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1. 01:33 AM - Re: Gear retraction test (Andy Draper)
2. 08:32 AM - Re: Gear retraction test (Fergus Kyle)
3. 09:20 AM - (Richard)
4. 10:18 AM - Re: (Garry Stout)
5. 11:34 AM - Re: (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
6. 11:49 AM - 912s Temps (P.A.D.Clarke)
7. 12:31 PM - Re: 912s Temps (Europa Aircraft)
8. 12:31 PM - Re: Europa dinner at Sun 'n Fun (Europa Aircraft)
9. 02:07 PM - Re: 912s Temps (Pete Lawless)
10. 02:50 PM - Spinner Question (Jeff Roberts)
11. 05:51 PM - Re: Hot Running 914 (Jim Brown)
12. 06:02 PM - Re: Europa dinner at Sun 'n Fun ()
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| Subject: | Gear retraction test |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Andy Draper" <andy@europa-aircraft.com>
Dear Paul,
The recommended method for supporting the aircraft off the ground to do the gear
retraction check is to use an engine hoist and lift (using ropes) from the landing
gear frame where the upper attachments of the engine mount are.
To steady the aircraft in roll, place a saw horse and cushion under each wing(but
you don't have to lower the full weight of the aircraft down on to them); this
will double as a safety net, should the hoist fail. You can even sit in the
aircraft and operate the gear while your inspector checks it out.
Regards
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul
McAllister
Subject: Europa-List: Gear retraction test
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
Now that my Europa is out of its cradle and on its own legs retracting the gear
is not as simple any more. I was wondering what the best practices are out
there. My current thinking is to make up some saw horses with the top sloping
equal to the wing dihedral and placing them right under the spars. Padded of
course.
Ideas anyone ? - Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Gear retraction test |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Gear retraction test
Hi all,
Now that my Europa is out of its cradle and on its own legs retracting the
gear is not as simple any more. I was wondering what the best practices are
out there. My current thinking is to make up some saw horses with the top
sloping equal to the wing dihedral and placing them right under the spars.
Padded of course.
Ideas anyone ? - Paul
Paul,
I have the same dilemma. I think only the boys at Europa can
safely comment (not to denigrate any of our fellow aerodynamicists).
I believe it depends upon the changes you plan after the
sawhorse procedure. Obviously, this is a living creature, bending with the
forces it encounters. I figured any process which affects the shape of the
fuselage at wing attachment must be done with the aircraft enduring the
forces expected. If you place the horses (or any support) too far inboard
the weight of wings will effect a change in the shape - the same attends
support at the tips.
I'm too stupid to visualize the proper effect, but think it
should be considered. I think it involves [a] intended work and [b] winglift
site.
You did say, "Ideas anyone?"
Cheers, Ferg
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
There is a distant possibility that I could just get to Sun & Fun this
year. How many days should I allocate and which are the best days to go
(if any are better than others)
Richard Iddon. G-RIXS
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List: |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry Stout" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
The first 4 days at Sun'N Fun are the best times to go. On the 5th day,
half or more of the planes depart.
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
Subject: Europa-List:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard" <riddon@btinternet.com>
>
> There is a distant possibility that I could just get to Sun & Fun this
> year. How many days should I allocate and which are the best days to go
> (if any are better than others)
>
> Richard Iddon. G-RIXS
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List: |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
But Thursday and Friday for sure so you can go to the FlightCrafters and
Europa dinner/get together's.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Tailwheel complete. Wing pins and
tie bar installed. Working on baggage bay. Conventional gear assembled and soon
to be fitted.
But Sun-N-Fun comes soon!
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
I have an XS with a Rotax 912s and have been following the discussion
of 914 temperatures with interest, as I have the opposite problem. In winter
in the U.K. the cooling seems to be too efficient is the cruise, so I have
been experimenting with blanking off the coolers. My rotax Operators manual
gives the normal operating oil temp as between 90 & 110 deg C., so a target to
aim at would seem to be 100 deg C.. No normal operating C.H.T.s are given -
would 100 deg C. seem good for these as well?
Trying to get up to these temps requires blocking off more than
half the coolers, and this then reduces the operating time on the ground and
on the climb before the temperatures rise uncomfortably high, even on the coldest
days. In view of this compromise, has anyone got any advice as to what minimum
oil temp and C.H.Ts it would be advisable to use in the cruise? I have seen
the oil temp down to 65 deg C. on a very cold day. Would it be wise to occasionally
go to climb power, to try to raise the temp, or would this cycling just
cause extra stress on the engine? Or would it help to fly faster ( or slower
! ) to try to increase the temps?.
Ideally it would be best to have a manually operated door to cut
the air flow through the coolers in cruise. Has anyone out there developed something
like this for the XS ? - I know it's been done for the classic.
All advice would be gratefully received,
Cheers, Paddy Clarke
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Paddy,
Oil thermostats are available from Mocal that might help. You have the use
the heavy duty with a 190deg F thermostat.
Hope that helps!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of P.A.D.Clarke
Subject: Europa-List: 912s Temps
--> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
I have an XS with a Rotax 912s and have been following the
discussion of 914 temperatures with interest, as I have the opposite
problem. In winter in the U.K. the cooling seems to be too efficient is the
cruise, so I have been experimenting with blanking off the coolers. My rotax
Operators manual gives the normal operating oil temp as between 90 & 110 deg
C., so a target to aim at would seem to be 100 deg C.. No normal operating
C.H.T.s are given - would 100 deg C. seem good for these as well?
Trying to get up to these temps requires blocking off more
than half the coolers, and this then reduces the operating time on the
ground and on the climb before the temperatures rise uncomfortably high,
even on the coldest days. In view of this compromise, has anyone got any
advice as to what minimum oil temp and C.H.Ts it would be advisable to use
in the cruise? I have seen the oil temp down to 65 deg C. on a very cold
day. Would it be wise to occasionally go to climb power, to try to raise the
temp, or would this cycling just cause extra stress on the engine? Or would
it help to fly faster ( or slower ! ) to try to increase the temps?.
Ideally it would be best to have a manually operated door to
cut the air flow through the coolers in cruise. Has anyone out there
developed something like this for the XS ? - I know it's been done for the
classic.
All advice would be gratefully received,
Cheers, Paddy Clarke
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| Subject: | Europa-List:Europa dinner at Sun 'n Fun |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Hi all,
The deadline for advance dinner tickets was March 16, however Patty still
has a few left for builders who haven't ordered them yet. Please be sure
and get a ticket in advance, as there will be a very limited amount
available at the show.
Happy Flying & Building!
John Hurst
Europa Aircraft
Lakeland, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
DuaneFamly@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List:
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
But Thursday and Friday for sure so you can go to the FlightCrafters and
Europa dinner/get together's.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Tailwheel complete. Wing pins and
tie bar installed. Working on baggage bay. Conventional gear assembled and
soon
to be fitted.
But Sun-N-Fun comes soon!
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Hi Paddy
What about an oil thermostat? Merlin at Castle Combe have one, very light,
opens at 80 degrees C. I have the same problem as you with the standard
912. Intend to move the oil cooler off the back of the radiator to improve
cooling. This morning it took 10 minutes to warm the oil before I could do
the power check, yet I still saw 120 degrees in the climb to 4,000 feet.
Regards
Pete
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| Subject: | Spinner Question |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>
For those that have used the spinner supplied with the firewall forward
package. I would like to hear what others have done to get it true. I hate
to drill the lug holes out of the rear bulkhead only to find it wont spin
true.
Thanks in advance,
Jeff Roberts
A258 Tri Gear
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| Subject: | Re: Hot Running 914 |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
It would appear from some of the posting to the forum that we all have
addressed the subject of the 914 ground heating problem in about the same
way. That is what makes this forum so educational about a lot of subjects.
I will assume that your statement "I don't blast around the sky at 115% all the
time", was directed at me as I had given some typical cruise setting I use in
my a/c. My answer to this is "Neither Do I"
In the maintenance manual that came with my 914 dated 02-01-1997 on page 26 It
lists that Take Off Performance is 5800 RPM and 40 inches MP for max. 5
MINUTES. It also approves Max. Continuous Power at 5500 RPM and 35 inches MP
which Rotax considers this to be 100% power according to their engine
performance box on page 54. Since I cruise at 5300 RPM and 33 inches MP I am
operating my engine within the parameters set forth by Rotax....and certainly
this is not 115%.
My original reason for sharing engine speed and MP pressure was so that others
would have a baseline for temperatures on their own engines
Jim Brown
N398JB
David Joyce wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Paul, I had high temps on my 914, and in particular problems if prolonged
> taxying was necessary. I plugged the gaps between the two radiators and the
> air ducting and things improved, (probably helped by the passage of time and
> the engine wearing off the rough bits). For the gap below the radiator I
> stuck a sloping fillet of blue foam across the lower cowling and laid two
> plies of bid over it, and for the other I filled the top gap with stainless
> steel sheet, thus encouraging all the cooling air to go through both
> radiators. Temps now seem happy in the worst of English summers, although I
> don't blast around the sky at 115% all the time! Regards, David Joyce,
> G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hot Running 914
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was looking at the articles section on the Europa USA club website.
> Terry
> > describes a baffle he installed to help out with this problem. Has anyone
> > else tried this with success ? See
> > http://www.europa-usa.com/n135TD.htm#Oil_and_water_cooling
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> >
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List:Europa dinner at Sun 'n Fun |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
I would like three reservations.
Ken Carpenter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
Subject: RE: Europa-List:Europa dinner at Sun 'n Fun
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Europa Aircraft" <europa@gate.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The deadline for advance dinner tickets was March 16, however Patty still
> has a few left for builders who haven't ordered them yet. Please be sure
> and get a ticket in advance, as there will be a very limited amount
> available at the show.
>
> Happy Flying & Building!
>
> John Hurst
> Europa Aircraft
> Lakeland, FL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> DuaneFamly@aol.com
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List:
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
>
> But Thursday and Friday for sure so you can go to the FlightCrafters and
> Europa dinner/get together's.
>
>
> Mike Duane A207
> Redding, California
> XS Conventional Gear
> CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Tailwheel complete. Wing pins
and
> tie bar installed. Working on baggage bay. Conventional gear assembled and
> soon
> to be fitted.
> But Sun-N-Fun comes soon!
>
>
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