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1. 01:55 AM - Re: Fiberglass Resin (bryan allsop)
2. 02:06 AM - Re: Outriggers (nigel charles)
3. 02:16 AM - Re: Fiberglass Resin (Gerry Holland)
4. 03:08 AM - Battery (europa@pstewart.f2s.com)
5. 03:18 AM - Heater (Brian Hutchinson)
6. 05:50 AM - Re: Battery (KARL HEINDL)
7. 08:16 AM - Re: Outriggers (Steve Hagar)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Battery (Ami McFadyean)
9. 10:04 AM - Re: Fiberglass Resin (ivor.phillips)
10. 10:53 AM - Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument Panels) (Cory Emberson)
11. 12:18 PM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument Panels) (John & Amy Eckel)
12. 12:45 PM - suidel (Cory Emberson)
13. 01:52 PM - test message (Rowland Carson)
14. 03:00 PM - Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument Panels) (Cliff Shaw)
15. 05:40 PM - Re: Outriggers (James Nelson)
16. 05:40 PM - Re: Weight and balance procedure (James Nelson)
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Resin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
I am not in the South East, but if you get desparate I would be happy to let
you have some.
Bryan.....Derbyshire
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eamonn Sheridan" <esheridan1@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: Fiberglass Resin
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Eamonn Sheridan <esheridan1@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone in the London area or the South East have any spare resin and
hardner that I can buy, I only need a small amount in order to fix the new
finger brake mod.
>
> Thanks
>
> Eamonn
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nigelcharles@tiscali.co.uk>
>I fitted my out riggers today and I found that the wheels are 30mm off the
ground. I suspect that I could sneak a bit on both ends, but not a lot.
I'd be interested in knowing what are the typical distances that people are
using.<
This is basically a compromise. If the outrigger legs are too long they
create drag, wear and stress when operating off grass. Too short and the
aircraft will rock from side to side on tarmac reducing directional
stability. I would suggest a length where there is minimal rock when loaded
on level tarmac. Certainly control during take-offs and landings on tarmac
below aileron authority speed (about 35kts) with short legs is more
demanding.
If most of your flying is from tarmac longer legs are more suitable. If you
make them shorter for grass operation just be very careful when on tarmac.
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Resin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Eamonn
I have some Epoxy Resin if you require. It's some surplus delivered as part
of 'Shoulder Width' Mod. You're quite welcome to some.
I'm 6 miles SW of Bath.
Regards
Gerry
Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Fuselage being
Painted, Wings ready to paint, Flying surfaces painted Airframe Wiring
complete, Full Size Panel 60% done . Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom
A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Activity on Panel completion, Heater
Unit design and fabrication, Shoulder Width Mod.
http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
What's the consensus on battery capacity - 914/airmaster but UK based so VFR
only. I've heard anything from 17 to 30 AH but there's quite a weight
difference there.
Regards
Paul Stewart G-GIDY
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Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Hutchinson" <hutch@hangarbout.fsnet.co.uk>
Hi Gerry,
I see on your list of "dunnits", you've installed a heater mod. Its an area
that I'm pondering with currently, so I'm looking for inspiration... Would
you care to share your solution, and have you got PFA approval?
Cheers
Brian Hutchinson
> Gerry
>
> Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Fuselage being
> Painted, Wings ready to paint, Flying surfaces painted Airframe Wiring
> complete, Full Size Panel 60% done . Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom
> A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Activity on Panel completion,
Heater
> Unit design and fabrication, Shoulder Width Mod.
>
> http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Paul,
I use a YUASA 17 Ah with no problem for
a 912 S. It weighs 5.7 kg. Via Yellow
Pages I found a local battery supplier in
the Reading area. You can also get it
from RS Components stock no. 200-6505.
Needless to say, the price is half or one
third of what these aviation suppliers charge.
It is a sealed lead acid type, and I strapped it
to the starboard firewall.
Karl
>From: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Battery
>Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:08:11 +0000
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
>
>What's the consensus on battery capacity - 914/airmaster but UK based so
>VFR
>only. I've heard anything from 17 to 30 AH but there's quite a weight
>difference there.
>
>Regards
>
>Paul Stewart G-GIDY
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------
>Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/
>
>
http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Paul:
That is about what I obtained when I put mine on also. I was a bit
concerned and I purchased some extra nylon rod from Mcmaster Carr. Though
the consensus of the list was to leave it as it was. Once the aircraft is
loaded with fuel, interior fittings, and people there is a good deal of
setteling to occur. Better to be slightly short than slightly long and
creat undue stress. My feelings are that after putting some hours on the
bird and I don't like what I have its only a 30 minute job to put some
longer legs on.
Steve
A143
Mesa, AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 2/28/04 9:19:50 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: Outriggers
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I fitted my out riggers today and I found that the wheels are 30mm off
the ground. I suspect that I could sneak a bit on both ends, but not a
lot. I'd be interested in knowing what are the typical distances that
people are using.
>
> Paul
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
I previously had 30AHr mounted aft of baggage bay (and therefore long
cables). Didn't crank brilliantly (BMW R1100 10.7:1 comp. ratio and 550cc
per cylinder!); this was noticeable when assisting with jumpers.But needed
the capacity to run upto two electric fuel pumps (at 5amps each) and FADEC.
Now have 17AHr immobilised electrolyte high-discharge battery mounted on
firewall, which cranks 912s satisfactorily. But now don't need the capacity
because have no essential electric equipment to run off it.
Duncan Mcf.
----- Original Message -----
From: <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Battery
> --> Europa-List message posted by: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
>
> What's the consensus on battery capacity - 914/airmaster but UK based so
VFR
> only. I've heard anything from 17 to 30 AH but there's quite a weight
> difference there.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Stewart G-GIDY
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Everyone should have http://www.freedom2surf.net/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass Resin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
I have some resin and hardner or redux if you prefer!
give me a call if you still need it.
01689-836297
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed,working on rudder cables,
trial fit top and wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eamonn Sheridan" <esheridan1@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: Fiberglass Resin
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Eamonn Sheridan <esheridan1@yahoo.com>
>
> Does anyone in the London area or the South East have any spare resin and
hardner that I can buy, I only need a small amount in order to fix the new
finger brake mod.
>
> Thanks
>
> Eamonn
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument Panels) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hello!
I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazines that will feature builders who
have put interesting panels in their planes. John Hurst suggested I post my request
on the list, which was easy, because I already subscribe to four other
Matronics lists.
My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible, hopefully
by Monday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
Instrument Panels that are (one or any combination):
1. creative
2. inexpensive
3. nontraditional configuration
4. nontraditional equipment
5. easier to use
6. enhanced safety (maybe the configuration made a significant difference in troubleshooting/recognizing
a problem, or in putting the plane down safely because
of its ease of use)
7. generally cool and different
8. anything else distinctive about it.
Other things to keep in mind:
1. How you came to design your panel (How you got your idea)
2. The reasons why you did it as you did
3. What benefits you had in mind
4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
5. What you learned
6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
7. How it's performed
8. The equipment and tools you used
9. How much time it took to build and install
10. Whether it took any professional or amateur assistance
11. The cost of building it.
Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at a size
large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3 inches.
If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do any good.
By the way, I will be compiling another roundup in early March for distinctive
(etc.) interiors and/or exteriors, so if you would like to contact me about that
one, I'd love to hear from you!
Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Hayward, CA [KHWD]
510.599.4409
cory@lightspeededit.com
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| Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument |
Panels)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
This request by Kitplanes should bring some interesting responses.
My instrument panel is still sitting on a shelf so I have nothing to
contribute, but it might be useful if anyone that responds
posts their comments on this forum. Better yet, use:
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/
because you can also post pictures. I will see the article in Kitplanes,
but I am sure only a small part of what is submitted will be used. Being
I haven't designed my panel yet I would be interested in others ideas.
John, A230
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument
Panels)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson"
<bootless@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello!
>
> I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazines that will feature builders
who have put interesting panels in their planes. John Hurst suggested I
post my request on the list, which was easy, because I already subscribe to
four other Matronics lists.
>
> My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible,
hopefully by Monday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
>
> Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
>
> Instrument Panels that are (one or any combination):
> 1. creative
> 2. inexpensive
> 3. nontraditional configuration
> 4. nontraditional equipment
> 5. easier to use
> 6. enhanced safety (maybe the configuration made a significant difference
in troubleshooting/recognizing a problem, or in putting the plane down
safely because of its ease of use)
> 7. generally cool and different
> 8. anything else distinctive about it.
>
> Other things to keep in mind:
>
> 1. How you came to design your panel (How you got your idea)
> 2. The reasons why you did it as you did
> 3. What benefits you had in mind
> 4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
> 5. What you learned
> 6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
> 7. How it's performed
> 8. The equipment and tools you used
> 9. How much time it took to build and install
> 10. Whether it took any professional or amateur assistance
> 11. The cost of building it.
>
> Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at
a size large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3
inches. If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do
any good.
>
> By the way, I will be compiling another roundup in early March for
distinctive (etc.) interiors and/or exteriors, so if you would like to
contact me about that one, I'd love to hear from you!
>
> Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
>
> best regards,
>
> Cory Emberson
> Hayward, CA [KHWD]
> 510.599.4409
> cory@lightspeededit.com
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: <europa-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article
(Instrument Panels)
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> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson"
<bootless@earthlink.net>
>
> Hello!
>
> I am writing an article for Kitplanes magazines that will feature builders
who have put interesting panels in their planes. John Hurst suggested I
post my request on the list, which was easy, because I already subscribe to
four other Matronics lists.
>
> My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible,
hopefully by Monday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
>
> Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
>
> Instrument Panels that are (one or any combination):
> 1. creative
> 2. inexpensive
> 3. nontraditional configuration
> 4. nontraditional equipment
> 5. easier to use
> 6. enhanced safety (maybe the configuration made a significant difference
in troubleshooting/recognizing a problem, or in putting the plane down
safely because of its ease of use)
> 7. generally cool and different
> 8. anything else distinctive about it.
>
> Other things to keep in mind:
>
> 1. How you came to design your panel (How you got your idea)
> 2. The reasons why you did it as you did
> 3. What benefits you had in mind
> 4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
> 5. What you learned
> 6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
> 7. How it's performed
> 8. The equipment and tools you used
> 9. How much time it took to build and install
> 10. Whether it took any professional or amateur assistance
> 11. The cost of building it.
>
> Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at
a size large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3
inches. If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do
any good.
>
> By the way, I will be compiling another roundup in early March for
distinctive (etc.) interiors and/or exteriors, so if you would like to
contact me about that one, I'd love to hear from you!
>
> Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
>
> best regards,
>
> Cory Emberson
> Hayward, CA [KHWD]
> 510.599.4409
> cory@lightspeededit.com
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
Apologies for posting a test message - the Matronics list server
seems to be having a lot of trouble separating friend from foe at
present.
do not archive
--
| Wilma & Rowland Carson <http://home.clara.net/rowil/>
| <rowil@clara.net> ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
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| Subject: | Re: Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Instrument |
Panels)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
All
OK ; I just sent Cory a letter. A copy of it is now on the EuropaOwners
forum in the document section. I even figured out how to add a picture to
the bunch I sent in earlier. It is on page 12.
do not archive
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Amy Eckel" <eckel1@comcast.net>
>
> This request by Kitplanes should bring some interesting responses.
> http://forum.okhuijsen.org/
> John, A230
> do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Paul,
I had to make two new units. I went to my local plastics
supplier and got 3' of nylon 66 in 1" dia. and refigured the length I
needed. Replaced the factory units and all is well.
Jim Nelson
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:19:44 -0800 "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I fitted my out riggers today and I found that the wheels are 30mm
> off the ground. I suspect that I could sneak a bit on both ends,
> but not a lot. I'd be interested in knowing what are the typical
> distances that people are using.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
=
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Weight and balance procedure |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi Paul.
I had about 80# on my tail wheel but a bit more on the main
wheel. If I remember it was about 810 on the main and 80 on the tail.
Total of 890# for the whole. CG was right where it should be. No fuel
and one pilot and the CG was still inside the forward limits.
Jim Nelson
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 20:22:43 -0800 "Paul McAllister"
<paul.mcallister@qia.net> writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I can't seem to find where in the manual it explains on how to go
> about doing a weight and balance. Can some one direct me. I did a
> very quick measure today and it looks like I have about 780 lbs on
> the main and about 80 lbs on the tail wheel. I will get some more
> accurate scales tomorrow.
>
> Paul
>
>
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