---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/24/04: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:31 AM - Fly-In at Lydeway, Wiltshire, UK (nigel charles) 2. 06:29 AM - Re: Flight Crafters Open House (James Puglise) 3. 07:29 AM - BRS Parachute for Europa (Brad Shafer) 4. 08:20 AM - Re: BRS Parachute for Europa (Peter Zutrauen) 5. 01:27 PM - Re: Hat Dropping? (hedley brown) 6. 01:34 PM - Sternpost fitting (Mike) 7. 02:32 PM - first flight G-CCEF (Rowland Carson) 8. 02:54 PM - Re: Ceiling Panel Compasses (J. R. Jones) 9. 03:59 PM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/23/04 (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:31:19 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: Europa-List: Fly-In at Lydeway, Wiltshire, UK --> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" This is just a quick note for UK Europa pilots that there will be another BBQ fly-in at Lydeway on Saturday 17th July. As before numbers will be limited and pilots will be asked to fly a few short flights to get local residents airborne. At this stage this is just for your diaries. Nearer the time I will be taking bookings. I intend keeping the Sunday free as a reserve day should the weather be unsuitable. Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:13 AM PST US From: "James Puglise" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flight Crafters Open House --> Europa-List message posted by: "James Puglise" Bob- Just wanted to say "Thanks" for doing the open house. Lynne and I had a great time. Jim Puglise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Berube" Subject: Europa-List: Flight Crafters Open House > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bob Berube" > > Dear Fellow Builders and Enthusiasts, > > > It's that time of the year with the Sun n Fun Air Show nearly here. Flight > Crafters is again planning their Annual > > Open House for Thursday April 15th between 5 and 8pm. Food and beverages > will be served. > > > Last year was a huge success with many builders and wanna be builders. > Several "in progress" projects will > > be available for viewing with staff available to answer builder questions. > > > We encourage an RSVP via -e-mail off-line to give us an idea of how many to > have enough food available. > > > Hope to see all of you again and look forward to seeing new faces. > > > Regards, > > > Bob Berube > > Flight Crafters N166BB Conventional (flying) > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:05 AM PST US From: "Brad Shafer" Subject: Europa-List: BRS Parachute for Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brad Shafer" Has anyone looked at adding a BRS parachute to a Europa? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: BRS Parachute for Europa From: "Peter Zutrauen" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Zutrauen" Yip, Miles has installed one, his email: milesm@avnet.co.uk Cheers, Pete A239 Here is a posting from these archives: Re: Europa_Mail: Ballistic chute? -------- Subject: Re: Europa_Mail: Ballistic chute? From: Miles McCallum -------- Design work on the BRS installation is 98% complete - the one unknown is the exit hatch attachment, and we have a pretty good idea of what we are doing there, but the final decision will be a test by BRS on a dummy fuselage top and hatch - work on which will hopefully be completed in the next couple of months. Stress analysis on the installation (maintaining airframe integrity when not in use, and keeping the parachute attached to the airframe when deployed) is largely complete, with the report still to be written (here in the UK we have to get approval from PFA engineering for mods) The installation has been designed around the "Classic" fuselage aft bulkhead - ie with the small baggage space - although the fuselage is an XS type. the reasoning behind this is that with close to 40lbs at the back of the cabin, the baggage allowance will also be 40lbs - although exactly how much can be placed there will be down to CG calculations. The aft attach points will not transfer to the XS type baggage bay - it requires a much higher aft bulkhead, at least to a line about 3-4" above the fuselage split line, and the BRS is situated 50% into the (short) aft bulkhead - and would in any case sit in the center of the XS type baggae bay. It's not impossible to design an XS type installation - but stressing it (absolutely essential with a possible 6G deployment load -around 4 tonnes on any one point) costs.... we have already put better than $5000 into stress analysis, and don't feel the desire to put any more in - however, if enough builders are prepared to club together, I will be pleased to do the design and drawings if the "BRS club" pay for the extra stressing work. As for "classic" type installations - once the mod application has been completed and the design approved by the PFA, drawings and construction information will be available for the cost of the media - probably on paper and CD. Aft attach fittings and some mouldings - critical components and the BRS cabin cover will be available - all the rest of the special parts/mods are designed to be done using temporary formers or built in place. BRS will, when the design is 100% complete, have details of the straps, etc. It will be possible to retrofit the conversion to a flying aeroplane - but it will not be a pleasant job - the fuselage will have to be inverted for some time, and doing the layups in a complete fuselage will be something of a nightmare (but do-able). Much better to do it whilst the fuselage top is off....... Basic details are: BRS attached to aft bulkhead. primary connection to the airframe is via steel cable running down the roof, center of split windshield (1.25" wide bar that doubles as rollover brace) to a pair of short kevlar loops over the top engine mount stubs. Aft connections are a pair of kevlar straps buried in channels about 6" aft of the doors Aft attachments are ali fittings bolted to the reinforced bulkhead - stiffened by composite corner boxes over the fittings (forward) and reaction webs (aft of bulhead) the 3 connection straps/steel cable come together in a box center top, starting aft of the rear door line. 50% of the kevlar straps are stored in this box. BRS exit is reinforced with a substantial foam/ glass stiffener inside the rim. exit hatch (and storage lid) is cut out from the original skin, modified, and reattached using dry micro with a PTFE stress riser built in. If anyone wants a .PDF drawing of the installation, email me off-group and I'll send them out next week. Over to you chaps..... Miles The Europa List is supported by Aviators Network UK - info@avnet.co.uk -------- -----Original Message----- From: Brad Shafer [mailto:bshafer@starnetwx.net] Subject: Europa-List: BRS Parachute for Europa --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brad Shafer" Has anyone looked at adding a BRS parachute to a Europa? == == == == ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:34 PM PST US From: "hedley brown" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hat Dropping? --> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown" It didn't. We were going to go there on Friday but it wept welshly, as did we. Maybe monday or tuesday...H ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hat Dropping? > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" > > I can't decide from this evenings selection of W. forecasts whether the tail > of the warm front is going to miss Caernarfon or not. If only the met office > did 215s more than 6 hrs ahead! I guess we shall all have to wait for the > mornings 214/5 and decide then. > Regards, David Joyce > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bryan allsop > To: > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hat Dropping? > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "bryan allsop" > > > > > Can't make it for a breakfast bap at breakfast, but I hope that they wont > > have run out by lunchtime. > > > > I trust that your weather forcasting is going to be better than mine was. > > > > Regards. Bryan > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "RICHARD IDDON" > > To: > > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Hat Dropping? > > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "RICHARD IDDON" > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > I did think of flying down to N Weald last Friday but the warm front > > > stalled over Birmingham put the kybosh on that. > > > > > > Caernarvon sounds good to me. They make an astounding 'breakfast bap' > > > > > > Hope to see you there all being well. > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > Richard Iddon G-RIXS > > > > > > do not archive > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > > > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce > > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hat Dropping? > > > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" > > > > > > > > > Richard, As one of the only 2 who made it out of the murk over the > > > Western > > > part of the country to N. Weald, (or 2 1/2 if you count Bob Harrison, > > > who > > > drove there!), I should take responsibility for not having pinned down > > > the > > > other (Dave Watts) to organise this week's event. Certainly Friday looks > > > as > > > though it may be reasonable and I would like to suggest Caernarvon. No > > > free > > > pass as far I know but it is a good destination for those who haven't > > > sampled it, with a small air museum on site and with interesting flying > > > along Menai Straits or thru/over Snowdonia with a few fast jets to liven > > > things up! > > > ----- Regards, David Joyce > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Have you tried the new drug sample request service on Doctors.net.uk? > > http://www.doctors.net.uk/samples > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:34:37 PM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: Europa-List: Sternpost fitting --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike" Having initially set up my sternpost to align with the fuselage bottom, I find that the fin needs about 1.5 ins of its trailing edge removed and that the sternpost would butt against 1.5ins of foam reinforced port fin surface whilst the stb side is clear of the foam.. On trial fitting the ribs I found that they could be forced in to the fin only about 5, 15 and 23ins from the joint line, i.e. 2ins less that indicated in the manual. My problem is this - is the position of the sternpost fore and aft critical? If I accept this position, will I find that the rudder is misplaced or the line of the fin/rudder uneven? I am still doing all I can before topping out. Those that have passed this stage, please let me know how you faired. Thanks Mike XS440 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:46 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Europa-List: first flight G-CCEF --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson Congratulations to Chris Garner whose Classic Europa G-CCEF had its first flight today in the safe hands of Dave Hunter at Kemble. Tim Houlihan & I met Chris and his dad looking very pleased with themselves, shortly after our return from a very nice day at Le Touquet. I've updated the "flying aircraft" and related files on the Europa Club website, and apologise to anyone who hasn't always been able to find the latest versions of these pages. Webmaster Jeremy Davey's software was accidentally "updating" some of those pages with older versions, instead of leaving in place the latest ones I'd uploaded. We've sorted that now. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (670 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:40 PM PST US From: "J. R. Jones" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ceiling Panel Compasses --> Europa-List message posted by: "J. R. Jones" Tony, The Sirs compass comes with a "long" and a "short" mounting bracket. The short one places the unit just below the upper edge of the w/screen. Perfect. (In my opinion. anyway!) Cheers, Ron Jones.(XS359. G-RJWX) ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:35 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 14 Msgs - 04/23/04 --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton At 23:56 23/04/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Cowlings >From: "Neville Eyre" > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Neville Eyre" > > >Hi, >We could not monitor the cylinder walls, but as most of the heat in the oil is >generated by it splashing onto the walls, I would guess it was considerable ? >Not sure whether it is needed in Northern Europe,[most of the year we >can't keep >them warm enough] might help in a 914 installation in warmer climates, if >only >it was not so expensive ! [ thinks.. perhaps I should make a less expensive >version at home, to sell ?.....] >Cheers, >Nev. Go for it Nev! Gunter Reinfeld (that doesn't ring right, anyway he runs the Katana firm now) used to supply them to Rotax, he had them made in Czeck from fire retardent polyester. Easy to make for such as you. Graham