Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/05/04


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 05:29 AM - Re: SNF Forum (Jim Butcher)
     2. 05:59 AM - Re: 914 Static run up (Jim Brown)
     3. 08:09 AM - Vacuum Forming Perspex. (R.C.Harrison)
     4. 12:07 PM - Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex. (Ami McFadyean)
     5. 03:36 PM - Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex. (Paul McAllister)
     6. 04:06 PM - Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex. (R.C.Harrison)
     7. 04:07 PM - Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex. (R.C.Harrison)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:29:45 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: SNF Forum
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> You wrote: > The open houses at Europa and Flite Crafters are Thursday and Friday. We > had planned on spending all day those two days at Lakeland. This may also > be the case with other builders. Any chance of changing it to coincide with > these dates? We would really like to attend. > > Jim Puglise, A283 All the other times were already taken when we had the idea to sign up.


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    Time: 05:59:15 AM PST US
    From: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: 914 Static run up
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> Paul; I seem to remember that during my setup I had the same problem. You may have to much pitch in the prop in the fine pitch position. .Look in the Airmaster installation instructions. There is a section on setting the Fine pitch and also the Coarse pitch. Make a small change then run the engine up again to check the results. I would set the RPM at 5700 static rpm. Then on the take off run the prop will unload some due to the forward movement through the air. This way you will not exceed 5800 rpm on the take off run. With you developing 34 inches at 5100 , the turbo is working as it is supposed to. Once you reach 5800 you should see 39 or 40 inches. I think that once the rpm is set correctly that you will see and hear when the turbo goes to full boost. Jim N398JB Paul McAllister wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Hi all, > > I did a static run up of my 914 today. I had it tied off to the tow hitch on my car with the tail weighted down with an 80 pound bag of salt. Apart from white knuckles and a bit of vibration it was a non event. > > My 914 is not developing full power. With the prop set manually to fine pitch the engine would only develop 5100 rpm and 34 inches of manifold pressure. I would have expected 5500~5800 RPM. I have checked the throttle and it is moving to full open. The tach is an EIS engine monitor and I have no reason to suspect it is incorrect > > I need a few data points. Could some one tell me what is the maximum RPM I could expect with an Airmaster set manually to fine pitch. > > Secondly, I cannot get the engine into boost. My first thought is that the waste gate might not be set correctly. I removed the cable from the servo and it might not be in the correct position. Can anyone tell me how to set it correctly. Conversely, .... 34" is 100% power, could the TCU be limiting it? if so what parameters can do this. I only one I know is the air box temperature. > > Thanks, Paul >


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    Time: 08:09:17 AM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Vacuum Forming Perspex.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! All you knowledgeable chaps. I'm busy making a Vacuum mould for a obsolete fin strobe lens. Anyone have any guide lines on temperatures and draw angles, lubrication, sealants likely vacuum pressures or lack of it !Please. Alternatively anyone know where Gold Wing got their lenses made before they went belly up. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300


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    Time: 12:07:45 PM PST US
    From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> >>Gold Wing .............. before they went belly up.<< I rather think they made a tactical withdrawal from the market, after taking numerous paid-up orders that were never delivered. Presumably the Kunzleman (Airworld) fin covers are no good to you? I was going down a similar route to provide a more streamlined cover over a cylindrical fresnel lense. If you make a wooden plug of what you want, it may be possible to persuade an aeromodeller canopy maker to do the rest. I'll be interested to learn of your experience/progress with this. Rgds., Duncan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > Hi! All you knowledgeable chaps. > I'm busy making a Vacuum mould for a obsolete fin strobe lens. Anyone have any guide lines on temperatures and draw angles, lubrication, sealants likely vacuum pressures or lack of it !Please. Alternatively anyone know where Gold Wing got their lenses made before they went belly up. > > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 > >


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    Time: 03:36:24 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Bob, Graham Singleton is now manufacturing wing tip lenses and has quite a bit of expertise in this area. I do know that he is using a mold / stretch technique for this. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Subject: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > Hi! All you knowledgeable chaps. > I'm busy making a Vacuum mould for a obsolete fin strobe lens. Anyone have any guide lines on temperatures and draw angles, lubrication, sealants likely vacuum pressures or lack of it !Please. Alternatively anyone know where Gold Wing got their lenses made before they went belly up. > > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 > >


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    Time: 04:06:29 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Duncan This forum is the most amazing source of information .... within two hours of my message going out a kind chap at Boeing "patched" me 8 pages of method and temperature suggestions! Should you wish I can send it through? The Air World one stands too high to get into my trailor safely and has a different base, the existing Gold Wing one needs to be only about 1/4 inch higher to be futher away from the heat of the bulb. I've had a female plug roughly cut in aluminium but have a lot of "burring" to do to get the final shape cut out then I was going to try the vacuum thing. Just skip reading the 8 page detail above it could be possible to do with some combination of methods. regards Bob H G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> > > >>Gold Wing .............. before they went belly up.<< > > I rather think they made a tactical withdrawal from the market, after taking > numerous paid-up orders that were never delivered. > > Presumably the Kunzleman (Airworld) fin covers are no good to you? > > I was going down a similar route to provide a more streamlined cover over a > cylindrical fresnel lense. If you make a wooden plug of what you want, it > may be possible to persuade an aeromodeller canopy maker to do the rest. > > I'll be interested to learn of your experience/progress with this. > > Rgds., > Duncan. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" > <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > > > Hi! All you knowledgeable chaps. > > I'm busy making a Vacuum mould for a obsolete fin strobe lens. Anyone have > any guide lines on temperatures and draw angles, lubrication, sealants > likely vacuum pressures or lack of it !Please. Alternatively anyone know > where Gold Wing got their lenses made before they went belly up. > > > > Regards > > Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:07:38 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Vacuum Forming Perspex.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> Hi! Paul Thanks for that info. regards Bob H G-PTAG do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Bob, > > Graham Singleton is now manufacturing wing tip lenses and has quite a bit of > expertise in this area. I do know that he is using a mold / stretch > technique for this. > > Paul > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > To: "Europa Matronic Circuit" <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Vacuum Forming Perspex. > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" > <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk> > > > > Hi! All you knowledgeable chaps. > > I'm busy making a Vacuum mould for a obsolete fin strobe lens. Anyone have > any guide lines on temperatures and draw angles, lubrication, sealants > likely vacuum pressures or lack of it !Please. Alternatively anyone know > where Gold Wing got their lenses made before they went belly up. > > > > Regards > > Bob Harrison G-PTAG Europa MKI/Jabiru 3300 > > > > > >




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