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1. 12:35 AM - Re: Europa Finger Brake Master Cylinder Brand???? (ivor.phillips)
2. 02:43 AM - Re: ZU CTG First Flight (mike toft)
3. 03:04 AM - Re: ZU CTG First Flight (R.C.Harrison)
4. 07:36 AM - Blue Wing Plumbing SteveD (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
5. 12:31 PM - All Europa Mods & Service Bulletins on the internet (Europa Aircraft)
6. 07:00 PM - Brake shims ?? (John & Paddy Wigney)
7. 09:27 PM - Re: Blue Wing Plumbing SteveD (Steve & Eileen Genotte)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Finger Brake Master Cylinder Brand???? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
At this Moment the only fluid suitable for both the master and brake
calipers is SILICONE FLUID (DOT5) do not use( DOT 5.1) which will destroy
the seals in the calipers,
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed,working on rudder cables,
trial fit top and wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Renshaw" <tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Europa-List: Europa Finger Brake Master Cylinder Brand????
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday,
> I have a Europa dual cylinder master cylinder for finger brakes, but it is
> not stamped with a manufacturers name, and therefore I cannot find out
what
> type of lubricant is OK to put down the bores to loosen things up, and
also
> for the future I'd like to find out who can supply seals, and how to gain
> access to them. So, any ideas???? Anyone else who has installed these in a
> Classic module, I'd like to hear from.
>
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger (possibly convertible)
> Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
> Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
> Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
> Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
> Instrumentation: Undecided
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ZU CTG First Flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "mike toft" <watervet@mweb.co.za>
Hi Rowland
Empty weight was rather heavy probably due to all the "extras" in the panel
929 lbs with battery 27 amp hr in baggage bay and a c of g 59.39 inches
without any addition of weight etc. So far have flown 3,7 hours and still
smiling. Flew out of Cato Ridge airfield near Durban.
Will send you some photos and more information shortly .
Regards Mike Toft
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: ZU CTG First Flight
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2004 03 16 12:40 +0200 mike toft wrote:
>
> >ZU-
> >CTG took to the South African skies at 9 am yesterday
>
> Mike - congratulations and many happy landings in the future. For the
> record, what is the empty weight, and what field did the first flight
> take place from?
>
> Don't forget to give me feedback on your hours occasionally for the
> fleet hours table.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: ZU CTG First Flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Well done Mike.
You must have some fantastic terrain to over fly around you.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike toft" <watervet@mweb.co.za>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: ZU CTG First Flight
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "mike toft" <watervet@mweb.co.za>
>
> Hi Rowland
>
> Empty weight was rather heavy probably due to all the "extras" in the
panel
> 929 lbs with battery 27 amp hr in baggage bay and a c of g 59.39 inches
> without any addition of weight etc. So far have flown 3,7 hours and still
> smiling. Flew out of Cato Ridge airfield near Durban.
> Will send you some photos and more information shortly .
> Regards Mike Toft
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: ZU CTG First Flight
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
> >
> > At 2004 03 16 12:40 +0200 mike toft wrote:
> >
> > >ZU-
> > >CTG took to the South African skies at 9 am yesterday
> >
> > Mike - congratulations and many happy landings in the future. For the
> > record, what is the empty weight, and what field did the first flight
> > take place from?
> >
> > Don't forget to give me feedback on your hours occasionally for the
> > fleet hours table.
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Rowland
> > --
> >
> > | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
> > | Europa 435 G-ROWI (660 hours building) PFA #16532
> > | e-mail <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> website <www.europaclub.org.uk>
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Blue Wing Plumbing SteveD |
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Howdy Steve:
It's pitot tube plumbing time. Going to go to home depot today and get fancy
blue corrugated electrical conduit. I noticed that Wile E used regular thin
wall PVC. Any particular reason that you used the corrugated stuff?
Looks like you are using 1/2 size and terminating the ends with the cap
fittings for the tubing?
How are you attaching the conduit to the through ribs or are you? Redux? Bid
and epoxy?
I also noted the nifty wood brackets around the inspection plate. Scrap
from the supplied 1/8 ply with bid?
Also you have chosen to epoxy the pitot line into the bracket rather than
just coming out of the conduit. My guess it to prevent entanglement of the
bellcrank.
If I understood an earlier email the you are going to attach this conduit to
the floor of the wing with Redux to prevent flopping around. From the photos
the conduit appears to be well above the floor. Is this still going to be
done?
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| Subject: | All Europa Mods & Service Bulletins on the internet |
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Hi All,
I still get a lot of requests for information about mods & service
bulletins. They are all posted on the Builder Support section of the Europa
web site.
See:
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/Builder%20Support/newsupport.htm
Happy Building & Flying!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard
Holder
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Finger Brakes Mechanical Advantage
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Tony
I am currently using the original brake master cylinders in the centre
console. Originally it was set up using two "Mono" brake levers, but that
didn't provide enough leverage. Now it has a trigear -foot-pedal level (not
straight) on the end of the straight mono levers.
It works well enough, but takes quite a big pull. As the platform inside was
set up for the mono levers the two bolts joining the levels together are
above the top of the console.
I am planning to use the Mod 65 dual master cylinder and have had permission
now to combine my original mod platform with the mod 65 master cylinders.
The levers for that will be an experiment when I see what I get when I buy
them !
I can measure it all up for you if you want.
Richard
Richard F.W. Holder 01279 842804 (POTS)
Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842942 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : rholder@avnet.co.uk
Europa Classic Tri-gear : G-OWWW, EGSG (Stapleford)
PA-28-181 : Piper Archer : G-JANA, EGSG (Stapleford)
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au>
>
> Gidday tri gear owners,
> I am keen to find out the ideal length of the levers. I was once told I
> think 6" from pivot to hole for handle, but I'd like that verified. Also,
> I'd like to know as well the height most recommended for knuckle clearance
> etc from the top of the tunnel, that will predetermine the depth of which
I
> mount the master cylinders. I have a module not yet in my a/c, and even
> when I rest it in place my cross bracing does not allow me the opportunity
> to sit in and determine the ideal position, so location is also an issue,
> so I might just have to take an educated guess on that one, unless a
> suggestion or two comes my way. So, if anyone has any dimensions handy,
I'd
> love them.
>
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Australia
>
> Classic 236 B.B. Taildragger (possibly convertible)
> Tail, Wings, Ailerons, Flaps Complete and Connected
> Lower Fuse in Jig, Tail Torque Tube installed
> Mass Balance assembly installed and deflections sorted
> Intended Engine: 912S CS prop (model undecided)
> Instrumentation: Undecided
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
I am busy with my annual inspection and have just removed my brake
caliper. The pads as usual are showing some wear and I will replace them
no problem. However, I have noticed on this and previous occasions
that the pads wear more heavily at the outer edge due, no doubt, to the
fact that about 30% of the piston area does not bear on the LG23
pressure plate. This causes the piston to skew and apply uneven pressure
to the plate and pad.
Coincidently, I have just read Peter Waughs article in the March 2004
Europa Flyer and saw a reference to brake shims. I have not seen any
reference to such items before and I am wondering if these are intended
to fix the uneven wear problem. Could somebody please explain what these
'brake shims' are ??
Cheers, John
N262WF
Mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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| Subject: | Blue Wing Plumbing SteveD |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve & Eileen Genotte" <damnyankees@comcast.net>
Not being SteveD, but SteveG, I'd like to add my 2 cents to this (someone
else can work out what that comes to in Euros).
I used the same tubing, anchoring it with tie wraps attached to the wing
panel via Click Bond tie-wrap bases. You can order these and lots of other
Click Bond products from the fine folks at http://www.theflightshop.com.
For the (sad) details on my skills in doing same, allow me to refer you to
http://home.comcast.net/~damnyankees/Wingpage.htm; the relevant section is
about halfway down the page.
I hope this helps.
Steve "El Roto" Genotte
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Subject: Europa-List: Blue Wing Plumbing SteveD
--> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Howdy Steve:
It's pitot tube plumbing time. Going to go to home depot today and get
fancy
blue corrugated electrical conduit. I noticed that Wile E used regular thin
wall PVC. Any particular reason that you used the corrugated stuff?
Looks like you are using 1/2 size and terminating the ends with the cap
fittings for the tubing?
How are you attaching the conduit to the through ribs or are you? Redux? Bid
and epoxy?
I also noted the nifty wood brackets around the inspection plate. Scrap
from the supplied 1/8 ply with bid?
Also you have chosen to epoxy the pitot line into the bracket rather than
just coming out of the conduit. My guess it to prevent entanglement of the
bellcrank.
If I understood an earlier email the you are going to attach this conduit to
the floor of the wing with Redux to prevent flopping around. From the
photos
the conduit appears to be well above the floor. Is this still going to be
done?
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