---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/09/04: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:46 AM - Damaged Port Radiator Monowheel-Classic (Tim Ward) 2. 02:14 AM - Re: Damaged Port Radiator Monowheel-Classic (Andy Draper) 3. 02:20 AM - Re: ventilation (Andy Draper) 4. 02:22 AM - Re: pitot/static (Andy Draper) 5. 03:01 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 (Graham Singleton) 6. 03:13 AM - Re: ventilation (David Joyce) 7. 03:42 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 (Alex Kaarsberg) 8. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 (Brian Davies) 9. 08:35 AM - 912UL for sale (Dan Bish) 10. 09:57 AM - Re: On the way to top on! (n3eu@comcast.net) 11. 11:58 AM - Re: ventilation (Richard) 12. 12:23 PM - Re: ventilation (Jeff Roberts) 13. 12:45 PM - Re: ventilation-NACA (Fergus Kyle) 14. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 (Kingsley Hurst) 15. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 (David Glauser) 16. 03:48 PM - Re: ventilation (KARL HEINDL) 17. 05:18 PM - Re: On the way to top on! (James Nelson) 18. 05:31 PM - Re: On the way to top on! (Alan Stills) 19. 08:21 PM - Re: ventilation (Fergus Kyle) 20. 08:24 PM - Warp Drive blades (Steve Hagar) 21. 08:36 PM - Re: On the way to top on! (Fergus Kyle) 22. 08:41 PM - Re: The Rumors of My Demise... (Fergus Kyle) 23. 09:39 PM - Re: Warp Drive blades (Paul Boulet) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:52 AM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Europa-List: Damaged Port Radiator Monowheel-Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" After bursting the Rotax 912S into life it appears I may have a damaged port water coolant radiator. I small leak. Does any builder out there have a port radiator (Monowheel Classic) that I can buy, and for that matter, a starboard one if they want to get rid of both. I am off to Londontown this Saturday via LAX so easy to pick up. Cheers, Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:42 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Damaged Port Radiator Monowheel-Classic From: "Andy Draper" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Tim, These radiators are still available through the factory if you are unable to find second hand ones. Please refer to the catalogue. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ward Subject: Europa-List: Damaged Port Radiator Monowheel-Classic --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" After bursting the Rotax 912S into life it appears I may have a damaged port water coolant radiator. I small leak. Does any builder out there have a port radiator (Monowheel Classic) that I can buy, and for that matter, a starboard one if they want to get rid of both. I am off to Londontown this Saturday via LAX so easy to pick up. Cheers, Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph 0064 3 3515166 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:50 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: ventilation From: "Andy Draper" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Paul, I have a sheet detailing NACA scoop installation that should have accompanied the parts. Please let me have a fax number and I'll send it straight away. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents, but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no mention of them in my build manual. Paul Stewart G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:37 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: pitot/static From: "Andy Draper" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" Dear Paul, I have details for this that are going out in the forthcoming newsletter. I'll fax this at the same time as the NACA stuff if you wish. Regards Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: pitot/static --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Having brought the pitot/static lines behind the spar to their disconnect, how have folk routed the lines into the aircraft? Regards Paul Stewart G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:14 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 08/03/2004 -0800, you wrote: >From: Alex Kaarsberg >Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Starting tips > >It's probably caused by either a yeast or a bacteria, if the engine has > >stood for a long time, or indeed the fuel in the bowser has become > >infected, the organism forms a sludge. 2 strokes get it in UK apparently. > >So do fishing boats, they call it a virus but I think it's more likely a > yeast. > >RAF jet bombers used to get it in the tropics, first noticed on Canberras > >in Malaysia I remember. > >Graham > > > > > > >Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water, >another reason to drain drain and drain the tank when its hot and humid. >I have decontaminated the tanks on an F27 once by flooding the tank with >turpentine which kills it. >Additives can be had to prevent against attacks. > >Alex Alex This is just the sort of thing worth learning about, thanks for that. Where would one look to buy the additives? Graham ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:16 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" Paul, The instructions came on bits of paper with the vents as I remember. I still have mine and could send you copies if you cannot locate them. David Joyce. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: ventilation > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > > I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents, > but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no > mention of them in my build manual. > > Paul Stewart G-GIDY > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned using the CleanPort MEF antivirus > system. Funded for members by the Doctors.net.uk Bulletin service > How does this protect me? http://www.Doctors.net.uk/qualityemail > ________________________________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:52 AM PST US From: Alex Kaarsberg Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: Alex Kaarsberg > > >>Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water, >>another reason to drain drain and drain the tank when its hot and humid. >>I have decontaminated the tanks on an F27 once by flooding the tank with >>turpentine which kills it. >>Additives can be had to prevent against attacks. >> >>Alex >> >> > >Alex >This is just the sort of thing worth learning about, thanks for that. >Where would one look to buy the additives? >Graham > > If you live in an area where this fungus may pose a problem you should be able to get it from your fuel supplier. It is so long ago I last saw the product I dont remember the name but it is a fungicide and comes with elaborate mixing instructions- some have a contraption to allow the application directly in the refuel hose. I know this fungus lives on jet fuel, but not if it is the same that may live in gasoline/petrol... Hope it helps somehow, Alex ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:01 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" I thought this fungus only grew in jet fuel, not in Avgas or Mogas,and only in hot/humid conditions. Brian Davies kit 454 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Singleton" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 > --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton > > At 23:56 08/03/2004 -0800, you wrote: > >From: Alex Kaarsberg > >Subject: Re: Europa-List: 914 Starting tips > > >It's probably caused by either a yeast or a bacteria, if the engine has > > >stood for a long time, or indeed the fuel in the bowser has become > > >infected, the organism forms a sludge. 2 strokes get it in UK apparently. > > >So do fishing boats, they call it a virus but I think it's more likely a > > yeast. > > >RAF jet bombers used to get it in the tropics, first noticed on Canberras > > >in Malaysia I remember. > > >Graham > > > > > > > > > > >Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water, > >another reason to drain drain and drain the tank when its hot and humid. > >I have decontaminated the tanks on an F27 once by flooding the tank with > >turpentine which kills it. > >Additives can be had to prevent against attacks. > > > >Alex > > Alex > This is just the sort of thing worth learning about, thanks for that. > Where would one look to buy the additives? > Graham > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:16 AM PST US From: "Dan Bish" Subject: Europa-List: 912UL for sale --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dan Bish" Just saw a 912UL come up on EBay if anyone's interested. Zero time and an $8500 "Buy-It-Now" option. If anyone's interested, try this link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item3D2465704742&sspagename3DADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1 Installing a 914 myself but thought someone here might have an interest. Dan A144 Tucson, AZ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:30 AM PST US From: n3eu@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: On the way to top on! --> Europa-List message posted by: n3eu@comcast.net > I also redux'd in 2 2x4 supports onto the sidewall just below the > joint so I could put one in the back across the bay to have something > to lay on while working back there. If this arrangement is permanent, it means weight, To those of the "few ounces here, few ounces there, and pretty soon..." frame-of-mind, consider something temporary. For this purpose, I squirreled away styrofoam "peanuts" in heavy-duty trash bags. I place them back there, then lay a couch cushion on top. Main idea is just to prevent any significant pressure on the big pitch tube. Regards, Fred F. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:58:22 AM PST US From: "Richard" Subject: RE: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" Paul, I worked out the position from pictures and advice from the factory then cut the holes to suit the bit which ends up flush with the outer skin. Positioned them in the holes with runny flox and laid up two bid layers round the edges inside to fix them. I asked a similar question before doing this and had several members who advised me not to fit them but to look for alternative ventilation. I did fit them but the threaded peg on which the 'nut' turns on both sides has broken and had to be fixed. If doing it again I would probably look for something else. I feel they are a poor design. Regards. Richard Iddon. G-RIXS (just completing 25 hours service). -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart --> I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents, but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no mention of them in my build manual. Paul Stewart G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: ventilation From: Jeff Roberts --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts on 3/9/04 2:58 PM, Richard at riddon@btinternet.com wrote: I > did fit them but the threaded peg on which the 'nut' turns on both sides > has broken and had to be fixed. If doing it again I would probably look > for something else. I feel they are a poor design. > The functional design of these seams to be a good one. Has anyone ever tried to machine a metal replacement for the plastic nut and screw that continues to break. Jeff A258 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:45:12 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: ventilation-NACA --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" Subject: RE: Europa-List: ventilation | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" | | Paul, | | I worked out the position from pictures and advice from the factory then | cut the holes to suit the bit which ends up flush with the outer skin. | Positioned them in the holes with runny flox and laid up two bid layers | round the edges inside to fix them. | | I asked a similar question before doing this and had several members who | advised me not to fit them but to look for alternative ventilation. I | did fit them but the threaded peg on which the 'nut' turns on both sides | has broken and had to be fixed. If doing it again I would probably look | for something else. I feel they are a poor design. | | Regards. | | Richard Iddon. G-RIXS (just completing 25 hours service). | | | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com | [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul | Stewart | To: europa-list@matronics.com | Subject: Europa-List: ventilation | --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart | --> | I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents, | but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no | mention of them in my build manual. | Paul Stewart G-GIDY Hey, team: I realise now that the discussion centres around the "NACA" ducts sold by someone (ASpruce?mebbe) and used by many in the Europa. I humbly suggest a look at those designed from the originals - which were used as engine intakes for the F93 (hardnosed Sabre) version of the oldF86. these were a good size naturally and worked a treat, so the rumour that they're no good is strictly applicable to the commercialk version, not the original. The ones I';ve seen violate the general rules for ratio of width to length and cannot be as efficient as those drawn by Rutan and most efficient. A copy of the design (and relative station dimensions is on tap at John Cliff's site, http://www.crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk/europa.htm , under I think "miscellaneous" items. You can design and build any size any shape within the 'rules' that Rutan laid down in his training book. Don't GIVE UP THE SHIP! Ferg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:40:51 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water........................ Graham Singleton wrote : This is just the sort of thing worth learning about, thanks for that. Where would one look to buy the additives? Graham, Correct me if I am wrong but from what I remember reading many moons ago (probably about 325 ago) in an 'Aviation Safety Digest', I think the fungus phenomenon might only apply to jet fuel. Regards Kingsley ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:30 PM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 From: "David Glauser" --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Glauser" From http://www.conidia.com/hormonconis_resinae.html we get: Micro organisms can grow in certain fuels by using the alkanes in the fuel as a foodstuff. In some cases, they may be able to utilise some of the additives in the fuel. Mid to light distillate fuels are particularly susceptible to contamination by micro-organisms, although more recently there are increasing reports of gasoline being affected, particularly some of the more "environmentally friendly" products. Search Googls on fungus in fuel and get lots of interesting reading... dg -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" > Its a fungus and it lives in the interface between fuel and water........................ Graham Singleton wrote : This is just the sort of thing worth learning about, thanks for that. Where would one look to buy the additives? Graham, Correct me if I am wrong but from what I remember reading many moons ago (probably about 325 ago) in an 'Aviation Safety Digest', I think the fungus phenomenon might only apply to jet fuel. Regards Kingsley ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:41 PM PST US From: "KARL HEINDL" Subject: RE: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" Richard, You say that you managed to fix the broken threads, but didn't tell us how you did it. Mine also broke shortly after installation. Karl From: "Richard" Subject: RE: Europa-List: ventilation -- Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" Paul, I worked out the position from pictures and advice from the factory then cut the holes to suit the bit which ends up flush with the outer skin. Positioned them in the holes with runny flox and laid up two bid layers round the edges inside to fix them. I asked a similar question before doing this and had several members who advised me not to fit them but to look for alternative ventilation.I did fit them but the threaded peg on which the 'nut' turns on both sides has broken and had to be fixed.If doing it again I would probably look for something else.I feel they are a poor design. Regards. Richard Iddon. G-RIXS (just completing 25 hours service). -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: ventilation -- Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart -- I know there has been much discussion about the merit of the NACA vents, but has anyone seen any instructions on their fitting - there is no mention of them in my build manual. Paul StewartG-GIDY Stay in touch better and keep protected online with MSNs NEW all-in-one Premium Services. Find out more here. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:35 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: On the way to top on! From: James Nelson --> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson Ferg, Actually I think he is talking about a 2 x 4 across the fuselage (side to side). I did the same but used a 1 x 4 on each side. Then a 1 x 12 as the belly board to slide in and out. Yes I had to do it several times so be prepared. Also, do EVERYTHING you can possible do BEFORE you put the top on. It makes things so much easier. Do all the wiring and anything else. Then put the top on. Jim On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:14:22 -0500 "Fergus Kyle" writes: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Stills" > To: > Subject: Europa-List: On the way to top on! > I also redux'd in 2 2x4 supports onto the sidewall just below the > joint so > I could put one in the back across the bay to have something to lay > on while > working back there. | A095 > > Al, > Sounds great - you're getting ahead of me - I'm not yet > ready to > put the top on, but stumbling toward it. > One word of caution though, and I'm sure Andy at Europa > would > agree with me: > I shouldn't lay on a 2 x 4 -especially while working. > [1] It doesn't give proper attention to the work or the lay, > and > [2] You may regret it forever if you were to tumble off the 2 x > 4. > It should be perfectly Ok to lie on it though. > Ferg > A064 > > > = > = > = > = > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 05:31:05 PM PST US From: "Alan Stills" Subject: Re: Europa-List: On the way to top on! --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" Yes I did mean a 2x4 upright edgewise across the fuse. But I am only reduxing in a "joist hanger" so there will be no 2x4 in the fuse unless I need it. The joist hangers (metal) are open at the top. I've redux'ed them to the side wall and will apply several layers of bid around it to strenthgen it so it holds when I place a 2x4 across it. Bye the way I just recieved my nosewheel fork and will be finally installing the nose wheel so it can finally roll free. Al Stills A095 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:21:59 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: ventilation --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Roberts" Subject: Re: Europa-List: ventilation | --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts | | on 3/9/04 2:58 PM, Richard at riddon@btinternet.com wrote: | | | I | > did fit them but the threaded peg on which the 'nut' turns on both sides | > has broken and had to be fixed. If doing it again I would probably look | > for something else. I feel they are a poor design. | The functional design of these seams to be a good one. Has anyone ever tried | to machine a metal replacement for the plastic nut and screw that continues | to break. | Jeff | A258 Cheers, I replied to similar over another thread. the duct itself is a proven design, and I copied mine from a Rutan drawing of the original. It became a 10"x3" inlet and works even at slow speeds (automobile test). The inlet at that size feeds a sympathetic 2" duct exactly. I made mine from a Cedar plug which takes wax very well and will produce several copies very easily - then make a 3"x1" recangular to 2" diameter circular cross-section to fit the ducting. Produces a very strong current of air which can be throttled or otherwise controlled for cockpit hot/cold. http://www.crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk/Misc/Misc.htm Cheers Ferg ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:28 PM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" Subject: Europa-List: Warp Drive blades --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" Due to a ground handling boo boo I got an ouch on one of my warp drive blades. I roughed up the trailing edge of one of the blade tips. As a consequence about a 1/4" x 3/8" of that corner is now gone. I dresesed it and smoothed it with some sandpaper. The question now is : Is this significant? Do I make the other blades look like this? Do I not worry about it till I balance the prop and take care of it with prop hub weights? Steve (Starting to get burned out) Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:17 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: On the way to top on! --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" James, Actually I was being fascetious as hell. More later. Thank you for the plan to live inside the @#$% fuselage. I remember Tony k commenting on the extreme discomfort. My comment produced a bright idea from one of the guys who filled a couple of doubled trash bags with those expanded worms they use for shipping, and then laid a cushion over top - giving great comfort - so will ape that. My original response was a snotty attempt at humour - drawing the difference between lie-lay-lain and lay-laid-laid, grammar that seems to escaped most in the last twenty years. Perhaps a second scan of the message might amuse....... Perhaps not. Guilty as charged. Ferg PS Thanks for the trouble.............. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Nelson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: On the way to top on! | --> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson | | Ferg, | Actually I think he is talking about a 2 x 4 across the fuselage | (side to side). I did the same but used a 1 x 4 on each side. Then a 1 | x 12 as the belly board to slide in and out. Yes I had to do it several | times so be prepared. Also, do EVERYTHING you can possible do BEFORE | you put the top on. It makes things so much easier. Do all the wiring | and anything else. Then put the top on. | | | Jim | | | On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:14:22 -0500 "Fergus Kyle" writes: | > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Alan Stills" | > To: | > Subject: Europa-List: On the way to top on! | > I also redux'd in 2 2x4 supports onto the sidewall just below the | > joint so | > I could put one in the back across the bay to have something to lay | > on while | > working back there. | A095 | > | > Al, | > Sounds great - you're getting ahead of me - I'm not yet | > ready to | > put the top on, but stumbling toward it. | > One word of caution though, and I'm sure Andy at Europa | > would | > agree with me: | > I shouldn't lay on a 2 x 4 -especially while working. | > [1] It doesn't give proper attention to the work or the lay, | > and | > [2] You may regret it forever if you were to tumble off the 2 x | > 4. | > It should be perfectly Ok to lie on it though. | > Ferg | > A064 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:41:08 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Rumors of My Demise... --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" Subject: Europa-List: The Rumors of My Demise... | --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" | | ...though eagerly anticipated....:-p | | Paul McAllister told me how to find y'all. I know you weren't hiding, but | I've been in no shape to actually *look*, so my apologies for taking so long | to get here. | | Long story short: N8690E is back to getting built - the top will be bonded | on soon (thanks to the lads at Flightcrafters) and I'm rounding up the parts | for the instrument panel. In fact, the Rocky Mountain microEncoder and | microMonitor kits are in my front room right now. Once I get a few inflamed | vertebrae healed (yes, it's always something), the soldering will commence. | | The website is still up, though not much by way of updates just yet: | http://home.comcast.net/~damnyankees/Mainpage.htm | | I have another website that's of a purely commercial nature; feel free to | email me at Admin@protacglobal.com for details, I shan't advertise it here. | | Steve "El Roto" Genotte Keep kickin', Steve! Ferg ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:39:35 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: Warp Drive blades --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Boulet Hang in there Steve. altho I don't have an answer on the warp drive blade i do know about burnout...that's where it's such a great asset to have builder's help almost next door to you (Phoenix Composites). Don't hesitate to call on them...they can do as little or as much as you like at a very low cost... I never would of finished without them Paul Boulet, N914PB Awaiting Rocky Mtn instrument replacement so I can start my flite testing Steve Hagar wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" Due to a ground handling boo boo I got an ouch on one of my warp drive blades. I roughed up the trailing edge of one of the blade tips. As a consequence about a 1/4" x 3/8" of that corner is now gone. I dresesed it and smoothed it with some sandpaper. The question now is : Is this significant? Do I make the other blades look like this? Do I not worry about it till I balance the prop and take care of it with prop hub weights? Steve (Starting to get burned out) Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net