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1. 02:14 AM - 914 Starting tips (Graham Singleton)
2. 02:28 AM - Re: Take off power tests (Andy Draper)
3. 02:40 AM - Re: 914 Staring tips (Andy Draper)
4. 04:22 AM - Re: 914 Starting tips (Alex Kaarsberg)
5. 06:58 AM - Trike Nose Wheel Tubes. ....again. (R.C.Harrison)
6. 08:20 AM - Re: 914 Starting tips (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
7. 09:16 AM - Re: Take off power tests (Terry Seaver)
8. 09:36 AM - Re: Re: Take off power tests (Timothy.P.Ward)
9. 12:00 PM - Drop of the Hat (RMRRick@aol.com)
10. 12:19 PM - Drop of the Hat (P.A.D.Clarke)
11. 01:57 PM - ventilation (Paul Stewart)
12. 01:59 PM - pitot/static (Paul Stewart)
13. 02:13 PM - The Rumors of My Demise... (Steve & Eileen Genotte)
14. 06:05 PM - On the way to top on! (Alan Stills)
15. 08:10 PM - Re: On the way to top on! (Fergus Kyle)
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| Subject: | 914 Starting tips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 07/03/2004 -0800, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
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>All,
>
>I misspoke on my last posting. I meant to say I had used avgas (100 LL)
>fuel since the beginning.....and had 300 hours on the engine when the crud
>in the carburetors began. I've since switched to mogas. I don't know
>whether one type of fuel or the other contributes more or less to crudding.
>The factory authorized Rotax repair shop here in Florida told me that carb
>crud is a fairly common problem
It's probably caused by either a yeast or a bacteria, if the engine has
stood for a long time, or indeed the fuel in the bowser has become
infected, the organism forms a sludge. 2 strokes get it in UK apparently.
So do fishing boats, they call it a virus but I think it's more likely a yeast.
RAF jet bombers used to get it in the tropics, first noticed on Canberras
in Malaysia I remember.
Graham
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| Subject: | Take off power tests |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi Paul,
Don't do it. It's not necessary to run at full power for 5 mins, but useful to
do so for 2 minutes. If your engine runs without faltering for 2 minutes, this
would equate to you being downwind and in a position to land again should the
engine stop. If you have correctly carried out the fuel flow check (with the
regulator suitably pressurised to ensure that the return is set appropriately)
then you shouldn't really need to do this either.
Do any extended high power runs with the top cowling removed ( helps cooling) and
the aircraft tethered via the tail wheel or the main gear legs (up near the
fuselage). Expect no more than 400lbs of load on the tether.
Regards
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Subject: Europa-List: Take off power tests
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
One of the tests I wish to make it to ensure that the engine will develop full
take off power for 5 minutes. Could someone advise me on how to secure the aircraft
safely for this task.
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | 914 Staring tips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi Paul,
Ensure that the throttle is FULLY closed and that the choke is FULLY on. Continue
cranking a second or two after the engine starts to fire, if need be, and
after start, try opening the throttle (keeping the choke fully on) until you get
about 2500 rpm. It may hesitate for the first 30 secs or 1 minute. When you
have 2500rpm close the choke fully and quickly. The rpm should drop to no less
than 2000rpm.
You do need to have a good voltage, otherwise cranking may be too slow to get started
at all.
Regards
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister
Subject: Europa-List: 914 Staring tips
* Hi Paul,> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
I am sure that this has been covered before. I find mine difficult to start when
cold. Warm starts are instant. Is there an optimal choke / throttle setting
?
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Starting tips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Alex Kaarsberg <kaarsber@terra.com.br>
>
>
>It's probably caused by either a yeast or a bacteria, if the engine has
>stood for a long time, or indeed the fuel in the bowser has become
>infected, the organism forms a sludge. 2 strokes get it in UK apparently.
>So do fishing boats, they call it a virus but I think it's more likely a yeast.
>RAF jet bombers used to get it in the tropics, first noticed on Canberras
>in Malaysia I remember.
>Graham
>
>
>
Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water,
another reason to drain drain and drain the tank when its hot and humid.
I have decontaminated the tanks on an F27 once by flooding the tank with
turpentine which kills it.
Additives can be had to prevent against attacks.
Alex
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| Subject: | Trike Nose Wheel Tubes. ....again. |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Guys.
On the question of Cheng Shin Tubes and being the only supplier of 11x4.00-5 tubes,
my supplier (sorry his supplier!!) sent me a King Tire 4.10/3.5-5 Tube but
with a straight valve instead of a bent valve.
Obviously I put a "flea in their ear" and I was again told that the Cheng Shin
was the only available type. So I put the wheels in motion to get the staraight
valve replaced with a bent one, since the tube looks to be ideal and appropriately
seems to fit in the tyre like a glove..
Guess what arrived in this mornings post.......... a King Tire Tube with the bent
valve already in it. ( also made in China!)
So It would appear that there is an alternative afterall !
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Starting tips |
--> Europa-List message posted by: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com
Greetings all,
First off, I must say I have no personal experience with the 914. However, I
do own and operate a couple of powered planes, a 1965 Citabria and a 1969
Piper Pawnee. Both have Lycoming engines and I've had some troubles keeping the
batteries at peak charge when the sit for a while, particularly in cold weather,
leading to starting problems.
At the advice of the previous owner of my Pawnee, as he did with the Pawnee,
I installed an EZ Heat oil heater on my Citabria and use it even in the summer
months to get the oil up to about 140 F before starting. The heater is
usually set on a timer, so it's ready when I decide to fly. This definitely makes
a
difference! EZ Heat makes one that will fit the 912/914. They run about $125
and are very easy to install. It's just a heating pad that bonds to the bottom
of the engine and plugs into any 110v outlet. The Pawnee also has a Tanis
block heater installed. I don't think they make one for Rotax, though.
I use battery maintainers on both airplanes to keep the battery charged
without causing sulfate problems within the battery from constant charging that
a
"normal" battery charger would do. These maintainers are available in the US at
Batteries Plus for about $50. They keep the battery "peaked", but once the
peak voltage threshold is reached the charging stops. If the battery voltage
drops below a predetermined level, the charger kicks on until the battery is
peaked again. This way you have a hot battery even if the airplane has been
sitting for a while. My experience has been they've worth every penny.
Works fine, lasts a long time. Guaranteed to not rust, dust, bust or roll up
the hill backwards when provoked.
Regards,
John Lawton
Dunlap, TN
A-245
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| Subject: | Re: Take off power tests |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Paul,
For our mono-wheel XS, we tie a rope around the tail wheel axle
extensions and then park a car with a tire on the rope.
Terry Seaver
A135
Paul McAllister wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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>Hi all,
>
>One of the tests I wish to make it to ensure that the engine will develop full
take off power for 5 minutes. Could someone advise me on how to secure the aircraft
safely for this task.
>
>Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Take off power tests |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Timothy.P.Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Paul,
If you have the Europa trailer then it is perfect to do a run-up on, without the
wings and stabilators on, of course. I have done it to 3000rpm. Trailer connected
to the car, boot closed! and brake on, in PARK (automatic) To take it to
5800 for 5 mins I will, in addition, secure the tailwheel in position around
the trailer. Otherwise, as Andy said, top cowling off.
Cheers,
Tim
>
> From: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
> Date: 2004/03/09 Tue AM 06:16:22 GMT+13:00
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Take off power tests
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> For our mono-wheel XS, we tie a rope around the tail wheel axle
> extensions and then park a car with a tire on the rope.
>
> Terry Seaver
> A135
>
> Paul McAllister wrote:
>
> >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >One of the tests I wish to make it to ensure that the engine will develop full
take off power for 5 minutes. Could someone advise me on how to secure the
aircraft safely for this task.
> >
> >Thanks, Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: RMRRick@aol.com
Hi all
William and I had a great trip to Bodmin for lunch yesterday. The trip
really showed just what the Europa does best. Flying from a small farm strip 1
3/4
hours Luton to Bodmin in shitty, bumpy conditions then return to a short
field landing with 20 knots across. No problems at all for the Europa - Fabulous.
For this week (weekend) has anyone any ideas?
Rick Morris
G-RIKS Trike
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All.
Subject to the weather, I hope to make it to Shoddon for lunch tomorrow
( Tue 9th,voucher in Pilot)
Hope to see anyone else who can make it.
Cheers, Paddy Clarke
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents,
but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no
mention of them in my build manual.
Paul Stewart G-GIDY
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Having brought the pitot/static lines behind the spar to their
disconnect, how have folk routed the lines into the aircraft?
Regards
Paul Stewart G-GIDY
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| Subject: | The Rumors of My Demise... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <damnyankees@comcast.net>
...though eagerly anticipated....:-p
Paul McAllister told me how to find y'all. I know you weren't hiding, but
I've been in no shape to actually *look*, so my apologies for taking so long
to get here.
Long story short: N8690E is back to getting built - the top will be bonded
on soon (thanks to the lads at Flightcrafters) and I'm rounding up the parts
for the instrument panel. In fact, the Rocky Mountain microEncoder and
microMonitor kits are in my front room right now. Once I get a few inflamed
vertebrae healed (yes, it's always something), the soldering will commence.
The website is still up, though not much by way of updates just yet:
http://home.comcast.net/~damnyankees/Mainpage.htm
I have another website that's of a purely commercial nature; feel free to
email me at Admin@protacglobal.com for details, I shan't advertise it here.
Steve "El Roto" Genotte
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| Subject: | On the way to top on! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
ELT installed and flashers for the strobes installed, both under the baggage bay.
Have to get some clips to install the ELT antenna on back of the baggage bay.
Also made up the Bid for the top of the counterbalance in the back bay and
now have to mount on a removable ply to bolt to the counterbalance guide. The
Tr-gear fork is on the way so will install that this week as soon as it gets
in, also the shimmy damper mod. Waiting on the F09D to get here to install the
drain valves. Plan on recessing into the bottom of the plane so it doesn't hang
out in the wind but will have to wait to see the F09D first before deciding
how or where to put. Also Andair gascolator on back order from Aircraft Spruce
and didn't find anyone else with it in stock.The top is getting closer to going
on all the time. I also redux'd in 2 2x4 supports onto the sidewall just below
the joint so I could put one in the back across the bay to have something
to lay on while working back there. Don't really relish the thought of crawling
back there but will have some time there and wanted the support so I didn't
have to lay on anything. I know there's a lot left to do but it gets more exciting
all the time as progress is made.
Al Stills
A095
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| Subject: | Re: On the way to top on! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: On the way to top on!
I also redux'd in 2 2x4 supports onto the sidewall just below the joint so
I could put one in the back across the bay to have something to lay on while
working back there. | A095
Al,
Sounds great - you're getting ahead of me - I'm not yet ready to
put the top on, but stumbling toward it.
One word of caution though, and I'm sure Andy at Europa would
agree with me:
I shouldn't lay on a 2 x 4 -especially while working.
[1] It doesn't give proper attention to the work or the lay, and
[2] You may regret it forever if you were to tumble off the 2 x 4.
It should be perfectly Ok to lie on it though.
Ferg
A064
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