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Sun 05/02/04


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 12:47 AM - Re: to build or not to build (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com)
     2. 12:06 PM - Re: Mode "c" info required (Rowland Carson)
     3. 12:45 PM - Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment (Gerry Holland)
     4. 02:46 PM - Avionics question (Paul McAllister)
     5. 02:51 PM - Not enough turbo boost (Paul McAllister)
     6. 03:01 PM - Re: to build or not to build (Rowland Carson)
     7. 03:10 PM - Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment (Mark Burton)
     8. 03:10 PM - Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment (Jim Brown)
     9. 03:31 PM - Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment (RICHARD IDDON)
    10. 03:37 PM - Re: Avionics question (Jerry Rehn)
    11. 04:04 PM - Re: Not enough turbo boost (Jerry Rehn)
    12. 04:20 PM - Re: Not enough turbo boost (Paul McAllister)
    13. 04:44 PM - Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment (Cliff Shaw)
    14. 06:30 PM - Re: Avionics question (Paul McAllister)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:47:12 AM PST US
    From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
    Subject: Re: to build or not to build
    --> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com Pops Having got this far it seems a great pity to give up. Couln't you get some help to finish your project? If you do stop, the Europa community will miss your creative input. Your fuselage cradle design is brilliant. Regards John Heykoop Also 72 and determined to plod on. XS Mono G-JHKP. Cockpit module bonded in. Rudder pedals installed. Tailwheel spring installed. Top clecoed on. Flap drive pins and wing fitting next. In a message dated 02/05/04 00:33:36 GMT Standard Time, cpops@verizon.net writes: > I'm now pushing 72 and at my present > build rate, I could be pushing up daisys before getting to fly my baby. > I've just now made the terrible decision to give it up and to reluctantly > put my project up for sale. Do not archive


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    Time: 12:06:40 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: Mode "c" info required
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2004 04 29 21:17 +0100 Tim Houlihan wrote: >Where can I find any info about the grey code that the encoder sends >to the transponder Tim - sorry for slow response, only just back from the Charney Manor weekend. Here are a couple of relevant postings from the Matronics Avionics list: At 2003 07 07 09:46 -0400 Finn Lassen wrote: >Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 09:46:02 -0400 >From: Finn Lassen <finnlassen@netzero.net> >To: avionics-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Avionics-List: Grey code for altitude encoders >Here's a link to get you started: >http://www.nist.gov/dads/HTML/graycode.html > >Gray-to-Bin: >B(i) Binary (bit i) >G(i) Gray (bit i) >MSBit just copied to output. ( B(n) = G(n) ) >Subsequent bits: B(i) = B(i+1) XOR G(i) (i = n -1 to 0) > >Altitude encoder output to Binary: >1) Invert all 9 bits >2) Get checksum of upper 6 bits >3) Convert upper 6 bits to gray and multiply by 10 >4) Lower 3 bits: >5) Change 100 to 111 >6) Convert to bin to Gray >7) If checksum was 0 then add to previous result (upper * 10) and subtract 1 > else subtract from previous result >9) Subtract 12 from result and display, appending 2 zeroes or just >display in x100's feet > >Only have a hard copy of table. >Search for: >MODE A AND MODE C CODES >The Full List >by >Darryl Phillips >THE AIRSPORT CORPORATION >Affordable Avionics. > >I assume he still has this posted somewhere. > >Finn and At 2003 07 07 10:16 -0400 Finn Lassen wrote: >Here the table: > >http://www.airsport-corp.com/modecascii.txt > >http://www.airsport-corp.com/modec.htm > > >Finn Hope this helps - and apologies for repetition if someone else has already posted all this! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> | 670 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 12:45:11 PM PST US
    Subject: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment
    From: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Can someone steer me towards the details of the single loops of Bungee to replace the continuous Bungee system for Europa Nose Gear. My Nose gear is yet again gone 'soft' and would like to try this new approach. Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. Fuselage painted, Wings being painted, Flying surfaces painted Airframe Wiring complete, Full Size Panel 70% done . Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. Activity on Panel, Designing Heater Unit, Shoulder Width Mod completed. http://www.g-fizy.com +44 7808 402404 gnholland@onetel.com


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    Time: 02:46:35 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Avionics question
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, I have been struggling with an issue which I have now been able to quantify. When I try and transmit ( IIMorrow GX60) I get an awful squeal in the headset. To trouble shoot I removed the intercom and wired my microphone and headset socket directly to the radio and it still squealed when trying to transmit. My headsets are LightSpeed 25k's I then tried a different set of headsets and it worked just fine (Telex 3500), tower reported a clear transmission. Just as a cross check I tried my Light Speed headsets on my Vertex handheld and they did the same.... made a squeal when trying to transmit. These headsets work perfectly in my Comanche which has a Signtronics intercom. It would seem that the problem is isolated to my Lightspeed headsets, any one have any suggestions ? Paul


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    Time: 02:51:44 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Not enough turbo boost
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi All, I adjusted my propeller pitch today so I could get 5700 RPM for take off. The Airmaster propeller now seems to be working as it should, 5100 RPM in the cruise setting, 5300 in the Climb and 5700 in the take off setting. The problem is that the maximum boost I am seeing is 34" at 5700 RPM, I would have expected to see 38~40 inches. Does anyone have and ideas why I am not seeing full boost under a static run up. I was a cool day, around 50 f so I do not think it would be an air box over temperature issue. Paul


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    Time: 03:01:18 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: to build or not to build
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2004 04 30 13:38 -0400 tom@tompaul.com wrote: >thanks to all for the candid advice. Not one of you has said "go >ahead and build it Tom - nobody else can give you permission to spend your time in this way, it's got to be your own decision. One of the things that tipped me over when I had some doubts was the following scenario posed by someone who had no knowledge of aeroplanes or engineering at all, but knew a lot about people. If on your deathbed you had convenient time to review your life decisions, how do you think you would feel about your aeroplane build/not build choice? Would you be saying (a) "I know it seemed the sensible idea NOT to build, but I really wish I'd tried to build an aeroplane after all" or (b) "I know I didn't finish it (because I died/got epoxy allergy/spent too much time with my family) but I'm glad I gave it a try and risked the experience" Looking forward now, which of those two would you rather be able to say? And of course there's the 3rd one we all hope we can quote instead - "I built it and I can fly around in it"! If all us builder nuts were making decisions based on cold hard facts, I think there'd be very few of us tackling the job. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 <http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/> | 670 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>


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    Time: 03:10:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment
    From: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Mark Burton <markb@ordern.com> Hi Jerry, > Can someone steer me towards the details of the single loops of Bungee to > replace the continuous Bungee system for Europa Nose Gear. > > My Nose gear is yet again gone 'soft' and would like to try this new > approach. The following probably only makes sense for converted monos that still have a hole in the bottom! I have used single loops of bungee that stretch around the T-bar to the centre tube (as G-NEAT is a converted mono, this is where the over-centre supports pivoted from). The bungee is threaded over the centre tube and the ends clamped together with little clamps (kindly supplied to me by Kevin Pilcher). The loop of bungee can then be stretched down and over the end of the T-bar. If the tension isn't quite right you can move the clamp and try again. The stripes on the bungee should be something like 1" apart at the right tension. Keep adding loops of bungee until you have enough and the result is "hard". The great advantage of this method is that you can re-tension individual loops without doing yourself an injury and even take more than half off without the thing collapsing. Kevin uses a variation of this method where he makes up larger loops that stretch from the T-bar, over the centre tube and back down to the T-bar. I tried that, but being weak, I found I just wasn't capable of pulling the bungee down to the T-bar. However, single loops between the centre tube and the T-bar are not too difficult to tension adequately. The disadvantages of my method (compared to Kevin's) are that you need twice as many clamps and the bungee has to be formed into a loop in place over the centre tube (actually, no big deal). The end result is "well hard" and much easier to maintain than the factory method. I hope this makes sense and is helpful. Regards, mark


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    Time: 03:10:51 PM PST US
    From: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> Gerry Try Aircraft Spruce, look under bungee cords. They are listed in different lengths. You will need to know the length from the top bar where you wrap the cord, to the bottom bar. In my Pitts the bungee cord loop was about half the distance between the two mounting lugs. It took a special tool to stretch the bungee cord far enough apart that it could be placed on its mounting lugs. Jim N398JB Gerry Holland wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > Can someone steer me towards the details of the single loops of Bungee to > replace the continuous Bungee system for Europa Nose Gear. > > My Nose gear is yet again gone 'soft' and would like to try this new > approach. > > Regards > > Gerry > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > Fuselage painted, Wings being painted, Flying surfaces painted > Airframe Wiring complete, Full Size Panel 70% done . > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. > Activity on Panel, Designing Heater Unit, Shoulder Width Mod completed. > > http://www.g-fizy.com > +44 7808 402404 > gnholland@onetel.com >


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    Time: 03:31:49 PM PST US
    From: "RICHARD IDDON" <riddon@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "RICHARD IDDON" <riddon@btinternet.com> Gerry, The article by Kevin Pilcher is in the latest Europa flyer. I copied the article from the forum archive and will send you a copy directly. NOTE!! Anyone trying this system should be aware that the measurements for the bungee are incorrect. The correct length is around 25 inches. I did contact Kevin about this and he confirmed the error for which he sends his apologies. I suggest you cut one about 26 inches initially and try it for size. You can shorten it fairly easily by slackening the rope clamp and pulling a little more bungee through until you get it tight enough. I found that his system of pulling the loops into place with a hook worked OK for the first couple of loops but I copied an idea given to me by Rick Morris to stretch the remainder into place. Fasten a bracket to the floor under the fuselage and use ratchet tie down straps to get enough tension. Works a treat once you have got it set up. Regards. Richard Iddon G-RIXS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gerry Holland Subject: Europa-List: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> Can someone steer me towards the details of the single loops of Bungee to replace the continuous Bungee system for Europa Nose Gear. My Nose gear is yet again gone 'soft' and would like to try this new approach. Regards Gerry Europa 384 G-FIZY


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    Time: 03:37:37 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Avionics question
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com> Paul, I had the same problem with my Lightspeed 25. I sent it to Lightspeed and they replaced the mic. That fixed it! Apparently the design allows some feed back depending on the setup in ones plane. I don't understand it but it now works. Call them, they were very helpful and had a fast turn around. Jerry Rehn N645XS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: Europa-List: Avionics question > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Hi all, > > I have been struggling with an issue which I have now been able to quantify. When I try and transmit ( IIMorrow GX60) I get an awful squeal in the headset. To trouble shoot I removed the intercom and wired my microphone and headset socket directly to the radio and it still squealed when trying to transmit. My headsets are LightSpeed 25k's > > I then tried a different set of headsets and it worked just fine (Telex 3500), tower reported a clear transmission. Just as a cross check I tried my Light Speed headsets on my Vertex handheld and they did the same.... made a squeal when trying to transmit. These headsets work perfectly in my Comanche which has a Signtronics intercom. > > It would seem that the problem is isolated to my Lightspeed headsets, any one have any suggestions ? > > > Paul > >


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    Time: 04:04:13 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com>
    Subject: Re: Not enough turbo boost
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com> Paul, my tubo experienced the same after a period of time and after I did some work on the air box. It drove me nuts trying to figure it out. Turns out I some how got the sensor that is mounted on the port carb that monitors the position of the throttle out of calibration. So the computer didn' "think" that the carb was at full open and wouldn't provide the boost. That is why I believe your not seeing 38- 40. To fix you must get the Toggle and software from Europa or Rotax and recalibrate the sensor. And no you don't manually adjust the sensor.You plug the toggle into a laptop and the turbo computer and use the software to readjust the sensor. Once I did this 5 minute operation my boost was back! Very neat fix. At the same time you can see exactly where all your % of throttle points are and mark them. Hope this works for you. Don't forget to watch your RPM after fix because you are surely at to fine a pitch. Jerry Rehn N645XS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Subject: Europa-List: Not enough turbo boost > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Hi All, > > I adjusted my propeller pitch today so I could get 5700 RPM for take off. The Airmaster propeller now seems to be working as it should, 5100 RPM in the cruise setting, 5300 in the Climb and 5700 in the take off setting. > > The problem is that the maximum boost I am seeing is 34" at 5700 RPM, I would have expected to see 38~40 inches. Does anyone have and ideas why I am not seeing full boost under a static run up. I was a cool day, around 50 f so I do not think it would be an air box over temperature issue. > > Paul > >


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    Time: 04:20:13 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Not enough turbo boost
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi Jerry, Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately I have done this already and it didn't fix the problem, mind you, its probably worth a try again.... Paul do not archive


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    Time: 04:44:39 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net> Just a little correction: Aircraft Spruce list "Shock Cord" Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 " Flying Free" 40 hours are behind me ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brown" <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alternative Trigear Bungee Fitment > --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> > > Gerry > > Try Aircraft Spruce, look under bungee cords. They are listed in different > lengths. You will need to know the length from the top bar where you wrap the > cord, to the bottom bar. > > In my Pitts the bungee cord loop was about half the distance between the two > mounting lugs. It took a special tool to stretch the bungee cord far enough > apart that it could be placed on its mounting lugs. > > Jim > N398JB > > Gerry Holland wrote: > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com> > > > > Can someone steer me towards the details of the single loops of Bungee to > > replace the continuous Bungee system for Europa Nose Gear. > > > > My Nose gear is yet again gone 'soft' and would like to try this new > > approach. > > > > Regards > > > > Gerry > > > > Europa 384 G-FIZY > > Trigear with Rotax 912 and Arplast CS Prop. > > Fuselage painted, Wings being painted, Flying surfaces painted > > Airframe Wiring complete, Full Size Panel 70% done . > > Includes Dynon EFIS, KMD 150, Icom A-200 and SL70 Transponder. AoA Fitted. > > Activity on Panel, Designing Heater Unit, Shoulder Width Mod completed. > > > > http://www.g-fizy.com > > +44 7808 402404 > > gnholland@onetel.com > > > >


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    Time: 06:30:20 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Re: Avionics question
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Jerry, Thanks for the tip, I'll contact them on Monday. Paul do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Avionics question > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jerry Rehn" <rehn@rockisland.com> > > Paul, I had the same problem with my Lightspeed 25. I sent it to Lightspeed > and they replaced the mic. That fixed it! Apparently the design allows some > feed back depending on the setup in ones plane. I don't understand it but it > now works. Call them, they were very helpful and had a fast turn around. > Jerry Rehn N645XS > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Europa-List: Avionics question > > > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have been struggling with an issue which I have now been able to > quantify. When I try and transmit ( IIMorrow GX60) I get an awful squeal in > the headset. To trouble shoot I removed the intercom and wired my > microphone and headset socket directly to the radio and it still squealed > when trying to transmit. My headsets are LightSpeed 25k's > > > > I then tried a different set of headsets and it worked just fine (Telex > 3500), tower reported a clear transmission. Just as a cross check I tried > my Light Speed headsets on my Vertex handheld and they did the same.... made > a squeal when trying to transmit. These headsets work perfectly in my > Comanche which has a Signtronics intercom. > > > > It would seem that the problem is isolated to my Lightspeed headsets, any > one have any suggestions ? > > > > > > Paul > > > > > >




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