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1. 12:05 AM - Fw: FINGER BRAKE SEALS (ivor.phillips)
2. 12:09 AM - Re: Need some cockpit module help (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
3. 12:54 AM - Re: Cowlings (Neville Eyre)
4. 12:59 AM - Re: Hat Drop (RICHARD IDDON)
5. 03:59 AM - Re: Navaid working in reverse (Eamonn Sheridan)
6. 04:53 AM - Re: Jim: flash generator units (Jim Brown)
7. 07:00 AM - Re: Fw: FINGER BRAKE SEALS (KARL HEINDL)
8. 10:27 AM - Re: Adhesive supplies from the factory (Rowland Carson)
9. 10:51 AM - Re: long ranger fuel tank (Ami McFadyean)
10. 11:41 AM - drop the hat (Danny Shepherd)
11. 12:04 PM - Todays' Cearnarvon Fly-in (bryan allsop)
12. 01:24 PM - Re: Adhesive supplies from the factory (Jan de Jong)
13. 02:40 PM - FINGER BRAKE SEALS (ivor.phillips)
14. 10:57 PM - Re: Control Lock (William Mills)
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| Subject: | Fw: FINGER BRAKE SEALS |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
----- Original Message -----
From: ivor.phillips
Subject: FINGER BRAKE SEALS
Hi guys
This might be of interest to a few of you, building tri-gears with the factory
finger-brake mod 65.
For lots of reasons I wasn't happy to use the Silicone brake fluid DOT5 in my plane,
being assured that the master cylinder seals were combatable with automatic
transmission fluid, I left the seals soaking for a week to see if there were
any adverse affects, Three of the four seals where fine, but surprisingly
one cup seal had swelled to nearly twice its original size, so they were chucked,
The seals used in the master cylinder are 3/4 inch ring and cup seals, to be combatable
with mil-h-5606 they need to be made of Buna-n-(nitrile) Or if you are
using glycol base DOT 3/4/5.1 then they need to be Ethylene-proplene,
My seals were obviously a mix of the two! so I sourced Girling SP2044 ring seals
and Girling SP3694 cup seals and rebuilt the master cylinder,
The Matco brake caliper seals are Buna-n-(nitrile) so these were changed to 222 EPDM (Ethylene-Proplene) Fairway seals http://www.fairwayseals.com/
Bleeding was as simple as filling the reservoir with a small funnel, cracking open
a bleed nipple and watching the air being expelled! ( No pumping nessary)
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
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| Subject: | Re: Need some cockpit module help |
--> Europa-List message posted by: DuaneFamly@aol.com
Hi Jeff,
The next time you speak with John about the M/C for the finger brakes,
inquire about a new mod that lets you cut away some of the center console and insert
a pre-molded composite part that the M/C will install directly to. It might
save you some time.
Mike Duane A207
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
CM & rudder pedals with cables installed. Tailwheel complete. Wing pins and
tie bar installed. Working on baggage bay. Conventional gear assembled and soon
to be fitted.
Back from Sun-N-Fun and have lots of work to do!
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" <neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Hi,
We could not monitor the cylinder walls, but as most of the heat in the oil is
generated by it splashing onto the walls, I would guess it was considerable ?
Not sure whether it is needed in Northern Europe,[most of the year we can't keep
them warm enough] might help in a 914 installation in warmer climates, if only
it was not so expensive ! [ thinks.. perhaps I should make a less expensive
version at home, to sell ?.....]
Cheers,
Nev.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ami
McFadyean
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cowlings
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Neville,
What drop is there in cylinder wall temps.with the cooling shroud fitted?
Duncan McF
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neville Eyre" <neville@europa-aircraft.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cowlings
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre"
<neville@europa-aircraft.com>
>
> Hi All,
> The 914 as supplied does not normally come with the cylinder shroud, the
912S has that as a standard fitment. It is available for the 914 as an
option [ but VERY EXPENSIVE !]
> Tests indicate a drop of oil and water temps of about 10 C when the shroud
is fitted.
> If the shroud is left on, then the cowl MUST have the air inlet fitted, if
the shroud is removed, you needn't cut the inlet.
> The air scoop cut into the lower duct is to let a bit of air flow past the
Turbo on the 914.
> Hope this clears up any confusion ?
> Cheers,
> Nev.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Simon Smith
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Cowlings
>
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
>
> I was idly looking through the engine installation manuals on the club
> website and was looking through the 912/S manual (I have a 914).
>
> It talks about a cut-out and splash moulding in the front of the cowling
to
> direct air into the cylinder cowl. The 914 manual does not mention this
but
> my 914 is fitted with the cowl, should it be? Do I need the
cut-out/splash
> moulding or will the little bent tab in the cooling duct to the radiators
> (which is missing on the 912/S) do the job?
>
> Simon
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "RICHARD IDDON" <riddon@btinternet.com>
Me Too. Hope to see you there.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Subject: Europa-List: Hat Drop
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce"
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
It looks as though the blue sky will give way to the 1500 cloud base
not too far W of Caernarfon this afternoon, but I shall go for it. David
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| Subject: | Re: Navaid working in reverse |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Eamonn Sheridan <esheridan1@yahoo.com>
Thank you David and Tony.
I reversed the wires on the motor and feedback, and it works fine now.
Regards
Eamonn.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Eamonn, My manual ( Navaid installed 3 yrs ago) on P8 says 'If the aileron
deflection is backwards you must reverse the direction of servo rotation.
Swap the motor wires at the motor. Swap end connections at the Feedback
pot--these wires are white with red tracer and white with black tracer'. The
other option if installation geometry allows is to install the servo crank
arm 180deg round.
Regards David
----- Original Message -----
From: Eamonn Sheridan <esheridan1@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Navaid working in reverse
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Eamonn Sheridan <esheridan1@yahoo.com>
>
> I have installed the Navaid AP1 and Servo unit as per the Europa Mod, but
the servo unit operates in reverse! When either the Trim or Turn pot is
moved to the left, the stick moves to the right. If the aircraft is tilted
to the left, the stick moves to the left. A bit worrying! There doesn't
appear to be any means of switching the mode in the servo unit or AP1. I
was going to try reversing the wires on the feedback potentiometer. Has
anyone found this problem with their installation? how did you overcome it?
>
> Eamonn
>
> G-ROOV
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| Subject: | Re: flash generator units |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Brian;
Yes, the ground wire need's to be connected with a splice at the wing to fuselage
connection.
We used the Bob Archer antenna's. The com antenna is bonded on the left side of
the fuselage behind the baggage compartment, the nav antenna is bonded overhead
in the baggage compartment, as per Bob Archers instructions. His transponder is
bonded to the side of the fuselage behind the baggage compartment. The GPS
antenna is also setting on a ledge bonded to the side of the aircraft behind the
baggage compartment.
Jim
N398JB
EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>
> Thanks Jim. When you said continuous ground wire through the wings, I assume
> that you mean the only splice or connection should be at wing to fuselage with
> the rest of the connections.
> Another question is where did you place your com antenna? I had thought about
> in the wings but am concerned about the strobe wire being so close.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Brian S
> A276 Tri Gear. Texas
> http://forum.okhuijsen.org/modules.php?set_albumName=BrianS&op=modload&name=ga
> llery&file=index&include=view_album.php
>
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| Subject: | Fw: FINGER BRAKE SEALS |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Ivor,
Thanks for the detailed info. I am about to recommission my fingerbrake system.
The original seals were sticking and I changed them . Now I notice that one of
the new ones is sticking again. I don't want to change the brake caliper seals.Exactly
what should I use, assuming I use your same supplier. Also, how do
you change the seal which is part of the piston; does that come apart somehow
or do i replace the whole unit and what is the part number ? Can I use automatic
transmission fluid with the existing caliper brakes ? I was using Dot5 and
intended using that again. Any advice much appreciated.
Karl
From: "ivor.phillips" ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com
Subject: Europa-List: Fw: FINGER BRAKE SEALS
-- Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
----- Original Message -----
From: ivor.phillips
Subject: FINGER BRAKE SEALS
Hi guys
This might be of interest to a few of you, building tri-gears with the factory
finger-brake mod 65.
For lots of reasons I wasn't happy to use the Silicone brake fluid DOT5 in my plane,being
assured that the master cylinder seals were combatable with automatic
transmission fluid, I left the seals soaking for a week to see if there were
any adverse affects, Three of the four seals where fine, but surprisinglyone
cup seal had swelled to nearly twice its original size, so they were chucked,
The seals used in the master cylinder are 3/4 inch ring and cup seals, to be combatable
with mil-h-5606 they need to be made of Buna-n-(nitrile) Or if you are
using glycol base DOT 3/4/5.1 then they need to be Ethylene-proplene,
My seals were obviously a mix of the two! so I sourced Girling SP2044 ring seals
and Girling SP3694 cup seals and rebuilt the master cylinder,
The Matco brake caliper seals are Buna-n-(nitrile) so these were changed to 222 EPDM (Ethylene-Proplene) Fairway seals http://www.fairwayseals.com/
Bleeding was as simple as filling the reservoir with a small funnel, cracking open
a bleed nipple and watching the air being expelled! ( No pumping nessary)
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
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| Subject: | Re: Adhesive supplies from the factory |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
At 2004 04 22 21:46 +0200 Simon Miles wrote:
>Ampreg and Redux
>Does anyone know of alternative suppliers
I've been very happy with the service from the SP Systems
distributors, Marineware of Southampton. They will sell the resin and
hardener separately if need be (don't ask why I know this!). As well
as Ampreg 20 (and other epoxies), they supply other useful stuff like
mixing cups (stouter & cheaper than the Europa ones) and red-tracer
peel-ply in tapes and wide rolls.
Marineware Ltd
6 Crosshouse Centre
Crosshouse Road
Southampton
Hampshire
SO14 5GZ
phone 023 8033 0208
fax 023 8033 9667
e-mail <marineware@compuserve.com>
Sorry, I don't know of anywhere else to get Redux; I think Dave Watts
mentioned a place a long time ago, but I can't lay my hands on the
reference now. Neither SkyCraft nor Light Aero appear to stock Redux,
according to the catalogues I have.
regards
Rowland
--
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| 670 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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| Subject: | Re: long ranger fuel tank |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Is the Long Ranger tank still required for inspection at Le Touquet?
I may be able to bring one; it wont be in use and it dents my "Duty Free"
space, so won't bring it unless essential to you.
Rgds.,
Duncan Mcf.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: <owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
Subject: Europa-List: long ranger fuel tank
> --> Europa-List message posted by:
>
> Hello all,
> I would like to make sure the long range tank fits into my plane before
purchasing one from Europa.
> Is there any one flying to Le Touquet next Saturday (April 24) with a long
range tank I could borrow for a few minutes ?
> R=E9mi Guerner
> F-PGKL, XS 914 monowheel
> Purchased with 65 hours and many things to fix. Now 240 hours.
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
> I would like to make sure the long range tank fits into my plane before
purchasing one from Europa.
>
>
> Is there any one flying to Le Touquet next Saturday (April 24) with a long
range tank I could borrow for a few minutes?
>
>
> R=E9mi Guerner
>
>
> F-PGKL, XS 914 monowheel
>
>
> Purchased with 65 hours and many things to fix. Now 240 hours.
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Danny Shepherd" <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Hi All,
just like to say thanks for the warm welcome I received at the
EGCK flyin today, nice to put faces to names. special thanks to David Joyce
for reminding me of what my "little spitfire" will be like on day G-C.E.R.I
:-)
cheers Danny.shepherd
P.S apologies for arriving in a spam can. :-)))
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| Subject: | Todays' Cearnarvon Fly-in |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" <info@blackballclub.fsnet.co.uk>
Really enjoyed the breakfast bap and coffee, but we seemed to depart spontaneously
and I forgot to pay.
Did anyone else do the same, because I intend to ring them and pay up.
Bryan
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| Subject: | Re: Adhesive supplies from the factory |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jan de Jong <jan.de.jong@xs4all.nl>
Simon,
The Benelux importer of Ampreg 20 is http://www.sp-bac.nl
Telephone: +31-20-6652452
Don't forget to ask for a discount - 30% or so, depending on quantity.
And a 12 kg package is cheaper than an equivalent amount in 3.75 kg
packages.
Resin and hardener (normal/slow) can be bought separately.
Delivery is within 2 days.
I haven't found an address for Redux yet, but Europa may find it
easier to supply than Ampreg.
Jan de Jong
#461, tail end of tailplanes
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| Subject: | FINGER BRAKE SEALS |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Hi guys
This might be of interest to a few of you, building tri-gears with the factory
finger-brake mod 65.
For lots of reasons I wasn't happy to use the Silicone brake fluid DOT5 in my plane,
being assured that the master cylinder seals were combatable with automatic
transmission fluid, I left the seals soaking for a week to see if there were
any adverse affects, Three of the four seals where fine, but surprisingly
one cup seal had swelled to nearly twice its original size, so they were chucked,
The seals used in the master cylinder are 3/4 inch ring and cup seals, to be combatable
with mil-h-5606 they need to be made of Buna-n-(nitrile) Or if you are
using glycol base DOT 3/4/5.1 then they need to be Ethylene-proplene,
My seals were obviously a mix of the two! so I sourced Girling SP2044 ring seals
and Girling SP3694 cup seals and rebuilt the master cylinder,
The Matco brake caliper seals are Buna-n-(nitrile) so these were changed to 222 EPDM (Ethylene-Proplene) Fairway seals http://www.fairwayseals.com/
Bleeding was as simple as filling the reservoir with a small funnel, cracking open
a bleed nipple and watching the air being expelled! ( No pumping nessary)
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
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| Subject: | Re: Control Lock |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <combined.merchants@virgin.net>
Hi Richard,
Nice to see you yesterday. I would like to see it at the next Drop of the
Hat fly-in we both attend.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "RICHARD IDDON" <riddon@btinternet.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Control Lock
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "RICHARD IDDON" <riddon@btinternet.com>
>
> I can claim no credit for this idea, it is a copy of the gust-lock
> mentioned by Peter Zutrauen from Ontario. The original was made in
> aluminium but I have made a similar item from 22mm. domestic plastic
> overflow piping, two T pieces and a length of shock cord.
>
> What I constructed is a T about 12 in. across and 18 in. long. I cut
> part of the pipe away at each end of the head of the T so that it sits
> over the rudder pedals. I fitted a second T piece at the foot of the leg
> at right angles to the head then cut half of the vertical section of
> this T piece away to leave a U section which fits against the stick. I
> drilled a couple of holes in the underside of my panel and threaded a
> piece of =BC in. shock cord through so that it lies out of the way on the
> underside of the panel when not in use.
>
> To use the lock simply drop it over the two pedals, place the stick into
> the U section and pull the shock cord over the stick, taking as turn
> around the top to stop it moving from side to side.
>
> It does allow a little movement in the control surfaces but stops them
> from banging About in the wind.
>
> Cost me pennies, weigh just an ounce or two and took less than an hour
> to make and fit.
>
> Peter sent me a sketch of the original which I would be pleased to
> forward on to anyone interested.
>
> Richard Iddon. G-RIXS Hoping to make it to Caernarvon tomorrow weather
> permitting.
>
>
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