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1. 12:22 AM - FW: First Flight G-IANI (G-IANI)
2. 02:06 AM - Re: FW: First Flight G-IANI (Gerry Holland)
3. 02:58 AM - Re: Autopilot (Alan R Haynes)
4. 04:58 AM - Firts Flight G-IANI (KARL HEINDL)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Autopilot (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com)
6. 07:36 AM - Fuel systerm tidbits - continued (John & Paddy Wigney)
7. 10:13 AM - Re: Top On (ivor.phillips)
8. 12:05 PM - Re: Autopilot (Duncan McFadyean)
9. 12:21 PM - Tenn Fly In (James Puglise)
10. 12:31 PM - Discovery Wings Series (James Puglise)
11. 12:59 PM - Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd (P.A.D.Clarke)
12. 01:42 PM - Out of the Boat (Alan Stills)
13. 01:49 PM - Re: europa club subscriptions running out (hedley brown)
14. 02:47 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd (R.C.Harrison)
15. 03:03 PM - Re: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd (Duncan McFadyean)
16. 03:16 PM - Re: FW: First Flight G-IANI (Brian Davies)
17. 03:20 PM - Re: Autopilot (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com)
18. 11:23 PM - Re: Autopilot (Duncan McFadyean)
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| Subject: | FW: First Flight G-IANI |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Apologies if you got this already but my outgoing mail seems to be having a
problem at my ISP
Hi all - it's big smile time!
G-IANI (Kit 505, Trigear, 914, Airmaster 332, weight 910lbs) flew for the
first time at Blackbushe Airport at 13.45 on Thursday 20th May 2004. In the
very capable hands of Pete Jeffers she performed two takeoffs and landings
with a total time of just under 1 hour. Weather was high overcast, about 18
Celsius, fairly strong cross wind at times.
She flies nicely but may need just a touch of rudder trim. She stalls
straight and level at the correct speeds with a nice little buffet before
the stall. By pure luck the (factory option) stall warner seems to be set
perfectly. Pitch trim is OK but could be a bit more positive (I will talk
to Andy).
Engine is smooth but static RPM at full throttle is lowish so the fine pitch
stop needs to be reduced just a little. Ts &Ps are mostly OK but water
temperature is high in a full power climb (I believe this is normal at
first).
Everything seems to work but the radio (Apollo SL40) is annoying as we are
hearing too much hiss. Hopefully this will be solved when I manage to
master its multiple digital settings. Fortunately Pete is used to the Grand
Rapids EIS so I think we have mastered its digitals.
Build time was almost exactly three years and 2,200 person hours of workshop
time. This includes everything including eight mods (four factory and four
own design including centre tunnel and moving the rudder pedals), building
the panel and wiring (my choice), final filling and painting (not my choice)
and upholstery (including debugging and documenting the Europa Kit).
My thanks go to Irene, my wife and co-builder, Raymond Beattie (my
brother-in-law) who has the filling and painting skills I cannot aspire to.
Many thanks also to all at the Europa Factory and the Europa Club committee,
members and e-mail contributors who have been a source of inspiration,
support and great knowledge.
When can I start on the next one?
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
1 hour total time
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: FW: First Flight G-IANI |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gerry Holland <gnholland@onetel.com>
Ian Hi1
> Hi all - it's big smile time!
WELL DONE!!
Regards
Gerry
do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan R Haynes" <alan_haynes@dsl.pipex.com>
Folks,
I have a question on this theme.
I have a copy of the approved PFA mod for the Navaid installation. However,
I have chosen the Digitrak servo having been influenced by some of the
e-mail strings over the last year or so. The servo looks well made but I
haven't tested it yet. My intention is to install the digitrak servo by
following the method approved for the Navaid. Has anyone in the UK done this
already? Does this require a full PFA mod application?
Alan Haynes
Kit no 467
XS Tri Gear
Wings assembled but not closed out. Flying surfaces done
Cockpit module complete but not installed.
That's about it so far!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> >>How is the PFA handling this problem?<<
>
> On a case-by-case basis. Meaning that when one unit has been installed in
> the first aircraft and approved, all other units that are installed to
other
> aircraft in the same way will be approved automatically (subject to
> satisfactory inspection etc).
>
> Duncan McF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karel Vranken" <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karel Vranken"
> <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Hi All,
> > When Trutrak presented the Digitrak at Oshkosh 2002 I was with the
> > subscribers because at that moment the cockpit module laid upside down
and
> > it was easy to fix the mounting plate under the starboard seat and to
fix
> > the lever at the aileron torque tube.
> > Now the french inspector found that this is a modification of the
original
> > Europa they accepted as kitplane. What is the difference between a
> > modification and an equipement?
> > The Digitrak isn't TSOD and so far has no reference technical code (JAR)
> and
> > therefore can't be accepted as stated in their aircraft modification
form.
> > My question to every lucky pilot flying with the Digitrak or Navaid is
> where
> > can I get an approval?
> > How is the PFA handling this problem?
> > Any answer is welcome.
> > Karel Vranken Belgium
> > # 447 F-PKRL XS monowheel 912 ULS Airmaster CS finishing paintings.
> >
> > Test een digitale camera 14 dagen gratis
> > http://opproef.msn.be/product/product.html?nr=13
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Firts Flight G-IANI |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Many congratulations Ian and Irene, and nice to get such a full report. I was beginning
to wonder whether I had missed your first flight announcement.
I also had to install a tiny trim tab on the rudder. My SL40 is working fine, without
any modifications.
Many happy flights, Karl
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--> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
In a message dated 22/05/04 10:59:24 GMT Standard Time,
alan_haynes@dsl.pipex.com writes:
> I have a copy of the approved PFA mod for the Navaid installation. However,
> I have chosen the Digitrak servo having been influenced by some of the
> e-mail strings over the last year or so. The servo looks well made but I
> haven't tested it yet. My intention is to install the digitrak servo by
> following the method approved for the Navaid. Has anyone in the UK done this
> already? Does this require a full PFA mod application?
>
Alan
The Digitrak installation does require formal PFA mod approval, but all you
need to do is to highlight the areas in which your installation will differ
from the Navaid.
If you like, I could fax or email you copies of the two letters I wrote to
get my Digitrak
approved.
Even though I kept the size of the access holes in the seat the same as for
the
Navaid, but merely moved them forward a bit, the PFA did ask for a letter of
no
technical objection from Europa. Andy kindly provided this letter, but
pointed out that
the access holes would require reinforcement to at least the standard
described in the
Europa manual. He also pointed out that there are 3 plies of glasscloth in
the thigh
support area.
Regards
John Heykoop
XS Mono G-JHKP. Cockpit module bonded in. Rudder pedals installed. Tailwheel
spring installed. Top clecoed on. Flap drive pins and wing fitting next.
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| Subject: | Fuel systerm tidbits - continued |
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@worldnet.att.net>
A further piece of fuel system trivia may be of interest.
I substituted the kit supplied fuel filters with an Andair gascolator
during my initial build. The Andair is mounted adjacent to the fuel pump
and has performed satisfactorily. I see a minimal amount of trash during
routine maintenance checks.
However, I did have a minor problem. I installed water drains from the
fuel tank as per the factory option and I also fitted a similar water
drain from the Andair bowl. Each of these goes to individual CAV-110
drain valves on the lower fuselage. I have found that fine trash from
the Andair collects on the face of the drain valve 'O' ring and causes a
very slow weep which has left a stain on the paintwork. The fix has been
to put one of the original cartridge filters between the Andair bowl and
the drain valve. No problems now - no drips.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
trial fit top and wings,Undercarriage fitted,playing with tie bar
----- Original Message ----- . I used 280 grams.
>
> So, is that like a half a container, or what? Never was too good on the
> grams thingy... :)
>
> Its nearly a 1/3 of a can of Araldite 420a If you are using the 1.0KG can
do not archive
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
John.
How did you arrange for the warning light?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JohnDHeykoop@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot
> --> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 22/05/04 10:59:24 GMT Standard Time,
> alan_haynes@dsl.pipex.com writes:
>
> > I have a copy of the approved PFA mod for the Navaid installation.
However,
> > I have chosen the Digitrak servo having been influenced by some of the
> > e-mail strings over the last year or so. The servo looks well made but I
> > haven't tested it yet. My intention is to install the digitrak servo by
> > following the method approved for the Navaid. Has anyone in the UK done
this
> > already? Does this require a full PFA mod application?
> >
> Alan
>
> The Digitrak installation does require formal PFA mod approval, but all
you
> need to do is to highlight the areas in which your installation will
differ
> from the Navaid.
> If you like, I could fax or email you copies of the two letters I wrote to
> get my Digitrak
> approved.
>
> Even though I kept the size of the access holes in the seat the same as
for
> the
> Navaid, but merely moved them forward a bit, the PFA did ask for a letter
of
> no
> technical objection from Europa. Andy kindly provided this letter, but
> pointed out that
> the access holes would require reinforcement to at least the standard
> described in the
> Europa manual. He also pointed out that there are 3 plies of glasscloth
in
> the thigh
> support area.
>
> Regards
>
> John Heykoop
> XS Mono G-JHKP. Cockpit module bonded in. Rudder pedals installed.
Tailwheel
> spring installed. Top clecoed on. Flap drive pins and wing fitting next.
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "James Puglise" <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
I deleted the information about the June fly in in Tenn. Where is it, and what
commercial airports are near? It looks like we will need to come commercial
unless someone in FL has a couple of seats open. We are anxious to go, sounds
like a great time!
Jim and Lynne Puglise, N283MG
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| Subject: | Discovery Wings Series |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "James Puglise" <jimpuglise@comcast.net>
As many of you may recall, the Discovery Wings channel did a whole series on building
a Eurpoa monowheel. I saw a segment this morning where he is doing a tri-gear.
The series is listed in the guide as being a Kit Fox, but the airplane
he is building does not look like any Kit Fox I have ever seen.
Does anyone know if the tape segment that contains the actual building can be obtained?
It would be a great help as an overview before you start any major steps.
The segment this morning was the landing gear, and I wish I had seen it
before I did mine.
Jim, N283MG
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| Subject: | Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
Anyone going to the PFA fly-in at Bembridge on Su 23rd ?
Cheers, Paddy Clarke
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Stills" <astills785@earthlink.net>
Well, the top is finally on...took approximately 3.5 Hrs with 2 of us working on
it (only about 1 hr to actually redux and screw it down). Had to move a little
faster towards the end as it's about 92 Deg F (33C) here in Phoenix with approximately
11% Humidity and it was starting to set up fast.Used 324 grams of
redux and removed 91 grams as I cleaned up the sides. Used 97 self tapping screws.
No more boat in the workshop.
Al Stills
A095
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| Subject: | Re: europa club subscriptions running out |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "hedley brown" <hedley@hedleybrown.flyer.co.uk>
Very long!...H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Subject: Europa-List: europa club subscriptions running out
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
>
> Thanks to those who have responded to my recent
> pleas for outstanding Europa Club subscriptions.
> I'm sad to say there's still a long list of folk
> who haven't renewed, and it appears below!
>
> If don't hear from these people by 1st June,
> their membership will lapse and they won't
> receive the June issue of the Europa Flyer. This
> is not meant to shame people into paying up, just
> to jog your memory again - I know we're all very
> busy people. The names are in alphabetical order
> by surname for easy reference.
>
> If your name is on the list, and you have decided
> NOT to renew, I'd appreciate a quick note to
> <memsec@europaclub.org.uk> saying so. (It will
> save me the work, and the Club the cost, of
> writing a letter to you later.) And, it would
> help the Club to serve its members better if you
> could say why you prefer not to continue in
> membership. F'rinstance: epoxy allergy stopped
> building, lost medical stopped flying,
> aircraft/kit sold, Europa Club didn't offer what
> I wanted (which was .....) etc, etc.
>
> Lyle Antieau
> Colin Arkle
> Kenneth Armstrong
> Mike Ashfield
> Sarah Attubato
> Michel Auvray
> Bernhard Bachmann
> Karim Bachu
> Jim Barber
> Roger Barton
> Bill Bealing
> Dave Bennett
> David Bligh
> David Bowie
> Ian Brookes
> Alan Burrows
> Garry Carter
> Jag Chaggar
> Simon Collins
> Leslie Cooper
> Roger Cullum
> Robert Davies
> Michael Dawson
> Alan Day
> Dave DeFord
> Edith Dolder
> Mike Dolphin
> Patrick Farrell
> Fergus Flynn
> Neil France
> Dennis Gerow
> David Glauser
> Jeff Goedhard
> Jim Graham
> Nigel Graham
> Michael Grass
> Ivor Griffith
> Jim Gunnlaugson
> Donald Heath
> Malcolm Hendra
> Bev Hill
> Gerry Holland
> Michael Howe
> Andrew Jarvis
> Paul Johnson
> Paul Kennard
> John Kilian
> Richard Lamprey
> Gavin Lee
> Roger Lloyd
> Kowie Lombard
> Dave Martin
> Miles McCallum
> Barry McHugh
> Mike Midderigh
> Keith Middlemass
> Simon Miles
> Geoff Millard
> Rick Morris
> Zef Mumtaz-Ahmad
> Simon Nash
> Colin Noakes
> Padhraic O'Conghaile
> Carl Pattinson
> Tam Pho
> Patrick Pons
> Chuck Popenoe
> Kevin Pownall
> Jim Punter
> David Qualls
> Ira Rampil
> Brian Rauchfuss
> Brian Robshaw
> Jim Roseby
> Michael Rowland
> Martin Sambrook
> Emonn Sheridan
> Dennis Shupe
> Hans Siedsma
> Tom Sinclair
> David Skill
> Tony Smyth
> Doug Steven
> Martin Stevens
> Phil Tait
> John Tattersdill
> Bruce Thackray
> Mike Toft
> John Walsh
> Thomas Walt
> Campbell Walters
> Francis Warlomont
> Tony Wickens
> John Wighton
> Jim Wixson
> Peter Wood
> Craig Wright
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
Hi! Paddy.
Unfortunately I already decided to go the other way to Cark and hesitated to
call it a Drop of the Hat day being a Sunday !
However I had originally expected to go to the PFA Rally at Perth since my
wall chart indicated it to be this weekend! It is now next weekend, don't
know when it was changed but I now have the first two days of it
"earmarked".
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
----- Original Message -----
From: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke"
<paddyclarke@lineone.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Anyone going to the PFA fly-in at Bembridge on Su 23rd ?
> Cheers, Paddy Clarke
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Yes!
Probably arriving at noon. Taking bike for off-piste excursion.
Duncan McF
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "P.A.D.Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Drop of the Hat Sun 23rd
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "P.A.D.Clarke"
<paddyclarke@lineone.net>
>
> Hi All,
> Anyone going to the PFA fly-in at Bembridge on Su 23rd ?
> Cheers, Paddy Clarke
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: First Flight G-IANI |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
Congratulations Ian,
Glad to hear you finally made it.
Brian
----- Original Message -----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Europa-List: FW: First Flight G-IANI
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
>
> Apologies if you got this already but my outgoing mail seems to be having
a
> problem at my ISP
>
> Hi all - it's big smile time!
>
> G-IANI (Kit 505, Trigear, 914, Airmaster 332, weight 910lbs) flew for the
> first time at Blackbushe Airport at 13.45 on Thursday 20th May 2004. In
the
> very capable hands of Pete Jeffers she performed two takeoffs and landings
> with a total time of just under 1 hour. Weather was high overcast, about
18
> Celsius, fairly strong cross wind at times.
>
> She flies nicely but may need just a touch of rudder trim. She stalls
> straight and level at the correct speeds with a nice little buffet before
> the stall. By pure luck the (factory option) stall warner seems to be set
> perfectly. Pitch trim is OK but could be a bit more positive (I will talk
> to Andy).
>
> Engine is smooth but static RPM at full throttle is lowish so the fine
pitch
> stop needs to be reduced just a little. Ts &Ps are mostly OK but water
> temperature is high in a full power climb (I believe this is normal at
> first).
>
> Everything seems to work but the radio (Apollo SL40) is annoying as we are
> hearing too much hiss. Hopefully this will be solved when I manage to
> master its multiple digital settings. Fortunately Pete is used to the
Grand
> Rapids EIS so I think we have mastered its digitals.
>
> Build time was almost exactly three years and 2,200 person hours of
workshop
> time. This includes everything including eight mods (four factory and
four
> own design including centre tunnel and moving the rudder pedals), building
> the panel and wiring (my choice), final filling and painting (not my
choice)
> and upholstery (including debugging and documenting the Europa Kit).
>
> My thanks go to Irene, my wife and co-builder, Raymond Beattie (my
> brother-in-law) who has the filling and painting skills I cannot aspire
to.
> Many thanks also to all at the Europa Factory and the Europa Club
committee,
> members and e-mail contributors who have been a source of inspiration,
> support and great knowledge.
>
> When can I start on the next one?
>
> Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
> 1 hour total time
> e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
In a message dated 22/05/04 20:06:49 GMT Standard Time,
ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk writes:
> How did you arrange for the warning light?
>
Duncan
I asked TruTrak to provide me with a schematic. Don't know if it works, for I
have not done my wiring yet. I'll send you an email off forum attaching the
schematic as a PDF file.
Regards
John
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Makes more sense than the last version published, which seemed to cause the
servo amp. to fail.
Not that a light is needed anyway; the LED display is sunlight readable and
does a good job of informing on A/P status.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JohnDHeykoop@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot
> --> Europa-List message posted by: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 22/05/04 20:06:49 GMT Standard Time,
> ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
> > How did you arrange for the warning light?
> >
> Duncan
> I asked TruTrak to provide me with a schematic. Don't know if it works,
for I
> have not done my wiring yet. I'll send you an email off forum attaching
the
> schematic as a PDF file.
> Regards
> John
>
>
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