) 6. 02:53 PM - european trip with freebies! (Rowland Carson) 7. 04:13 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 01/27/04 (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:24 AM PST US From: Mike Baker Subject: Europa-List: New Kit A286 Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: Mike Baker Hi all, We received the big box of parts on 21 Jan 2004. This is Mike & Mary Baker Benton, Kansas Still working on unpacking and inventory. I have been reading this forum for about 2 months. Would like a sketch or dxf file of the cradle that is shown in the Experimenter article form 99. Hi all __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:18 AM PST US From: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk Subject: Europa-List: SKYFORCE pinouts --> Europa-List message posted by: bizzarro@easynet.co.uk Hi All I would like to connect my skymap to my laptop (9pin serial) to use it to drive the Jeppessen Flite Map software I have just bought (which seems to be excellent). Ultimately i would like to copy the installation in G-EMIN with a separate screen up front, driven from the laptop/mini computer in the back. Does anyone know the pinouts for this cable including the power pins? Cheers Eddie G-SELF Sanding, sanding, sanding! --------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.easynetdial.co.uk ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:07 PM PST US From: "Kenneth Gresham" Subject: Europa-List: Engine options --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" Just wondering if any builders are or will be using a Mazda rotary? Ken Gresham , Illinois A268 Preparing to fit wings ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:57 PM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engine options From: "Peter Zutrauen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" Hi Ken, The Mazda at 300lbs installed weight for a 2 rotor, it's just too heavy. I'm keeping my eye on a single rotor variant with custom aluminum side plates.... @ less than 200lbs - but it's still in the very early development stages and as such is still unproven. Richard Sohn is the fellow doing the work unicorn@gdsys.net. I have some pics I could email you. The Midwest Norton rotary was tried in the Europa early on by the factory (as per the old newsletters), but they apparently had cooling issues - there may be one or two flying in the UK. The Norton design has now been purchased by Diamond Aircraft, and marketed out of Italy. http://aeroshop.it/engines/ Likely very expensive, and one would still likely have the cooling and consumption issues. Nice and light though (105Hp @ 155lbs wet with a second alternator). Cheers, Pete A239 -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth Gresham [mailto:kgresham@mtco.com] Subject: Europa-List: Engine options --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" Just wondering if any builders are or will be using a Mazda rotary? Ken Gresham , Illinois A268 Preparing to fit wings == == == == ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:36 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Kit A286 Mono --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2004 01 28 09:19 -0800 Mike Baker wrote: >Would like a sketch or dxf file of the cradle that is >shown in the Experimenter article form 99. Mike - I don't think anyone's published such dimensions. Chuck Pops' Cradle (as seen in EAA Experimenter May 1999) was described fairly fully on his website - was but may have changed. [Shameless advertising follows] There is also information about several other fuselage & wing supports, including dimensions of the factory dolly, on the CD-ROM issued to new members of The Europa Club. Ask me off-forum for more info about joining the Club. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:36 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: european trip with freebies! --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson The following notice has been brought rather belatedly to my attention by Penny Sharpe at the PFA HQ. = = = = = = = = = = = = = We have been asked if we would be interested in joining some of the other European homebuilt Associations to exhibit an aircraft at the ILA 2004 to be held in Berlin 10 - 16th May. There is space being made available for 5 - 7 aircraft with preference given to aircraft with a particularly interesting design or technology. The organisers are supporting the initiative financially by offering the following:- A double room B & B for the event duration. All ATC and airport fees paid. Free transfer from the airport to hotel. 1 tank of fuel towards the return journey. 25 euros per day per person for up to 2 people. Would any members who are interested in showing off their plane and representing the PFA please contact me at Turweston on 01280 846786. Graham Newby = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Sadly, I don't have a flying aeroplane yet, but there must be some of the 120 flying Europa people in the UK who could take this up! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:43 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 01/27/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 27/01/2004 -0800, you wrote: >Gelcoat and laminair wings. >After 25 years and 2500 hours my motorglider Pik 20E has still his first >coating and though it may have an ivory gloss, it flies like a laminair >sailplane without crackings. I will be there to see all the Europa's after >25 years and inspect them on there first coatings. PIK were the first glider manufacturer to use paint instead of polyester gel coat. (If I'm not mistaken, possible but unlikely on this occasion) Graham