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1. 02:30 AM - Re: Drop of a Hat Fly-ins - Fenland (William Mills)
2. 08:19 AM - Re: Seatbelts (rlborger)
3. 10:55 AM - Re: Shoulder harness (Ami McFadyean)
4. 03:38 PM - AFSAFE seat belts (Graham Singleton)
5. 06:03 PM - Test (Jim Puglise)
6. 06:04 PM - Re: Shoulder harness PDF (ScramIt@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: Drop of a Hat Fly-ins - Fenland |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hi Duncan,
The inversion was generally no more than 2,000 ft and the cloud was either
broken or scattered all the way, so I flew VMC at 3,000 in crystal clear air
and
in sight of the ground, although murky, all the way.
Best wishes,
William
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Drop of a Hat Fly-ins - Fenland
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
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> It was the weather that stunk!
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> Do not archive.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Drop of a Hat Fly-ins - Fenland
>
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> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills"
> <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
> >
> > Only one made it to Fenland!! I'll have to check my personal hygiene.
> > Regards,
> > William
> > (Do not archive)
> >
> >
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--> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
Eruopaphiles:
> It may be worth pointing out that the standard headrest attach point
on the
> Europa does not statisfy either the FAA or the EAA guidelines for
shoulder
> belt placement. Prior to that stage of construction you may want to
look at
> the appropriate FAA advisory circular. I followed Bob Berube's
example and
> tied the shoulder belts to the fuse seam line just behind the baggage
bulkhead
> with a big reinforcing hardpoint layup and a sturdy aluminum bracket
> Ira N224XS
The two FAA Advisory Circulars which pertain to the installation of
seat belts and shoulder straps are AC21-34 and AC43-12.2A. They can be
downloaded from the FAA website. If you have trouble finding them or
downloading them, let me know and I can e-mail copies of them to you.
Happy building and good flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, 914, Airmaster C/S
(60%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, working chapters 23
Fuselage Top, 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical & 29 Main Gear.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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Subject: | Re: Shoulder harness |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I think the Liberty have solved this issue by (from what I can see from the
photos) raising the height of the 'headrest'. But then it has a higher roof
line too, and raising the headrests would not interfere so much with loading
baggage, as it would on the homebuilt version.
Still can't see why the exiting headrest could not be extended with a stout
triangulated pylon over which the shoulder harness could be routed. I
suppose the whole lot would then need load testing, but I'm not offering
mine for this!!
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Subject: Europa-List: Shoulder harness
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
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> There was a thread regarding the ideal anchor point being above the
shoulder
> line to prevent crushed vertibrae in the event of a high-G stop.
> Has anyone evolved a high anchor point (say, based on a cable point in the
> after baggage bay area) or similar?
> Cheers, Ferg
> A064 914 mono Classic
>
>
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Subject: | AFSAFE seat belts |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 23/02/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: James H Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
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>Eric,
> Just a bit of warning. Mounting the inertial reel to the back of
>the seat is not the best place. The area is TO LOW. In a crash that
>point will cause you to have compression fractures of the back.
Exactly,
I had 3 wedge fractures in my lower back, also a torn diaphragm. Any more G
and the straps would have killed me! Fortunately the paramedic chopper was
already airborne and 10 minutes away so I got to the table within the hour.
Most bits they glued back on work again, {;-)
Also fortunately Ivan designed just enough strength in the airplane to keep
the G within that narrow band that made an unsurviveable accident surviveable.
Graham,
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Puglise" <jim_puglise@hotmail.com>
Test Only
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Subject: | Re: Shoulder harness PDF |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
FAA AC21-34.pdf Posted at:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/viewtopic.php?t=28
I can't fine the other PDF please email it to me and I'll post it.
Thanks,
SteveD.
I'll post any install pictures also.......
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