---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/01/04: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:48 AM - Re: Tailwheel tire (Kevin Klinefelter) 2. 09:02 AM - Re: Parcal Mail (Ami McFadyean) 3. 09:06 AM - Re: Tailwheel tire (Ami McFadyean) 4. 09:59 AM - Re: Tailwheel tire (Robert Berube) 5. 10:15 AM - Re: Parcal Mail (Kevin Klinefelter) 6. 10:41 AM - Re: Tailwheel tire () 7. 01:17 PM - Re: Wiring (n3eu@comcast.net) 8. 02:33 PM - Re: Tailwheel tire (John & Amy Eckel) 9. 05:40 PM - Re: Tailwheel tire (Kevin Klinefelter) 10. 08:55 PM - Seat belts (Tony S Krzyzewski) 11. 09:02 PM - Re: Re: Tailwheel Attachment Ply (JR (Bob) Gowing) 12. 11:46 PM - Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:48:05 AM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" Is anyone using a full swiveling tailwheel? So you can push the plane backwards? Kevin -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald J. Parigoris Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch Aircraft Spruce one provided? Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe and go after it with a 3 inch air sander? Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:49 AM PST US From: "Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Parcal Mail --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" Would a kind builder in the States be prepared to receive and forward a package from Fort Worth to me in the UK? The package would contain a transponder (but package can be opened for verification if needed); the current owner is not willing ship to other than a US address. I would send funds (USD check or bankers draft) to cover UPS shipping and insurance (about 35USD) and an address label to stick on the parcel. Duncan McF. do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:00 AM PST US From: "Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" Difficult to engineer this with the current tailwheel spring; or at least I couldn't work out a way of doing it. May be possible if the existing "rim" on the spring rod just above the tailwheel fork could be reshaped to form a cam, but very little material here to play with. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" > > Is anyone using a full swiveling tailwheel? So you can push the plane > backwards? > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald J. > Parigoris > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > > Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch > Aircraft > Spruce one provided? > > Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? > > Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe and > go > after it with a 3 inch air sander? > > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:57 AM PST US From: "Robert Berube" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" Van's full swivel tailwheel assembly fits the Europa Tailspring perfectly. We use it with the conventional gear. I would hesitate to use full swivel on the monowheel, could easily result in an unwanted trip in the bushes. It would be preferable to use a tailwheel dolly to pick up the tailwheel. Bob Berube N166BB Conventional Flying ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" > > Difficult to engineer this with the current tailwheel spring; or at least I > couldn't work out a way of doing it. > May be possible if the existing "rim" on the spring rod just above the > tailwheel fork could be reshaped to form a cam, but very little material > here to play with. > > Duncan McF. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Klinefelter" > To: > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" > > > > Is anyone using a full swiveling tailwheel? So you can push the plane > > backwards? > > > > Kevin > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald J. > > Parigoris > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > > > > > Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch > > Aircraft > > Spruce one provided? > > > > Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? > > > > Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe > and > > go > > after it with a 3 inch air sander? > > > > Ron Parigoris > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:56 AM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Parcal Mail --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" No problem, my address is: Kevin Klinefelter 5201 Westridge Rd. Bishop CA 93514 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami McFadyean Subject: Re: Europa-List: Parcal Mail --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" Would a kind builder in the States be prepared to receive and forward a package from Fort Worth to me in the UK? The package would contain a transponder (but package can be opened for verification if needed); the current owner is not willing ship to other than a US address. I would send funds (USD check or bankers draft) to cover UPS shipping and insurance (about 35USD) and an address label to stick on the parcel. Duncan McF. do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:51 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: Hi Ron I followed the advice of another (Eric Trombley?) and Dennis Vories and replaced the tailwheel with a sealed bearing wheel by Colson and the outrigger wheels with sealed bearing wheels by the same company. Vories reports that they not only don't sling grease but that they also are much quieter. Tom Friedland -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ronald J. Parigoris Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch Aircraft Spruce one provided? Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe and go after it with a 3 inch air sander? Ron Parigoris == == == == ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:56 PM PST US From: n3eu@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wiring --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net Kenneth Gresham wrote: > >I am looking for suggestions for routing antenna cables (nav, comm, > and transponder) and 12 volt wiring from aft of baggage bay. This > is a tri-gear and I think I would prefer going through the center > tunnel but I do not know what problems this may present. I am > installing the finger brakes so there is access through the top > front of tunnel just below the panel. Would a conduit bonded to > the floor work? Do I need to separate antenna cables from other > wires, if so, by how far? I need to bond on top of fuselage and > want to do all steps possible with it off. I have most everything coming through the tri-gear's tunnel. My electrical bundles are clamped and tie-wrapped, or wrapped with spiral cut poly tubing - mostly for neatness or where there's possible chafing. Any conduit here would serve no purpose if there's enough access to string the wires. I provided this via a large access panel on the fuselage bottom where the monowheel would be. Running any antenna coax in a bundle with electrical wire is a problem because of intimate contact with any wire carrying 14V supply, which will have assorted noise on it for inductive pickup. The shield on these coax cables doesn't do all we intuitively think it does, and least so in a fiberglass airplane because the antenna end of the shield is floating in space. It is best to run antenna coax by themselves. I used plastic, self-adhesive wire clips affixed to the sides of the tunnel. Since the inner glass is not smooth, one can likely use 5-minute epoxy on the foam adhesive. Regards, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:37 PM PST US From: "John & Amy Eckel" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_96_XX --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" Kevin, John Hurst has a piece of rope with a loop tied in each end. He hooks the loops to the axle stubs and pulls the plane backwards. Works very well. John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" > > Is anyone using a full swiveling tailwheel? So you can push the plane > backwards? > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald J. > Parigoris > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > > Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch > Aircraft > Spruce one provided? > > Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? > > Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe and > go > after it with a 3 inch air sander? > > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:40:34 PM PST US From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" Thanks John, I have been using the rope method for pulling the fuse out of the garage to work (sand) on it. I just thought that the swiveling tailwheels that I have seen on so many taildragers would be much more convenient. But, not at the expense of stability on the rollout. Kevin, sanding wildly, close to priming the whole deal. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John & Amy Eckel Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" Kevin, John Hurst has a piece of rope with a loop tied in each end. He hooks the loops to the axle stubs and pulls the plane backwards. Works very well. John, A230 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Klinefelter" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kevin Klinefelter" > > Is anyone using a full swiveling tailwheel? So you can push the plane > backwards? > > Kevin > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ronald J. > Parigoris > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel tire > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ronald J. Parigoris" > > > Anyone using a different tire for the tailwheel other than the 6 inch > Aircraft > Spruce one provided? > > Anyone try the sealed bearings Aircraft Spruce sells? > > Anyone try to grind the tire so it tracks round? Like put it in a lathe and > go > after it with a 3 inch air sander? > > Ron Parigoris > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:35 PM PST US From: Tony S Krzyzewski (by way of Matt Dralle ) Subject: Europa-List: Seat belts --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony S Krzyzewski (by way of Matt Dralle ) The plane I am flying, ZK-UBD, has a four point harness with individual straps which I prefer to the Europa harness with the verticals tied to the lap straps. ] I've tried to hunt down a supplier of these in Australasia but with no luck so far. Has anyone in the US used an individual strapped harness and, if so, where did you source them from. Tony ============================================ Tony S Krzyzewski Managing Director Ph +64 9 274 1590 Kaon Technologies Ltd Fx +64 9 274 1593 PO Box 58521 Cell 021 921 988 Greenmount tonyk@kaon.co.nz Auckland NZ ============================================ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:02:09 PM PST US From: "JR (Bob) Gowing" Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel Attachment Ply --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" zigfan J R (Bob) Gowing, Secretary, Rotary Club of Bega NSW, District 9710 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: Tailwheel Attachment Ply > Your email message was temporarily blocked by my spam > filter. If you feel this is an error, please follow > these instructions. > > The attached image contains a password. > Reply to this email and enter the password > in the subject or body of your reply. > > Thank you. > ____________________________________________________ > This email account is protected with Spam Bully. > www.spambully.com > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR (Bob) Gowing" > > To Tony Renshaw in particular > > Dear Tony > > My stack is more like the wall of a dam - remember it has to have the metal > bar across the top. It slopes down on the front back but is wide across the > fuselage. The sloping sides help you lay the glass as well as spread the > load. > > You could make up the stack of ply pieces roughly sized to what you want > with shorter bits of ply toward the bottom where it will be rounded to suit > the bottom of the fuselage and with bits of thin cardboard between to take > up the space of the glass layers. Hold it together with a small bolt; then > shape the piece, rounding the bottom to suit the bottom of the fuselage. > You could arrange a nail, say sticking up from a block of wood under the > fuselage up through the bottom of the fuselage where the bolt is supposed to > go later so you can thread your pieces of ply and glass onto it as you lay > them in flox. That way the pile has to come out exactly as you first made > it! > > Best Wishes > J R (Bob) Gowing, UK kit 327 - > Singleton tailwheel in place, splash on pitch structure and pitch limits > set. > Now for setting wing pins. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Renshaw" > To: > Subject: Europa-List: Tailwheel Attachment Ply > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw > > > > > Gidday, > > I am confused by the longitudinal width of the ply inserts being > determined > > as 40 mm, and yet a side elevation has a conical stack? This would imply > > that they are as long as they are wide. So, do I build it up so that the > > cloth goes through steeper and steeper transitions to cover each and every > > piece of ply, or would it be better to make it more gradual, such as in > the > > conical side elevation. I also figured if I went conical, well I could > bury > > a nut for an invisible tie down point, and have the eyelet bolt attached > to > > my restraint rope, rather than have something hang down in the breeze. Any > > > ideas on this one??? > > > > Reg > > Tony Renshaw > > Sydney Australia > > > RANDOM_ > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:14 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting] DNA: do not archive --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Lister, Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. 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