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1. 02:13 AM - Condor Tyres/4 or 6 ply/30 or 50 psi????? (Tony Renshaw)
2. 06:11 AM - Warp Drive blades (Graham Singleton)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: WooooooHoooooooo! (ScramIt@aol.com)
4. 09:03 AM - Re: WooooooHoooooooo! (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
5. 11:26 AM - eyeball vents (Paul Stewart)
6. 11:29 AM - Re: Condor Tyres/4 or 6 ply/30 or 50 psi????? (Ami McFadyean)
7. 01:12 PM - Re: WooooooHoooooooo! (Steve & Eileen Genotte)
8. 02:44 PM - Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) (Cory Emberson)
9. 03:00 PM - Wing root layups (ScramIt@aol.com)
10. 03:42 PM - Re: WooooooHoooooooo! (Cliff Shaw)
11. 04:15 PM - Re: eyeball vents (James Nelson)
12. 06:31 PM - Re: eyeball vents (KARL HEINDL)
13. 07:35 PM - Re: eyeball vents (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Condor Tyres/4 or 6 ply/30 or 50 psi????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Gidday,
For a conventional taildragger I can easily get Michelin Condors delivered
to my house within a few days. Any of the other tyres may take a while, and
I am keen to get a set sooner rather than later. Any impressions on rubber
for conventionals/tri mains?
Also, I reckon 4 ply with a lower psi of only 30 vs 6 ply and 50, with a
specific wheel load of 800lbs per wheel vs 1285, is the better option, if
for no other reason than it is easier to get 30 psi out of a foot/hand
pump. So, does anyone reckon 30psi/800 lb wheel loads is inadaquate.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Australia
Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger (possibly convertible)
Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
Instrumentation: Undecided
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| Subject: | Warp Drive blades |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
At 23:56 12/03/2004 -0800, you wrote:
> Hi All,
>In theory, yes, in practice, no.
>On my F2A control line speed model, I have a ONE BLADE prop, with a lead
>counter
>balance held captive in a steel housing, on a good day that runs at 39,000
>RPM.............
>Cheers,
>Nev.
Unfortunately it will be impossible to balance out the yaw induced by the
blade. Won't matter at 39,000 but at a more efficient 1800 rpm the
vibration would be awful.
Even two blade props can't be balanced for the yaw, it has to be three or
more.
Graham
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| Subject: | WooooooHoooooooo! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
Welcome, living near Bob and Cliff is great, you have two build experts at
hand.
> I guess now I will have to learn how to build a web page.
Nope, We took care of that one for you, once registered, all you have to do
is Zip your photos and hit Upload.
Here's the link, 1800 Europa photos and counting......
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/
SteveD
A217
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| Subject: | Re: WooooooHoooooooo! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Welcome Rob. Did you get any of the quick build options? Where are you
located?
Brian in Texas
Do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Anyone know what the difference is between the eyeball vents sold by
aircraft spruce? They have two aliminium swivel vents one at $55.50 (pn
05-00779) and the other at $172.95! (pn 13-03600). Unfortunately there
is only a picture of the cheaper one on their web site.
Regards
Paul Stewart G-GIDY
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| Subject: | Re: Condor Tyres/4 or 6 ply/30 or 50 psi????? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Actually, I run mine at 20 to 25 PSI. More than that and they tend to bounce
to easily; less than that and they start to creep on the rims. Mine are
el-cheapo Airtracs, which are just starting to wear slightly more on the
outside (due to camber) than the inside; time to turn them over. This is
after 170 hours and about the same number of landings, of which approx 60%
on tarmac and 40% on grass.
Prognosis would therefore be in excess of 600 hours/set, providing the
casing doesn't go first.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Condor Tyres/4 or 6 ply/30 or 50 psi?????
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> For a conventional taildragger I can easily get Michelin Condors delivered
> to my house within a few days. Any of the other tyres may take a while,
and
> I am keen to get a set sooner rather than later. Any impressions on rubber
> for conventionals/tri mains?
> Also, I reckon 4 ply with a lower psi of only 30 vs 6 ply and 50, with a
> specific wheel load of 800lbs per wheel vs 1285, is the better option, if
> for no other reason than it is easier to get 30 psi out of a foot/hand
> pump. So, does anyone reckon 30psi/800 lb wheel loads is inadaquate.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger (possibly convertible)
> Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
> Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
> Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
> Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
> Instrumentation: Undecided
>
>
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| Subject: | WooooooHoooooooo! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <damnyankees@comcast.net>
You live between Cliff and Bob??
You poor soul. You never had a chance.
;-P
Steve "El Roto" G.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rob
Subject: RE: Europa-List: WooooooHoooooooo!
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob" <rob@evergreensecurity.com>
OK here are the stats.
I live in Everett WA between Cliff Shaw and Bob Jacobsen.
<snip>
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| Subject: | Request: Information for Kitplanes Article (Interiors/Exteriors) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cory Emberson" <bootless@earthlink.net>
Hello Europa builders and pilots!
First, thank you for your wonderful response to my request for examples of terrific
panels - I expect that a Europa will be included in the June 2004 issue.
I am writing another article for Kitplanes magazine that will feature builders
who have distinctive interiors and/or exteriors.
My deadline is rather short, so if you could email me as soon as possible, hopefully
by Tuesday, that will give me enough time to put it together.
Here are some of the criteria I'm looking for:
Interiors that are (one or any combination):
1. creative
2. inexpensive
3. very comfortable
4. lightweight
5. generally cool and different
6. distinctive in some way.
Exteriors that are:
1.. stunningly attractive
2.. original design
3.. historically accurate
4.. distinctive in some way
Other things to keep in mind:
1. How you came to design your interior/exterior (How you got your idea)
2. The reasons why you did it as you did
3. What benefits you had in mind
4. Any unexpected benefits (and/or pitfalls) there were
5. What you learned
6. How many hours you've flown with it (if completed)
7. How much of the work did you do yourself?
8. Did you have any professional assistance? How much?
9. The equipment and tools you used
10. How much time it took to build and install
11. The cost of building it.
12. Would you do it again the same way? Why?
Here are the photo requirements for Kitplanes: Photos must be 300 dpi at a size
large enough to use in the magazine, which is usually at least 3 x 3 inches.
If an image is 300 dpi at 1 x 1 inch, it won't be big enough to do any good. Hard
copy photos are good, too.
Thanks so much - I really appreciate your help!
best regards,
Cory Emberson
Hayward, CA [KHWD]
510.599.4409
cory@lightspeededit.com
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| Subject: | Wing root layups |
--> Europa-List message posted by: ScramIt@aol.com
Well, while reviewing the photos in the gallery, I noticed that others' wing
root lay-ups are much larger than mine. (My wife thought that last line was
hilarious) Then I reviewed what I had done. It would appear that once I removed
the peel-ply, I got locked in to thinking that was the size of the lay-up.
Look at the attached photos. Do I need to extend my reinforcements?
Remember you have to be logged in to view attachments. I'm working on
changing that.
http://forum.okhuijsen.org/viewtopic.php?t=49
Thanks,
Steved.
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| Subject: | Re: WooooooHoooooooo! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
You are right !
We both worked on Rob. I told him how woderful the kit is, and Bob told him
how easy it is to build.
Do Not Archive
Cliff Shaw
1041 Euclid ave.
Edmonds, WA 98020
425 776 5555
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <damnyankees@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: WooooooHoooooooo!
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte"
<damnyankees@comcast.net>
>
> You live between Cliff and Bob??
>
> You poor soul. You never had a chance.
>
> ;-P
>
> Steve "El Roto" G.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rob
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: WooooooHoooooooo!
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Rob" <rob@evergreensecurity.com>
>
>
> OK here are the stats.
> I live in Everett WA between Cliff Shaw and Bob Jacobsen.
> <snip>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: eyeball vents |
--> Europa-List message posted by: James Nelson <europajim@juno.com>
Hi Paul,
I believe one is plastic and the other is aluminum. Bought them
both and never installed the plastic ones. I used the Van's NACA ramp to
feed the 1" eye ball and it provides lots of air.
Jim
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:25:20 +0000 Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
writes:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Anyone know what the difference is between the eyeball vents sold by
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> aircraft spruce? They have two aliminium swivel vents one at $55.50
> (pn
> 05-00779) and the other at $172.95! (pn 13-03600). Unfortunately
> there
> is only a picture of the cheaper one on their web site.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Stewart G-GIDY
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
I just installed the cheaper one in the top of the left footwell as the first building
block in my cabin heat supply. It is black anodized aluminum and it seems
to be fine. It provides full control from open to close and swivels. I don't
understand why any of these things cost more than 10 dollars.
Karl
From: Paul Stewart <EUROPA@PSTEWART.F2S.COM>
Subject: Europa-List: eyeball vents
-- Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <EUROPA@PSTEWART.F2S.COM>
Anyone know what the difference is between the eyeball vents sold by
aircraft spruce? They have two aliminium swivel vents one at $55.50 (pn
05-00779) and the other at $172.95! (pn 13-03600). Unfortunately there
is only a picture ofthe cheaper one on their web site.
Regards
Paul StewartG-GIDY
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| Subject: | Re: eyeball vents |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Paul
I bought the cheaper variety and they seem quite fine to me.
Paul McAllister
Europa 363, Taxi testing and getting ready for the final inspection!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stewart" <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Subject: Europa-List: eyeball vents
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Anyone know what the difference is between the eyeball vents sold by
> aircraft spruce? They have two aliminium swivel vents one at $55.50 (pn
> 05-00779) and the other at $172.95! (pn 13-03600). Unfortunately there
> is only a picture of the cheaper one on their web site.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul Stewart G-GIDY
>
>
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