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1. 01:38 AM - Re: Tire to wheel assembly (G-IANI)
2. 01:40 AM - Re: XS Trigear rudder cable alignment (Neville Eyre)
3. 01:54 AM - Re: Tire to wheel assembly (Neville Eyre)
4. 07:45 AM - Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! (Garry Stout)
5. 10:20 AM - Re: transponders (Ian Mansfeld)
6. 10:33 AM - Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! (James Nelson)
7. 10:33 AM - Re: XS Trigear rudder cable alignment (James Nelson)
8. 12:34 PM - Air IN = Air OUT (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
9. 01:17 PM - Re: Air IN = Air OUT (Jeff Roberts)
10. 02:16 PM - Australia trip (Graham Singleton)
11. 02:50 PM - Transponder antenna (Paul Stewart)
12. 02:58 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (ScramIt@aol.com)
13. 03:53 PM - Re: Transponder antenna ()
14. 04:31 PM - Re: Transponder antenna (n3eu@comcast.net)
15. 04:52 PM - Nose gear tire (Kenneth Gresham)
16. 05:48 PM - Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! (Robert Berube)
17. 07:21 PM - Re: Nose gear tire (Ken)
18. 07:42 PM - Re: Nose gear tire (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
19. 07:50 PM - Re: transponders (n3eu@comcast.net)
20. 08:07 PM - Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! (Kingsley Hurst)
21. 08:16 PM - Re: Australia trip (Kingsley Hurst)
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| Subject: | Tire to wheel assembly |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
I was equally mystified. On contacting Nev I learnt that the two nuts and
washer, that ship with the tube, are not required at all. Once you know
that the orientation/ location is fairly obvious.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI (Finished? hoping to fly in the next week or two)
Europa Club Assistant Mods Rep
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
-----Original Message-----The two nuts and washer that ship with the tube
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kenneth
Gresham
Subject: Europa-List: Tire to wheel assembly
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" <kgresham@mtco.com>
The 2 main wheel inner tubes came with 1chrome and 1 brass nut ana a chrome
washer each. On one the brass nut and washer was tight against the tube with
the other loose. On the other both nuts were in the stem with the washer
between. What is the correct orientation and location of these parts? How
does the valve stem lay inside the wheel? I see no drawings or description
in the manual. This should be so easy, but I don't want to mess things up.
Thanks.
Ken Gresham
A268 Wings rigged, doing flap extensions, and gear
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| Subject: | Re: XS Trigear rudder cable alignment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi All,
The STB rudder cable exits the fuselage at about 13'' forward of the hinge line,
and yes ,it has to bend outwards slightly. As instructed in the Manual, use
a piece of conduit [ supplied, No BS116, which is the black rigid pipe, as used
for the brake line ] .
The pipe will have a bend set in it from being curled up on a roll, scuff sand
the outside of the pipe, and bond it in place, so the ''set'' guides the cable
from the inside to the outside in a gradual curve.
Thread the cable through , and fix to the horn to align the tube, leave 1'' or
so of the pipe showing on each side.
Hope this makes things clearer ?
Cheers,
Nev.
>>> <TELEDYNMCS@aol.com> 02/16/04 01:06am >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Greetings all,
In an effort to get everything done before the top goes on I've been looking
at the rudder cable alignment. The manual calls for fairleads to be installed
in the rear bulkhead 1 3/8" left and right of the centerline and the same
distance from the floor as measured at the centerline. It also calls for the
starboard rudder cable to exit 13" from the horn, which is essentially at the hinge
line. This alignment appears to make the rudder cable change course at the
bulkhead by about 15 degrees to starboard. Is this correct? I plan to use nylon
fairleads to reduce friction, but will I have a binding problem?
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245 (wiring, sanding, eyeballing, head scratching in prep for bonding on
the lid)
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| Subject: | Re: Tire to wheel assembly |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <Neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi All,
The correct location for these parts is in the trash bin !
Discard them, when inflating the tube, pull the valve stem as far out as you can,
the stem just ''floats'' in the wheel.
Cheers,
Nev.
>>> "Kenneth Gresham" <kgresham@mtco.com> 02/15/04 06:30pm >>>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" <kgresham@mtco.com>
The 2 main wheel inner tubes came with 1chrome and 1 brass nut ana a chrome washer
each. On one the brass nut and washer was tight against the tube with the
other loose. On the other both nuts were in the stem with the washer between.
What is the correct orientation and location of these parts? How does the valve
stem lay inside the wheel? I see no drawings or description in the manual. This
should be so easy, but I don't want to mess things up. Thanks.
Ken Gresham
A268 Wings rigged, doing flap extensions, and gear
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Doug,
I've got it penciled in on my calendar......weather permitting I'll be
there.
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Southeast Europa Fly In !!!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Doug Lawton" <skyrider2@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello Europa Owners !!!
>
> We'd like to announce our first annual Fly In and cookout for Europa
owners,
> builders, and pilots at Matthews Field.
>
> Saturday and Sunday, June 5th & 6th, 2004.
>
> Matthews field is centrally & conveniently located approximately 20
statute
> miles NW of downtown Chattanooga, TN and Lovell Field. We're in the
> beautiful Sequatchie Valley near the town of Whitwell TN. For Photos of
the
> field and area, click here:
>
> http://www.ofoto.com/BrowsePhotos.jsp?&collid=157189773103
>
>
> LAT 35 15.543 LONG 085 27.004
> Listed On Sectionals As Matthews (Pvt - Glider)
>
> 2200' Lighted Grass Runway, 700' elevation. Camping is available on site
> with shower and bathroom facilities, plenty of tiedown space and limited
> hangar space, and local transportation to nearby restaurants and motels.
>
>
> Contact for more Info: Doug Lawton or
> John Lawton
> 139 Quitman Lane
> 306 Condra Lane
> Clarkesville, GA 30523
> Whitwell, TN 37397
> skyrider2@earthlink.net
> teledynmcs@aol.com
> (706) 947-7437 offfice
> (423) 240-0064 cell
> (706) 499-8704 cell
> (706) 947-3133 fax
>
> Please contact one of us prior to coming by for updates and operating
> procedures. We look forward to seeing you all !!!
>
> Doug Lawton
> Matthews Field
> Southern Air-Time, LLC
>
> RSVP's Requested by May 31, 2004
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: transponders |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ian Mansfeld" <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
There you go, they get smaller etc the closer you get to the implementation
date. Save your wallet today, tomorrow may be cancelled!
Ian.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: transponders
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> The Filser at:
> http://www.filser.de/main.php?dat=e_ger_trt60
> comes pretty close to a handheld (i.e. small size and low current drain).
>
>
> Duncan McF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Mansfeld" <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: transponders
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ian Mansfeld"
> <ian_mansfeld@lineone.net>
> >
> > I believe that there is now some doubt in the UK CAA about the dates for
> > Mode S being acheivable, especially as no viable 'hand-held' transponder
> has
> > yet been made for the glider/baloon/microlight markets. My advice with
> > avionics is not to jump too soon... try to wait and either a) the
> > requirement will be postponed, or b) the big guys will start making
> > equipment and so the price will fall. If you try and equip now, your kit
> > will probably be outdated by the time the rules come into force.
> >
> > Ian.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RE: Europa-List: transponders
> >
> >
> > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
> > >
> > > Graham
> > >
> > > Yes we will have to have mode S. For IFR flight the date is April
2005
> > and
> > > for VFR April 2008 (I believe).
> > >
> > > There was talk of everything that was airborne having to be equipped -
> > even
> > > skydivers!
> > >
> > > There is still a lot of resistance to the idea, as it appears to be so
> > late
> > > coming in that it may well be superseded by something else.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Gary,
Lets go as a flight of two! Maybe we can get Bob to go also as a
flight of three!
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: XS Trigear rudder cable alignment |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi John,
I had my cables in a nylon sheath from the front back through the
removable bulkhead behind the mono-wheel and terminating just before the
cable pulley in the tunnel. From the pulley the cable runs back to a
fairlead that I mounted on a small plywood mounting strip that I glassed
to the back of the tunnel as it opens up into the rear. I raised the
cable about 2" at that point. I then ran the cables upward to the
counter weight brace (don't remember the nomenclature). I mounted a long
piece of plywood that extended beyond the width of the brace. I then
placed two more nylon fairleads on the ends and bolted it to the
verticals. This brought the cables up and off the floor of the fuselage
and almost in a straight line to the Singleton bell crank that is
mounted to the back of the rear bulkhead. This path keeps the cables in
a straight line (almost) from the cable pulley by the seat and gets them
away from the fuel lines ect. that populate the tunnel. You get the jest
of the path. The fairleads keep the cable in line and keep it from
flopping around. The plywood pieces were coated with resin to weather
proof them and allow them to be bonded where needed and bolted to the
rear vertical framework.
I would like to come to the Tenn. get together. Lets hope the
weather is good as I want to fly up there. Maybe I can get Gary Stout to
fly up there with me. Its more fun to go as a flight of two. Maybe Bob
will be able to go also as a flight of three....
Jim Nelson
N15JN
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| Subject: | Air IN = Air OUT |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
Hi all,
In order to extend the Nordic flying season, a good cabin heating
arrangement will be essential. Many have offered good advise on this forum
and on their websites on how to get air into the cabin - that is, provided
the intended volume IN can also find a way OUT!
Do any have good flying experience with exhaust air arrangement on Europa
(tri-gear/mono), other than just let the doors bulge out and cause a leak
due to the pressure build-up in the cabin (which by definition also means a
restriction to good airflow IN)?
Thanks and best regards to all,
Svein K. Johnsen
A225 XS trigear - now in Norway - working on "100 things" in the back before
bonding the top on.
Gear, wings, wing sockets etc. completed with top temporarily in place.
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| Subject: | Re: Air IN = Air OUT |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
on 2/16/04 3:34 PM, Sidsel & Svein Johnsen at sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no
wrote:
> In order to extend the Nordic flying season, a good cabin heating
> arrangement will be essential. Many have offered good advise on this forum
> and on their websites on how to get air into the cabin - that is, provided
> the intended volume IN can also find a way OUT!
>
> Do any have good flying experience with exhaust air arrangement on Europa
> (tri-gear/mono), other than just let the doors bulge out and cause a leak
> due to the pressure build-up in the cabin (which by definition also means a
> restriction to good airflow IN)?
>
Sven,
Good question. I was planning a couple of vents in the baggage bay area just
so any vented air, hot or cold could flow through. Not even sure if its
necessary.
Jeff
A258
Do not archive.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 15/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>Alan Twigg wrote:- I am visting my mother ( 90th birthday), in Coolangata,
>from 18th to 25th Feb, are there any Europa builders / flyers who would not
>mind a visit.
>
>Alan,
>
>Being 600km from Coolangatta, I am too far away but there are a few Europa
>builders / fliers around the Gold Coast area of which Coolangatta is a part.
>Unfortunately, I have never seen any of them on this List so I guess they
>are not aware of your coming.
>
>One chap I'm sure would make you welcome is Bob DeLissa
Kingsley,
what about Lance Sandford? I don't know where Coolangata is but Lance moved
to Brisbane area last year? His project is well worth a careful look.
Graham
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| Subject: | Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Can anyone enlighten me on positioning our transponder stubb antenna?
We have a microair T2000 transponder. They have suggested to us we
should limit the co-ax cable to 6 feet due signal loss. This would
preclude it going behind the baggage bay. I seem to have got it into my
head from somewhere that transponder antennae should be kept a
reasonable distance from occupants or is this just b******s?
Regards
Paul Stewart #432 now G-GIDY (makes flying seem closer anyway)
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
I've been around and around with this same thing. After much consternation
and emails with Bob Archer, it's on the starboard side wall behind the access
hatch. Cable length 9'
SteveD.
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| Subject: | Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <beecho@beecho.org>
Hi Paul
I also have the T2000. Bob on the Aeroelectric forum repeatedly says
there is no harm to the body even if it is quite close. Mine is under
the baggage area, the coax thru the tunnel and the total length is 6"
6". I suspect it will work.
Tom
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Stewart
Subject: Europa-List: Transponder antenna
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
<europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Can anyone enlighten me on positioning our transponder stubb antenna?
We have a microair T2000 transponder. They have suggested to us we
should limit the co-ax cable to 6 feet due signal loss. This would
preclude it going behind the baggage bay. I seem to have got it into my
head from somewhere that transponder antennae should be kept a
reasonable distance from occupants or is this just b******s?
Regards
Paul Stewart #432 now G-GIDY (makes flying seem closer anyway)
==
==
==
==
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| Subject: | Re: Transponder antenna |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
Paul Stewart wrote:
> We have a microair T2000 transponder. They have suggested to us we
> should limit the co-ax cable to 6 feet due signal loss. This would
> preclude it going behind the baggage bay. I seem to have got it into my
> head from somewhere that transponder antennae should be kept a
> reasonable distance from occupants or is this just b******s?
>
> Regards
If using RG-400 coax or equivalent as one should, 9 ft. will be about 8% lossier
than 6 feet. The danger of human exposure to transponder replies is an old
wives tale. If a 250W xpondr is replying at the extraordinary rate of 1 per second,
a distance of 1 inch from the antenna is safe according to our FCC's RF
safety guidelines (and online calculator).
Regards,
Fred F.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" <kgresham@mtco.com>
What is the secret to getting the two wheel halves together with out pinching the
tube? The manual says to use a cardboard strip, but I don't see how to get
that in there and get the 2nd half in with the cardboard staying outside of it.
Ken Gresham
A268
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| Subject: | Re: Southeast Europa Fly In !!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube" <bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
Jim,
Three it is!!
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Nelson" <europajim@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Southeast Europa Fly In !!!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
>
> Gary,
> Lets go as a flight of two! Maybe we can get Bob to go also as a
> flight of three!
>
> Jim
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ken" <ken@soundsuckers.com>
On My RV I used a lot of baby powder. I put the tube in the tire and valve
stem thru it's hole then put the rims together with the bolts just enough to
hole it together, inflate tube just to expand it. Let out the air and then
with a small wire with the end looped over so it would not scratch tube I
made sure that tube was not pinched between two wheel half's by inserting
wire between half and giving tube a little nudge. Then go ahead and tighten
the bolts down when satisfied.
Ken rudder and stabelator just about done A-282
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth Gresham
Subject: Europa-List: Nose gear tire
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kenneth Gresham" <kgresham@mtco.com>
What is the secret to getting the two wheel halves together with out
pinching the tube? The manual says to use a cardboard strip, but I don't see
how to get that in there and get the 2nd half in with the cardboard staying
outside of it.
Ken Gresham
A268
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear tire |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
All,
What kind of tire pressure do people use in these type of tires? Figuring
hard runways.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Working on tailwheel and baggage
bay. Trial fit of top and both wings. The wings fit! Conventional gear assembled
and soon to be fitted.
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| Subject: | Re: transponders |
--> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net
> I do feel txponders are highly desirable but dislike the imposition
> of control from the beaurocrats, especially the ones in Brussels.
> Graham
>
I'm curious also about negative reaction elsewhere, or lack thereof, as to the
privacy implications. With Mode-S, flying VFR and even not in communication with
ATC, gubment (including now the military, post 9/11) can track everywhere
and whenever the aircraft flies and store it in a database, and if you own the
aircraft, they can presume that's you and easily verify otherwise. Vast majority
of citizens here would find that beyond totally intolerable. Even if not
aware of my situation, where there's a nuclear power plant near my airport, and
anything other than a straight line past it might put me on a terrorist watch
list....
Regards,
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Southeast Europa Fly In !!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Berube"
<bberube@tampabay.rr.com>
Jim,
Three it is!!
Bob
Have a heart you blokes (guys) for we who are not flying ....... talk
about being envious!!
Half your luck
Kingsley
Plodding along in Oz.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Graham Singleton wrote:
Kingsley,
what about Lance Sandford? I don't know where Coolangata is but Lance
moved
to Brisbane area last year? His project is well worth a careful look.
Graham
Thanks Graham, have heard about somebody moving into that area so will
try to look him up myself. Trouble is that when I am in Brisbane, I am
generally racing around like a blue arsed fly and don't get time to
scratch myself but I will make the effort to find out where he is.
When are you coming back?
Regs
Kingsley
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